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I keep hearing how great our recruiting has been, but i'm not sure I can get on board with that yet.

Gary, Estime, Sims, Toews are our HS recruits. Toews is very good, Sims has come on, Estime has been ok, and Gary...well. No big men out of HS we've seen on the floor yet.

Transfers Cylla, Kalina, O'Connell, Gadsden is our best group, with Kalina a bust.

And the rest of the HS recruits and transfers are unknown at this level.

Linssen, Skaggs, Okaru, Phillips, Dood, Boggs, Tolefree, Bowden...who knows?

Dodd is the only one I feel 100% confident will pan out. They could ALL be players, but let's wait and see them on the court before declaring our recruiting is top notch.
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(07-27-2019 03:58 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I keep hearing how great our recruiting has been, but i'm not sure I can get on board with that yet.

Gary, Estime, Sims, Toews are our HS recruits. Toews is very good, Sims has come on, Estime has been ok, and Gary...well. No big men out of HS we've seen on the floor yet.

Transfers Cylla, Kalina, O'Connell, Gadsden is our best group, with Kalina a bust.

And the rest of the HS recruits and transfers are unknown at this level.

Linssen, Skaggs, Okaru, Phillips, Dood, Boggs, Tolefree, Bowden...who knows?

Dodd is the only one I feel 100% confident will pan out. They could ALL be players, but let's wait and see them on the court before declaring our recruiting is top notch.

Never said anything about it being top notch, but it has been good. Good enough to win more games than have been won. My point being McGrath and this staff clearly know what they’re doing on the recruiting trail, I can’t say the same for the on-court issues. Hopefully that will change this season, time will tell.
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(07-27-2019 04:14 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 03:58 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I keep hearing how great our recruiting has been, but i'm not sure I can get on board with that yet.

Gary, Estime, Sims, Toews are our HS recruits. Toews is very good, Sims has come on, Estime has been ok, and Gary...well. No big men out of HS we've seen on the floor yet.

Transfers Cylla, Kalina, O'Connell, Gadsden is our best group, with Kalina a bust.

And the rest of the HS recruits and transfers are unknown at this level.

Linssen, Skaggs, Okaru, Phillips, Dood, Boggs, Tolefree, Bowden...who knows?

Dodd is the only one I feel 100% confident will pan out. They could ALL be players, but let's wait and see them on the court before declaring our recruiting is top notch.

Never said anything about it being top notch, but it has been good. Good enough to win more games than have been won. My point being McGrath and this staff clearly know what they’re doing on the recruiting trail, I can’t say the same for the on-court issues. Hopefully that will change this season, time will tell.

Agree. Nobody has said anything about it being top shelf or top notch, but it has been good enough not to complain about or throw darts at. Other areas of this administration... darts are deserved.


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(07-27-2019 06:49 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 04:14 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 03:58 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I keep hearing how great our recruiting has been, but i'm not sure I can get on board with that yet.

Gary, Estime, Sims, Toews are our HS recruits. Toews is very good, Sims has come on, Estime has been ok, and Gary...well. No big men out of HS we've seen on the floor yet.

Transfers Cylla, Kalina, O'Connell, Gadsden is our best group, with Kalina a bust.

And the rest of the HS recruits and transfers are unknown at this level.

Linssen, Skaggs, Okaru, Phillips, Dood, Boggs, Tolefree, Bowden...who knows?

Dodd is the only one I feel 100% confident will pan out. They could ALL be players, but let's wait and see them on the court before declaring our recruiting is top notch.

Never said anything about it being top notch, but it has been good. Good enough to win more games than have been won. My point being McGrath and this staff clearly know what they’re doing on the recruiting trail, I can’t say the same for the on-court issues. Hopefully that will change this season, time will tell.

Agree. Nobody has said anything about it being top shelf or top notch, but it has been good enough not to complain about or throw darts at. Other areas of this administration... darts are deserved.


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Recruiting is solid for a mid-major. We are way deeper than last year, with better athletes. Clearly an eye on playing faster on both ends which is a must for UNCW to have success. They can possibly thrive with a Linssen/Bowen combination, however, if Bowen is out then I see a 'crack in the boat' and the lack of a Plan B in recruiting becomes an issue.

