on CFP committee.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/stor...esentative

Congrats.

Texas Tech is negotiating well it seems.

(02-09-2015 07:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Congrats.

Texas Tech is negotiating well it seems.

Art Briles wanted a southern voice to fight for the Big 12.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...utherners/

I think it was a good selection. Hocutt played football at K-State and mentored under Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione.

(02-09-2015 07:24 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Congrats.

Texas Tech is negotiating well it seems.

Art Briles wanted a southern voice to fight for the Big 12.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...utherners/

I think it was a good selection. Hocutt played football at K-State and mentored under Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione.

Well, it makes sense that it would be Texas Tech more so than any other school. Their vote is absolutely needed for the big plan. It is cute that Briles thought as much and that his comments were used for this but I highly doubt his opinion on the matter had much actual bearing. Sure they probably told him that it did but this is far too valuable of a position for it to not be used in the overarching negotiation. Those are the people that decided this and they are far above Briles.

(02-09-2015 07:24 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Congrats.

Texas Tech is negotiating well it seems.

Art Briles wanted a southern voice to fight for the Big 12.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...utherners/

I think it was a good selection. Hocutt played football at K-State and mentored under Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione.

Definitely more regionally tied than Luck was

Here's another article about Hocutt.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...-means.ece

Perhaps Mr. Briles wouldn't have to worry about missing the playoff if his team had done what they needed to in Morgantown last year.

(02-10-2015 07:15 AM)lofi Wrote:  Here's another article about Hocutt.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...-means.ece

Perhaps Mr. Briles wouldn't have to worry about missing the playoff if his team had done what they needed to in Morgantown last year.

You mean Baylor control their own destiny but blew it with a loss to WV & weak OOC scheduling? Noooo. It was those damn committee members who don't know a darn thing about Big 12 football I tell yeah.

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(02-09-2015 08:43 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:24 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Congrats.

Texas Tech is negotiating well it seems.

Art Briles wanted a southern voice to fight for the Big 12.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...utherners/

I think it was a good selection. Hocutt played football at K-State and mentored under Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione.

Definitely more regionally tied than Luck was

Oh really? Luck played in the NFL for the Houston Oilers, got his law degree from Texas, was Chief Executive Officer of the Houston Sports Authority from 2001 until he left to become WVU's AD, and was named president of the Houston Dynamo of Major League Soccer in 2005. Explain to me how Castiglione has more regional ties than Oliver Luck. I'd like to hear this one.

Only an idiot, like Art Briles, thought Ollie had no ties to XII country.

(02-10-2015 12:37 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 08:43 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:24 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Congrats.

Texas Tech is negotiating well it seems.

Art Briles wanted a southern voice to fight for the Big 12.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...utherners/

I think it was a good selection. Hocutt played football at K-State and mentored under Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione.

Definitely more regionally tied than Luck was

Oh really? Luck played in the NFL for the Houston Oilers, got his law degree from Texas, was Chief Executive Officer of the Houston Sports Authority from 2001 until he left to become WVU's AD, and was named president of the Houston Dynamo of Major League Soccer in 2005. Explain to me how Castiglione has more regional ties than Oliver Luck. I'd like to hear this one.

Only an idiot, like Art Briles, thought Ollie had no ties to XII country.

It's different when you haven't lived in that part of the country in years. His experience in Texas was as a Law student, an NFL player, and working with MLS- all worthy pursuits but none really diving into the nitty gritty of college football or the league his appointment represents.

Don't be so defensive Bit. I'm not calling Luck's credibility as an individual into question, just stating the fact that a "Big 12 Rep" with 2 years of his school competing in the league that hasn't lived in the heart of the league in years isn't as regionally tied which is fair and in no way some insult.

Castiglione has over 15 years as AD at OU competing in the league & living smack dab in the middle of it. Tough to argue many AD's that have more close up experience with the league. Pre-retirement DeLoss is the only one I could think of to argue with extensive KSU experience prior to decades at UT.

