That's a cool read.

Any idea why it's written by a paper in San Diego?

(02-09-2015 01:44 PM)Big Alpha Hawk Wrote:  http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2009/may/...ticle-copy

Good read about Beckham in high school going against LeBron

Well deserved by John. I also remember JJ tossing his shoe in crowd during CAA tournament not sure if they were playing us or if it was another opponent.

If I remember right, we were waiting to play the next game when JJ slung his shoe off his foot.

And Blizzard was our best guard all around, but JG was our best point guard ever. I would say the Martin twins were up there as our best guard combo. At least they were fun to watch. I know, I know. Most on here are probably asking who are the Martin twins?

JJB was such a hot head.

The Martin twins were fun to watch because after playing all their lives together they had an uncanny ability to know where each other was and what each was about to do. JG was the best at the point. Next best pg was Barry Taylor.

The tribute is up on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2s_XUjFW5U

Just watched and makes me super sad I didn't get down there Saturday!! Damn you life for getting in the way

So glad I got to watch Goldsberry play basketball at UNCW.

There are two players that were in the "lost years" that I hope are recognized one day.

Keith Rendleman
Chad Tomko

Take a look a their career stats, and they were pretty impressive.

Tomko:

Career scoring #3
Career scoring avg. #3
Career FG made #4
Career FG attempts #2
Career 3pt. Fg #2
3Pt. attempts #2
3pt. Fg % #12
FT made #7
Ft attempts #14
FT % #1
Assists #2
Assists avg. #3
Steals #3
Steals avg. #3
Games played #1
Games started #2

Rendleman:

Scoring #4
Scoring avg. #6
FG made #3
FG attempts #6
FG% #7
FT made #4
FT attempts #2
FT % #16
Rebounds #1
Rebound Avg. #2
Blocked shots #1
Steals #5
Steals avg. #5
Games played #3
Games started #4


It's hard to look at losing seasons and find value. But these two guys are among he best to play at UNCW. Under different circumstances, they would no doubt be in consideration as all time greats.

As much as Tomko would drive me crazy in trying to win by himself, he was a baller. And in retrospect, he really had no talent around him besides Rendleman. More often than not, he had to break a press by himself, plus score.

His first year, he had TJ, Vlad, Hendley and Fountain starting with him. And as a Freshman, he led the team in steals. That team won 20 games, and played in the CAA finals.

The next year he had Johnny Wolf, Montez Downey, Kevon Moore, Dominique Lacy, Josh Sheets, Jerel Stephenson.

Third Year - Rendleman, John Fields, Ahmad Grant, Johnny Wolf, Lacy, Trevor DeLoach
, Matt Wilson

Final year - Milson, DeLoach, Rendleman, Wilson, Ahmad Grant, Donte Morales, Darryl Felder

Beyond Rendleman, he really had no help.

And as far as Rendleman goes, his numbers equal and exceed Rowsom in many categories.

Rendleman is a "bubble candidate" to have his name retired one day. His numbers are great, but unfortunately as you said, he came along at the wrong time. While his numbers exceed Rowsom's, Rowsom has the distinct "signature moment": Going toe to toe with David Robinson at Trask, against a Navy team that reached the Elite 8 the year before.

Tomko, no chance. No player who loudly yells "F*ck you" at multiple coaches during games over the course of his career deserves to have his jersey next to Goldsberry's. Talented player for sure, but completely selfish.

Goldsberry added more to the table than just being a great player. He was also a fantastic student and won the Dean Ehlers Award. Mayew is up there for similar reasons.

Blizzard and Rowsom were transcendent players at the mid-major level.

Unless we put Rendleman up there, I think we're done retiring players' numbers until another special one comes along. And rightfully so. It is an elite club and should remain so.

Agree on Tomko, but Rendleman should be considered. Could you imagine Keith on this squad, under Keatts?

(02-10-2015 03:12 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Agree on Tomko, but Rendleman should be considered. Could you imagine Keith on this squad, under Keatts?

(02-10-2015 02:49 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Rendleman is a "bubble candidate" to have his name retired one day. His numbers are great, but unfortunately as you said, he came along at the wrong time. While his numbers exceed Rowsom's, Rowsom has the distinct "signature moment": Going toe to toe with David Robinson at Trask, against a Navy team that reached the Elite 8 the year before.

Tomko, no chance. No player who loudly yells "F*ck you" at multiple coaches during games over the course of his career deserves to have his jersey next to Goldsberry's. Talented player for sure, but completely selfish.

Goldsberry added more to the table than just being a great player. He was also a fantastic student and won the Dean Ehlers Award. Mayew is up there for similar reasons.

Blizzard and Rowsom were transcendent players at the mid-major level.

Unless we put Rendleman up there, I think we're done retiring players' numbers until another special one comes along. And rightfully so. It is an elite club and should remain so.

I agree 100% on all. Well said.

I agree with 08 and CGH06 on Rendleman & Tomko. There is a difference between being a great player (i.e., Tomko & Rendleman) and a great player that became iconic.

(02-10-2015 06:41 PM)Proff Wrote:  I agree with 08 and CGH06 on Rendleman & Tomko. There is a difference between being a great player (i.e., Tomko & Rendleman) and a great player that became iconic.

Tomko was a heck of a ball player, but a terrible teammate.

(02-10-2015 07:34 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(02-10-2015 06:41 PM)Proff Wrote:  

Tomko was a heck of a ball player, but a terrible teammate.

Exactly. Much like Stan Simmons Chad was a great player but there were other things lacking.

Is there anywhere you can get UNCW basketball jerseys? I noticed UNCW gave one to Goldsberry on his jersey retirement night. I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to get JG to sign one and it would look awesome in a man cave.

(02-16-2015 09:51 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  Is there anywhere you can get UNCW basketball jerseys? I noticed UNCW gave one to Goldsberry on his jersey retirement night. I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to get JG to sign one and it would look awesome in a man cave.

I've never seen one anywhere.

Stan might have been irresponsible and made some mistakes but he was not selfish and a great teammate. He was also held to much tougher standards for behavior than later coaches demanded. Almost all things he did would have gone unnoticed.

(02-16-2015 10:18 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  

(02-16-2015 09:51 AM)BigDoubleU Wrote:  Is there anywhere you can get UNCW basketball jerseys? I noticed UNCW gave one to Goldsberry on his jersey retirement night. I'm sure it wouldn't be that hard to get JG to sign one and it would look awesome in a man cave.

I've never seen one anywhere.

http://www.collegefangear.com/unc_wilmin...OINwvnF_wk