I want to be positive about this season. The players they brought in is the first step but what matters most is substantial improvement defensively vs 3pt shooting and the ability to close out games with good preparation and in-game adjustments.
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(07-28-2019 09:35 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 06:49 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 04:14 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-27-2019 03:58 PM)82hawk Wrote:  I keep hearing how great our recruiting has been, but i'm not sure I can get on board with that yet.

Gary, Estime, Sims, Toews are our HS recruits. Toews is very good, Sims has come on, Estime has been ok, and Gary...well. No big men out of HS we've seen on the floor yet.

Transfers Cylla, Kalina, O'Connell, Gadsden is our best group, with Kalina a bust.

And the rest of the HS recruits and transfers are unknown at this level.

Linssen, Skaggs, Okaru, Phillips, Dood, Boggs, Tolefree, Bowden...who knows?

Dodd is the only one I feel 100% confident will pan out. They could ALL be players, but let's wait and see them on the court before declaring our recruiting is top notch.

Never said anything about it being top notch, but it has been good. Good enough to win more games than have been won. My point being McGrath and this staff clearly know what they’re doing on the recruiting trail, I can’t say the same for the on-court issues. Hopefully that will change this season, time will tell.

Agree. Nobody has said anything about it being top shelf or top notch, but it has been good enough not to complain about or throw darts at. Other areas of this administration... darts are deserved.


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Recruiting is solid for a mid-major. We are way deeper than last year, with better athletes. Clearly an eye on playing faster on both ends which is a must for UNCW to have success. They can possibly thrive with a Linssen/Bowen combination, however, if Bowen is out then I see a 'crack in the boat' and the lack of a Plan B in recruiting becomes an issue.

I want to be positive about this season. The players they brought in is the first step but what matters most is substantial improvement defensively vs 3pt shooting and the ability to close out games with good preparation and in-game adjustments.
We can only hope he intends to play faster, this team certainly is built that way. But, what makes me a bit uneasy, as the previous teams clearly played better that way and he refused to switch. I agree with you about having no backup plan. Just hoping Bowen comes though, we need him!
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Bowen MAY fill a spot with 6'8" height, but how good will he be in the CAA? He wasn't a regular starter on a DII team and averaged 6 points and 4 rebounds against DII competition. Seems like we're putting a lot of emphasis on an iffy prospect. Boggs could be just as good for all we know right now. I know comparing to Flemmings isn't fair, but Chris came on board as a power house DII player.
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(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Bowen MAY fill a spot with 6'8" height, but how good will he be in the CAA? He wasn't a regular starter on a DII team and averaged 6 points and 4 rebounds against DII competition. Seems like we're putting a lot of emphasis on an iffy prospect. Boggs could be just as good for all we know right now. I know comparing to Flemmings isn't fair, but Chris came on board as a power house DII player.
True. But having Bowen is better than 'NO Bowen' and no other 5 on the horizon at this juncture.
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(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Bowen MAY fill a spot with 6'8" height, but how good will he be in the CAA? He wasn't a regular starter on a DII team and averaged 6 points and 4 rebounds against DII competition. Seems like we're putting a lot of emphasis on an iffy prospect. Boggs could be just as good for all we know right now. I know comparing to Flemmings isn't fair, but Chris came on board as a power house DII player.

If I may help you here with a comp. It's pretty unusual, the only comp I can think of a bench/role player in D2 transferring up played for us. He was a 6-8, 220lb big that transfered from Winston Salem State where he had only averaged 7.6ppg and 3.7rpg in 14mpg for a 21-6 team in one season there. Pretty similar size and stats.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/pla...ege-1.html

88 games 48 starts 4.6ppg, 3.9rpg in 17.1mpg, 14.4 PER, +3.0 Net Rating. He wasn't a bad player, we actually won with him on the court.

He had a pretty accomplished prep career and ODU and Xavier had offered reportedly, though I don't know how true that was but he did average 25ppg 10rpg at Mt Zion but that may not have been the prep team and just their varsity level.

EDIT: Bowen played 23 minutes a game I see, maybe not quite as productive Per minutes. Similar team records although I don't know how that equates in D2 with their conferences though. I would imagine WSS was in a worse conference?
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The only numbers that matter are his length,vertical,and speed.
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(07-29-2019 12:42 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  The only numbers that matter are his length,vertical,and speed.

Really? I can think of quite a few guys that ticked those boxes over the last 10 years that really didn't amount to anything at UNCW. There is more to it than just that
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(07-29-2019 01:20 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 12:42 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  The only numbers that matter are his length,vertical,and speed.

