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(04-03-2019 12:08 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
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(04-02-2019 01:23 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(02-18-2019 02:02 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  A write up on Ben Beeker. Who took an unofficial visit to UNCW for the Elon Game.

http://www.phenomhoopreport.com/unsigned...en-beeker/

2019 6’9 Ben Beeker of Hendersonville (NC) has committed to Furman University

Surpassed by Furman in the recruiting world....
A two season record of 21-45 is not exactly ringing endorsement.

Lol UNCW never even offered Beeker a scholarship. Not everything has to be a knock on the staff. SMH.

Didn't realize he wasn't offered. Wonder why not?
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(03-26-2019 07:39 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  We just offered a JUCO out of Lawrence, KS. 6-5 combo guard Brian Tolefree. He has 3 years of eligibility left.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/brian-tolefree

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Billy Donlon just offered Tolefree at UMKC.
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(03-26-2019 07:39 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  We just offered a JUCO out of Lawrence, KS. 6-5 combo guard Brian Tolefree. He has 3 years of eligibility left.

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/brian-tolefree

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Billy Donlon just offered Tolefree at UMKC.

I'm all for rooting for Billy Donlon's success... but not at the expense of him swooping in on our recruits. 03-nutkick
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It sucks that he's from Kansas as well! That's a bummer. I hope that he still likes his chances here though. We could use a guy with his athleticism and driving ability.
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Providence, Towson, Marshall, UNC Wilmington, Toledo, Georgia State, Lander (D2), and Lincoln Memorial (D2) have all started to show interest in 2019 Omaha Central (NE) 6-10 PF/C Javier Turner.

http://www.hudl.com/profile/10477762/Javier-Turner

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/javier-...-stats.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thdtN0L4...e=youtu.be
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(02-25-2019 10:41 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  According to jucorecruiting.com UNCW has offered G Keishawn Brewton (6'3 Chipola). He is the 22nd ranked JUCO player according to their 2019 rankings

https://www.jucorecruiting.com/news_article/show/997580

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/keishawn-brewton

http://chipolaathletics.com/sports/mbkb/...shawn_z60q

https://247sports.com/Player/Keishawn-Brewton-46081440/

Keishawn Brewton (6’3, G, 2019) of Chipola College has committed to Coastal Carolina
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(04-16-2019 07:56 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  
(02-25-2019 10:41 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  According to jucorecruiting.com UNCW has offered G Keishawn Brewton (6'3 Chipola). He is the 22nd ranked JUCO player according to their 2019 rankings

https://www.jucorecruiting.com/news_article/show/997580

http://www.verbalcommits.com/players/keishawn-brewton

http://chipolaathletics.com/sports/mbkb/...shawn_z60q

https://247sports.com/Player/Keishawn-Brewton-46081440/

Keishawn Brewton (6’3, G, 2019) of Chipola College has committed to Coastal Carolina

Anyone concerned that we are now losing recruits to Coastal Carolina and we haven't gotten any new commits this spring yet?
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(04-17-2019 10:25 AM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  Anyone concerned that we are now losing recruits to Coastal Carolina and we haven't gotten any new commits this spring yet?

Observationally, the M.O. in the McGrath era has been to get guys in an almost stealth manner. You haven't heard much about us recruiting them...the BANG they are committed.