Hocutt is a decent pick as a former player who serves as AD in a more geocentric league school.

(02-10-2015 10:17 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 07:15 AM)lofi Wrote:  Here's another article about Hocutt.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/college...-means.ece

Perhaps Mr. Briles wouldn't have to worry about missing the playoff if his team had done what they needed to in Morgantown last year.

You mean Baylor control their own destiny but blew it with a loss to WV & weak OOC scheduling? Noooo. It was those damn committee members who don't know a darn thing about Big 12 football I tell yeah.

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BU has nobody to blame but themselves for losing but tOSU was forgiven a worse loss & more struggle games against an overall SOS that was similar with near identical quality wins. It was a tossup prior to Wisconsin getting flattened for a reason.

At minimum the Big 12 was at a disadvantage on selection vs the B1G due to the composition of the group.

(02-10-2015 12:37 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 08:43 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:24 PM)RaiderRed Wrote:  

(02-09-2015 07:13 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Congrats.

Texas Tech is negotiating well it seems.

Art Briles wanted a southern voice to fight for the Big 12.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com...utherners/

I think it was a good selection. Hocutt played football at K-State and mentored under Oklahoma AD Joe Castiglione.

Definitely more regionally tied than Luck was

Oh really? Luck played in the NFL for the Houston Oilers, got his law degree from Texas, was Chief Executive Officer of the Houston Sports Authority from 2001 until he left to become WVU's AD, and was named president of the Houston Dynamo of Major League Soccer in 2005. Explain to me how Castiglione has more regional ties than Oliver Luck. I'd like to hear this one.

Only an idiot, like Art Briles, thought Ollie had no ties to XII country.

I don't think 1845 meant any harm. The Big 12 needs a voice in the CFP committee room and I believe Hocutt helps in that regard.

Nothing against Oliver Luck but Kirby Hocutt is well respected by his peers in the Big 12, grew up in Big 12 country (Sherman,Tx) and attended a Big 12 school. Add in the fact that he mentored under Joe Castiglione at OU and it seems like this was a home run selection.

I have no problem with Hocutt. I think he'll do as good a job as anyone could. But I do think people who don't believe Oliver Luck had no clue about the Big XII or Big XII country were short changing him. And I still think Art Briles is an idiot. That is all.

(02-10-2015 01:58 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  At minimum the Big 12 was at a disadvantage on selection vs the B1G due to the composition of the group.

LOL ..... poor Big 12. Poor Baylor. Lost out due to politics.


If one wants to play that game ....... at a minimum, Houston, SMU, TCU and Rice were at a disadvantage on selection (in the mid-1990s) into the Big 12 due to the composition of the then power-players in the state of Texas.


Now, what is a Baylor fan's thoughts on the politics of THAT situation?

(02-11-2015 02:30 PM)bitcruncher Wrote:  I have no problem with Hocutt. I think he'll do as good a job as anyone could. But I do think people who don't believe Oliver Luck had no clue about the Big XII or Big XII country were short changing him. And I still think Art Briles is an idiot. That is all.

Art is a POC and Tech passed on him twice. Google stidham and barefoot athletics.

(02-11-2015 02:56 PM)NittanyLion Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 01:58 PM)1845 Bear Wrote:  At minimum the Big 12 was at a disadvantage on selection vs the B1G due to the composition of the group.

LOL ..... poor Big 12. Poor Baylor. Lost out due to politics.


If one wants to play that game ....... at a minimum, Houston, SMU, TCU and Rice were at a disadvantage on selection (in the mid-1990s) into the Big 12 due to the composition of the then power-players in the state of Texas.


Now, what is a Baylor fan's thoughts on the politics of THAT situation?

Hey nice troll attempt!

It was going to be 10 teams before BU & TT got in due to political help. Neither pushed UH, Rice, SMU, or TCU out as they were already out.