Really? I can't think of quite a few guys that ticked those boxes over the last 10 years that really didn't amount to anything at UNCW. There is more to it than just that

Andrew Wiggins comes to my mind as the poster child. Elite athleticism and size for his position and literally translates to almost nothing tangible or positive with it on a basketball court when you look at rebounds, blocks, steals, assist etc they are all near the bottom percentile per minute for his position.
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(07-29-2019 11:11 AM)HAWKING Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 10:51 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Bowen MAY fill a spot with 6'8" height, but how good will he be in the CAA? He wasn't a regular starter on a DII team and averaged 6 points and 4 rebounds against DII competition. Seems like we're putting a lot of emphasis on an iffy prospect. Boggs could be just as good for all we know right now. I know comparing to Flemmings isn't fair, but Chris came on board as a power house DII player.
True. But having Bowen is better than 'NO Bowen' and no other 5 on the horizon at this juncture.

A "5"? 6'8" under 200 lbs.?
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Bowen has a higher ceiling than is being projected up here due to his athleticism. Dude has some major hops for someone who is 6'8"... He could come in and see 20-25 minutes of PT right away due to his ability to protect them rim which is something UNCW hasn't had since Cedrick Williams. He also was a solid rebounder on the D2 level. Someone on this thread have some inside info from the Belmont Abbey source saying they saw Bowen as their best player going forward. Truthfully, I think Bowen could benefit from a redshirt year to bulk up some under Ben Fleming but unfortunately we really need him to be eligible right away.
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(07-29-2019 02:12 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Bowen has a higher ceiling than is being projected up here due to his athleticism. Dude has some major hops for someone who is 6'8"... He could come in and see 20-25 minutes of PT right away due to his ability to protect them rim which is something UNCW hasn't had since Cedrick Williams. He also was a solid rebounder on the D2 level. Someone on this thread have some inside info from the Belmont Abbey source saying they saw Bowen as their best player going forward. Truthfully, I think Bowen could benefit from a redshirt year to bulk up some under Ben Fleming but unfortunately we really need him to be eligible right away.

Not doubting the possibilities, but we are in the same position we have been in for awhile. More unknowns than knowns following some pretty bad seasons. Maybe he'll pan out, maybe he won't.....
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(07-29-2019 02:15 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:12 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Bowen has a higher ceiling than is being projected up here due to his athleticism. Dude has some major hops for someone who is 6'8"... He could come in and see 20-25 minutes of PT right away due to his ability to protect them rim which is something UNCW hasn't had since Cedrick Williams. He also was a solid rebounder on the D2 level. Someone on this thread have some inside info from the Belmont Abbey source saying they saw Bowen as their best player going forward. Truthfully, I think Bowen could benefit from a redshirt year to bulk up some under Ben Fleming but unfortunately we really need him to be eligible right away.

Not doubting the possibilities, but we are in the same position we have been in for awhile. More unknowns than knowns following some pretty bad seasons. Maybe he'll pan out, maybe he won't.....

I agree... We're not in a great position, but I'm willing to give this roster a chance if McGrath is willing to run a system that fits this team.
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(07-29-2019 02:23 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:15 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:12 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Bowen has a higher ceiling than is being projected up here due to his athleticism. Dude has some major hops for someone who is 6'8"... He could come in and see 20-25 minutes of PT right away due to his ability to protect them rim which is something UNCW hasn't had since Cedrick Williams. He also was a solid rebounder on the D2 level. Someone on this thread have some inside info from the Belmont Abbey source saying they saw Bowen as their best player going forward. Truthfully, I think Bowen could benefit from a redshirt year to bulk up some under Ben Fleming but unfortunately we really need him to be eligible right away.

Not doubting the possibilities, but we are in the same position we have been in for awhile. More unknowns than knowns following some pretty bad seasons. Maybe he'll pan out, maybe he won't.....

I agree... We're not in a great position, but I'm willing to give this roster a chance if McGrath is willing to run a system that fits this team.
AS am I, but i have severe doubts in the last part of your sentence
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(07-29-2019 02:26 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:23 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:15 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:12 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Bowen has a higher ceiling than is being projected up here due to his athleticism. Dude has some major hops for someone who is 6'8"... He could come in and see 20-25 minutes of PT right away due to his ability to protect them rim which is something UNCW hasn't had since Cedrick Williams. He also was a solid rebounder on the D2 level. Someone on this thread have some inside info from the Belmont Abbey source saying they saw Bowen as their best player going forward. Truthfully, I think Bowen could benefit from a redshirt year to bulk up some under Ben Fleming but unfortunately we really need him to be eligible right away.