Seems to me that McGrath has a system that he hell bent on using, regardless of whether it fits the group of players he has at the moment - so he may as well go get the players that fit that system ASAP if he can. I have been basically impressed with the quality of the guys this coaching team has recruited heretofore. So I am going to operate on the assumption that our coach's strong point is recruiting and that he is going to get the players he wants/needs to run the system he wants to run...
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I'm not concerned about this one honestly. At 6'3, Brewton was gonna have a hard time starting with Gadsden and Toews already in place. Also, I believe the staff offered Brewton early on, and cooled on him. This is all speculation... Now a guy like Kennedy Koehler, who plays a position of need for us and also doesn't have any offers from schools higher than UNCW is a guy they need to land. The only thing going against us with him is he's from Las Vegas, so he might want to stay closer to home. CCU was probably just a better fit for Brewton.
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(04-17-2019 11:08 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I'm not concerned about this one honestly. At 6'3, Brewton was gonna have a hard time starting with Gadsden and Toews already in place. Also, I believe the staff offered Brewton early on, and cooled on him. This is all speculation... Now a guy like Kennedy Koehler, who plays a position of need for us and also doesn't have any offers from schools higher than UNCW is a guy they need to land. The only thing going against us with him is he's from Las Vegas, so he might want to stay closer to home. CCU was probably just a better fit for Brewton.
Agree that it isn't a position of huge need, but we did offer the kid and he chose Coastal Carolina over us. When recruits start choosing Coastal Carolina over us, that is concerning. Regardless, it is April 18th and as of right now, we basically have 7 players for next year. We need to add 6 to 8 new players in the next 60 days or so. I can't imagine there is a ton of high level talent left out there that is uncommitted at this point.
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(04-18-2019 02:23 PM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  
(04-17-2019 11:08 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I'm not concerned about this one honestly. At 6'3, Brewton was gonna have a hard time starting with Gadsden and Toews already in place. Also, I believe the staff offered Brewton early on, and cooled on him. This is all speculation... Now a guy like Kennedy Koehler, who plays a position of need for us and also doesn't have any offers from schools higher than UNCW is a guy they need to land. The only thing going against us with him is he's from Las Vegas, so he might want to stay closer to home. CCU was probably just a better fit for Brewton.
Agree that it isn't a position of huge need, but we did offer the kid and he chose Coastal Carolina over us. When recruits start choosing Coastal Carolina over us, that is concerning. Regardless, it is April 18th and as of right now, we basically have 7 players for next year. We need to add 6 to 8 new players in the next 60 days or so. I can't imagine there is a ton of high level talent left out there that is uncommitted at this point.
I think you are over reacting a bit. Don't think kids don't look at the situation they would be going too and see the competition that's there. Maybe Coastal has more of a need in that role, which would result in almost a guarantee of immediate significant playing time. All these things factor
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(04-17-2019 11:08 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I'm not concerned about this one honestly. At 6'3, Brewton was gonna have a hard time starting with Gadsden and Toews already in place. Also, I believe the staff offered Brewton early on, and cooled on him. This is all speculation... Now a guy like Kennedy Koehler, who plays a position of need for us and also doesn't have any offers from schools higher than UNCW is a guy they need to land. The only thing going against us with him is he's from Las Vegas, so he might want to stay closer to home. CCU was probably just a better fit for Brewton.
Agree that it isn't a position of huge need, but we did offer the kid and he chose Coastal Carolina over us. When recruits start choosing Coastal Carolina over us, that is concerning. Regardless, it is April 18th and as of right now, we basically have 7 players for next year. We need to add 6 to 8 new players in the next 60 days or so. I can't imagine there is a ton of high level talent left out there that is uncommitted at this point.

Huge overreaction. Go back and look at this thread a year ago, people had the same concerns, and the staff landed Gadsden, O’ Connell, and Linnsen. The truth is you only need 9 or 10 scholarship players to be successful. The last 3 or 4 scholarships are either transfers, redshirts, or plain bench warmers. I’ve followed our recruiting the whole season and never thought Brewton was a good fit. While the staff concerns me in some areas, recruiting is not one. Let’s let everything fall in place before we hit the panic button lol.
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(04-18-2019 02:37 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(04-18-2019 02:23 PM)Seahawk33 Wrote:  
(04-17-2019 11:08 AM)Gary Miller Wrote:  I'm not concerned about this one honestly. At 6'3, Brewton was gonna have a hard time starting with Gadsden and Toews already in place. Also, I believe the staff offered Brewton early on, and cooled on him. This is all speculation... Now a guy like Kennedy Koehler, who plays a position of need for us and also doesn't have any offers from schools higher than UNCW is a guy they need to land. The only thing going against us with him is he's from Las Vegas, so he might want to stay closer to home. CCU was probably just a better fit for Brewton.
Agree that it isn't a position of huge need, but we did offer the kid and he chose Coastal Carolina over us. When recruits start choosing Coastal Carolina over us, that is concerning. Regardless, it is April 18th and as of right now, we basically have 7 players for next year. We need to add 6 to 8 new players in the next 60 days or so. I can't imagine there is a ton of high level talent left out there that is uncommitted at this point.
I think you are over reacting a bit. Don't think kids don't look at the situation they would be going too and see the competition that's there. Maybe Coastal has more of a need in that role, which would result in almost a guarantee of immediate significant playing time. All these things factor

Losing a recruit to Coastal is not an embarrassment. We have many similarities being near the beach. Losing a recruit to EZU. Now that's embarrassing.
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Recruiting concerns this late are valid depsite attempts to deflect. We just lost a lot of players in the second year of the McGrath era. Yes, we landed Linssen and Gasden, but McGrath basically had a "pass" on year one for a horrible record. Sorry, but in the minds of potential recruits a bad first year, followed by a worse last place finish second year, followed by a slew of transfers doesn't inspire confidence.

Let's not forget, it's EASY for potential recruits to contact the players who transferred out and get their opinion on UNCW. What do you think Elmore, Gary, Fornes and Taylor will say to a recruit about coming to UNCW to play basketball?
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(04-19-2019 05:14 AM)82hawk Wrote:  Recruiting concerns this late are valid depsite attempts to deflect. We just lost a lot of players in the second year of the McGrath era. Yes, we landed Linssen and Gasden, but McGrath basically had a "pass" on year one for a horrible record. Sorry, but in the minds of potential recruits a bad first year, followed by a worse last place finish second year, followed by a slew of transfers doesn't inspire confidence.

