(02-21-2015 01:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/ct...story.html

Quote:A Crystal Lake South High School teacher has been placed on leave after his arrest in a prostitution sting, according to school and police officials.

Science teacher Brian Akers, 46, of Woodstock, was among eight men who were arrested Tuesday by Rockford police after the men allegedly responded to fictitious online prostitution ads that were posted as part of a police sting operation, Rockford authorities said in a news release.

Akers was charged with solicitation of a sexual act, police said.

Quote:Akers was placed on paid leave "pending further investigation," the principal said.

The idea that adults can't contract with each other for services in which do not violate the principle of non aggression?.... is fundamentally abhorrent and is a direct slap in the face of freedom.

(02-22-2015 06:26 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  It may be a misdemeanor, but the type of misdemeanor it is and the position he held is why he should lose his job over this.

I hate to be a broken record but when you work in a position of public trust you simply cannot do anything that potentially violates that trust and keep your job. Typically that means you will be looking for a job if you commit any vice crimes, drug crimes, or anything worse than simple assault. In some cases it includes DUI and even something as simple as shoplifting charges. I sat on a disciplinary review board once where a 10 year veteran of the fire service lost his job because of a petit larceny charge because the last thing you want to have to explain to the taxpayers is why you have a thief in a position where they can go in and out of people's houses and have access to their personal belongings.

When you take one of these jobs you are made aware that this isn't like working in the private sector or some other public sector jobs where you are afforded the leniency that other professions would have in a case like this. You are held to a higher standard because the position you hold demands it. In this case it depends on how Illinois code of law is written as well. In some states this charge, if convicted, will land you on the sex offender list and most states have laws prohibiting registered sex offenders from working anywhere in a school system.

It should not be a crime of any type and is no one's fcking business.

(02-21-2015 04:47 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 04:39 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 01:54 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/ct...story.html

Quote:A Crystal Lake South High School teacher has been placed on leave after his arrest in a prostitution sting, according to school and police officials.

Science teacher Brian Akers, 46, of Woodstock, was among eight men who were arrested Tuesday by Rockford police after the men allegedly responded to fictitious online prostitution ads that were posted as part of a police sting operation, Rockford authorities said in a news release.

Akers was charged with solicitation of a sexual act, police said.

Quote:Akers was placed on paid leave "pending further investigation," the principal said.

Why didn't they post the occupations of the other 7 men?

Evidently they didn't have positions of public trust like Akers.

I don't know about you but I don't really care if in his off-time my mechanic is picking up hookers. Different story when you are talking about the person who is in charge of my kids for a significant portion of their day.

Why? Why should you care if a teacher picks up hookers on his spare time?

(02-22-2015 12:27 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-22-2015 12:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 11:41 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 11:20 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 10:10 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  But why is a crime with a sex theme being held to a higher standard then any other crime when it comes to teachers?

It's not necessarily, although some specific crimes directly apply to the safety of kids.

The reason the teacher can go pick up a girl for a one night stand and not get fired is because that is perfectly legal.

The reason a teacher can not pick up a hooker, or have sex with a dalmatian, and keep their job is because those are sex crimes, and certain jobs are held to a higher standard for public safety. If you are a teacher, you cant be a pedophile.

Some people can get arrested for a DUI and keep their jobs. But if your job is to drive kids in a bus, you will lose your job.

Certain jobs have these types of higher standard clauses built in for non-crimes. For instance, if I were the spokesperson for a product, the company may have a standards clause for termination if I were to send out a tweet that said fudge packers are the scourge of the earth. While that is perfectly legal for me to say, it could also be a fireable offense.

Of course you cant be a teach if youre a pedophile. But having sex with a consenting adult doesn't make you a pedophile or at risk of becoming one.

Anybody who who drives for a living and gets a DUI will lose their job, no matter what they drive be it kids or pizzas.

I don't know anything about the hiring process for teachers, but if he did sign some contract with a moral clause or something similar then I have no problem with him being canned, because he agreed to those standards being part of the job. But if he didn't sign anything of the sort, then this misdemeanor (I believe it usually falls under that) should be treated like any other misdemeanor.

At the end of the day he was just a dude who wanted to get laid and wanted to skip the bs that most of us our willing to put ourselves through to get some, he's not a menace to society or a danger to be around. Honestly, I don't know how people get busted for solicitation these days anyways. Most escorts will say flat out you are paying for their time, and what ever occurs during that time is between two consenting adults, and if you even mention sex for money they'll cut contact with you.

You are having an issue separating "sex with a consenting adult" and "illegal sex".

I understand your point about the legality of prostitution. But that is irrelevant. Some people have a problem with sex with minors being illegal. And there you have the issue. If you are in a position of having untethered and unsupervised control over kids, you have to hold yourself to a standard that says I will not violate anyone's trust with them.

jerry lee lewis is a happy man the internutz wasn't around......they'd a hung AND burned his nutz along with feeding the leftovers to the piggies.....

If you dont believe Jerry Lee Lewis took a massive hit for what he did, you dont know history.

(02-22-2015 11:37 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-22-2015 12:27 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(02-22-2015 12:16 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 11:41 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(02-21-2015 11:20 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  It's not necessarily, although some specific crimes directly apply to the safety of kids.

The reason the teacher can go pick up a girl for a one night stand and not get fired is because that is perfectly legal.

The reason a teacher can not pick up a hooker, or have sex with a dalmatian, and keep their job is because those are sex crimes, and certain jobs are held to a higher standard for public safety. If you are a teacher, you cant be a pedophile.

Some people can get arrested for a DUI and keep their jobs. But if your job is to drive kids in a bus, you will lose your job.

Certain jobs have these types of higher standard clauses built in for non-crimes. For instance, if I were the spokesperson for a product, the company may have a standards clause for termination if I were to send out a tweet that said fudge packers are the scourge of the earth. While that is perfectly legal for me to say, it could also be a fireable offense.

Of course you cant be a teach if youre a pedophile. But having sex with a consenting adult doesn't make you a pedophile or at risk of becoming one.

Anybody who who drives for a living and gets a DUI will lose their job, no matter what they drive be it kids or pizzas.

I don't know anything about the hiring process for teachers, but if he did sign some contract with a moral clause or something similar then I have no problem with him being canned, because he agreed to those standards being part of the job. But if he didn't sign anything of the sort, then this misdemeanor (I believe it usually falls under that) should be treated like any other misdemeanor.

At the end of the day he was just a dude who wanted to get laid and wanted to skip the bs that most of us our willing to put ourselves through to get some, he's not a menace to society or a danger to be around. Honestly, I don't know how people get busted for solicitation these days anyways. Most escorts will say flat out you are paying for their time, and what ever occurs during that time is between two consenting adults, and if you even mention sex for money they'll cut contact with you.

You are having an issue separating "sex with a consenting adult" and "illegal sex".

I understand your point about the legality of prostitution. But that is irrelevant. Some people have a problem with sex with minors being illegal. And there you have the issue. If you are in a position of having untethered and unsupervised control over kids, you have to hold yourself to a standard that says I will not violate anyone's trust with them.

jerry lee lewis is a happy man the internutz wasn't around......they'd a hung AND burned his nutz along with feeding the leftovers to the piggies.....

If you dont believe Jerry Lee Lewis took a massive hit for what he did, you dont know history.

of course he did....why do you think I came up with the reference.....the point was to imagine how it would've gone down in the internutz era....same applies to hey-zues