Not doubting the possibilities, but we are in the same position we have been in for awhile. More unknowns than knowns following some pretty bad seasons. Maybe he'll pan out, maybe he won't.....

I agree... We're not in a great position, but I'm willing to give this roster a chance if McGrath is willing to run a system that fits this team.
AS am I, but i have severe doubts in the last part of your sentence

Yeah, I'm hopeful he can learn a thing or two from Wes Miller who adjusted his style of play at UNCG and now they're a quality Mid Major. C.B. and Wes are close, I know they recently played golf together at Eagle Point.
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(07-29-2019 02:37 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
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(07-29-2019 02:23 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:15 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(07-29-2019 02:12 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  Bowen has a higher ceiling than is being projected up here due to his athleticism. Dude has some major hops for someone who is 6'8"... He could come in and see 20-25 minutes of PT right away due to his ability to protect them rim which is something UNCW hasn't had since Cedrick Williams. He also was a solid rebounder on the D2 level. Someone on this thread have some inside info from the Belmont Abbey source saying they saw Bowen as their best player going forward. Truthfully, I think Bowen could benefit from a redshirt year to bulk up some under Ben Fleming but unfortunately we really need him to be eligible right away.

Not doubting the possibilities, but we are in the same position we have been in for awhile. More unknowns than knowns following some pretty bad seasons. Maybe he'll pan out, maybe he won't.....

I agree... We're not in a great position, but I'm willing to give this roster a chance if McGrath is willing to run a system that fits this team.
AS am I, but i have severe doubts in the last part of your sentence

Yeah, I'm hopeful he can learn a thing or two from Wes Miller who adjusted his style of play at UNCG and now they're a quality Mid Major. C.B. and Wes are close, I know they recently played golf together at Eagle Point.
Let's hope! Eagle point is a nice course, i've played there but it was a solid 15 years ago!
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(07-24-2019 07:10 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote:  
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(07-24-2019 02:22 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 01:33 PM)Proff Wrote:  So our 2020 offers are as follows:

Javon Bensn, 6'8"
Dean Reiber, 6'9"
Melvin Edward's, 6'6"
Raekwon Horton, 6'6"
Giancarlo Rosado, 6'8"
Jaden Coleman, 6'4"
Jemaine Mann, 6'6"

Have I left anyone out? How many scholarships do we have to give for 2020?

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Looks like we can take Rosado off the list. He trimmed his schools down yesterday and UNCW didn't make the cut. Disappointing as he was my favorite big they have offered so far. Reiber would be 2nd. Edwards would be my top preference out of the wings they have offered.

https://twitter.com/giancarlo_345/status...8648947712
Wow got out recruited by FAU, Mason, Mercer, and Georgia Southern, yikes!

Eh, hopefully the staff is focusing in on Javon Benson. Offers from ETSU, Murray State and C of C.

Benson was offered by South Carolina recently. Not only are they the first P5 to offer him, they're also in his hometown...
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(08-05-2019 10:10 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 07:10 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 04:43 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 02:22 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(07-24-2019 01:33 PM)Proff Wrote:  So our 2020 offers are as follows:

Javon Bensn, 6'8"
Dean Reiber, 6'9"
Melvin Edward's, 6'6"
Raekwon Horton, 6'6"
Giancarlo Rosado, 6'8"
Jaden Coleman, 6'4"
Jemaine Mann, 6'6"

Have I left anyone out? How many scholarships do we have to give for 2020?

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Looks like we can take Rosado off the list. He trimmed his schools down yesterday and UNCW didn't make the cut. Disappointing as he was my favorite big they have offered so far. Reiber would be 2nd. Edwards would be my top preference out of the wings they have offered.

https://twitter.com/giancarlo_345/status...8648947712
Wow got out recruited by FAU, Mason, Mercer, and Georgia Southern, yikes!

Eh, hopefully the staff is focusing in on Javon Benson. Offers from ETSU, Murray State and C of C.

Benson was offered by South Carolina recently. Not only are they the first P5 to offer him, they're also in his hometown...
Have you seen all these guys play in person ? Just wondering how you would have a favorite.
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