Let's not forget, it's EASY for potential recruits to contact the players who transferred out and get their opinion on UNCW. What do you think Elmore, Gary, Fornes and Taylor will say to a recruit about coming to UNCW to play basketball?

Seems just as easy for them to chat with current players on what it's like, why they stayed, etc.

I get your point, but there's always the other side of the coin. Unless you're a magician with one of those double-faced coins. 04-cheers
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It’s honestly quite laughable the concerns coming from not getting a recruit. It’s a big reach to think a recruit is going to randomly reach out to someone that transferred out of the program unless they knew them previously. Gotta love the yearly late signing period “concerns”... it’s one recruit guys, there’s not a staff in college basketball that gets everyone they offer.
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(04-19-2019 03:44 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  It’s honestly quite laughable the concerns coming from not getting a recruit. It’s a big reach to think a recruit is going to randomly reach out to someone that transferred out of the program unless they knew them previously. Gotta love the yearly late signing period “concerns”... it’s one recruit guys, there’s not a staff in college basketball that gets everyone they offer.

If you don't think recruits would reach out to players who transferred out of a program to find out why, you're kidding yourself. It's one click on a phone that they use to communicate with on social media every day of their life. The athlete in my family contacts players at other high schools all the time about "stuff" she hears about their program/coaches/players. They build relationships purely online. Not to mention, parents. You don't think they'd reach out to other parents or the students? C'mon.

Quick search on google/facebook/instagram to find a player or parent.


"Hey, my kid is being recruited my UNCW to play basketaball. I noticed your son requested a transfer. Do you mind if I ask why?" Naw, can't see that happening...07-coffee3
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(04-19-2019 03:59 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(04-19-2019 03:44 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  It’s honestly quite laughable the concerns coming from not getting a recruit. It’s a big reach to think a recruit is going to randomly reach out to someone that transferred out of the program unless they knew them previously. Gotta love the yearly late signing period “concerns”... it’s one recruit guys, there’s not a staff in college basketball that gets everyone they offer.

If you don't think recruits would reach out to players who transferred out of a program to find out why, you're kidding yourself. It's one click on a phone that they use to communicate with on social media every day of their life. The athlete in my family contacts players at other high schools all the time about "stuff" she hears about their program/coaches/players. They build relationships purely online. Not to mention, parents. You don't think they'd reach out to other parents or the students? C'mon.

Quick search on google/facebook/instagram to find a player or parent.


"Hey, my kid is being recruited my UNCW to play basketaball. I noticed your son requested a transfer. Do you mind if I ask why?" Naw, can't see that happening...07-coffee3

Sure it's a possibility.

We lost ONE recruit to the Coastal. That's clearly evidence our coach who was a proven recruiter thus far has clearly lost that edge too. Time to throw in the towel and just fear the worst.

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(04-19-2019 03:59 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(04-19-2019 03:44 PM)Gary Miller Wrote:  It’s honestly quite laughable the concerns coming from not getting a recruit. It’s a big reach to think a recruit is going to randomly reach out to someone that transferred out of the program unless they knew them previously. Gotta love the yearly late signing period “concerns”... it’s one recruit guys, there’s not a staff in college basketball that gets everyone they offer.

If you don't think recruits would reach out to players who transferred out of a program to find out why, you're kidding yourself. It's one click on a phone that they use to communicate with on social media every day of their life. The athlete in my family contacts players at other high schools all the time about "stuff" she hears about their program/coaches/players. They build relationships purely online. Not to mention, parents. You don't think they'd reach out to other parents or the students? C'mon.

Quick search on google/facebook/instagram to find a player or parent.


"Hey, my kid is being recruited my UNCW to play basketaball. I noticed your son requested a transfer. Do you mind if I ask why?" Naw, can't see that happening...07-coffee3

Sure it's a possibility.

We lost ONE recruit to the Coastal. That's clearly evidence our coach who was a proven recruiter thus far has clearly lost that edge too. Time to throw in the towel and just fear the worst.

07-coffee3

You took a bigger leap than me, lol. I didn't say anything like that. We are recruiting in tough circumstances. He may be a great recruiter, but the wind is against him with a really bad two year record and 5 players transferring out last year.

Simple question, would YOU do research on a school recruiting you? And when you or your parents discovered 5 players transferred out, would you reach out to them on social media to find out what happened? I absolutley would. And as a parent, I know I would. Any coach would have a hard time recruiting under those circumstances, so this isn't a knock on his ability just stating the facts. I suppose you don't think these facts would have any affect on a decision by a recruit? Not to mention, do you think coaches recruting against UNCW don't bring up our record and transfers? Again, c'mon. It's the reason getting off to a great start is so important.
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