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RE: Reaching Out to Tuscaloosa
The "President's mansion" is the former Rick Woodward estate on Redmont Road. I attended a reception there when I graduated in 1972 and the resident was Dr Joe Volker. If that estate has remained the "President's mansion" then I presume that is where Dr Ray Watts resides while he is President of UAB. Back then the security and service staff was maintained by UAB. I imagine it still is.

Nearly all of the professional staff of UAB medical center lives OTM since they make the income to afford it, and they value the educational opportunities most in our state are denied. My brother, who taught surgery @ UAB and was Director of the Burn Unit, has lived in Mountain Brook since the 1960s.
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RE: Reaching Out to Tuscaloosa
(02-09-2015 01:42 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Mountain Brook is populated by those who can afford to buy or to build there, often to take advantage of their highly regarded school system (well supported by highest in the state LOCAL property taxes used only for their LOCAL school district) for their kids, not to mention those who value the several walled & gated communities. Not all are "rich", but they are generally among the upper 25% income group. The state of Alabama is where they live, but not necessarily what they feel defines them as individuals. Many send their kids to colleges all over the world, not just instate or even in the south.

we get it, you hate mountain brook and what you perceive it to be. They aren't the only rich area in Birmingham or the state, but you sure love reminding us of everything they do wrong. I didn't graduate from mountain brook, but I am sure as hell not as focused on them as I am on improving my own community. We all get it, mountain brook is nice and there is money there. That ain't changing. Move on and worry about something you can control.
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Nobody has been condemned in any of these resolutions.
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(02-09-2015 09:03 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(02-09-2015 01:42 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  Mountain Brook is populated by those who can afford to buy or to build there, often to take advantage of their highly regarded school system (well supported by highest in the state LOCAL property taxes used only for their LOCAL school district) for their kids, not to mention those who value the several walled & gated communities. Not all are "rich", but they are generally among the upper 25% income group. The state of Alabama is where they live, but not necessarily what they feel defines them as individuals. Many send their kids to colleges all over the world, not just instate or even in the south.

we get it, you hate mountain brook and what you perceive it to be. They aren't the only rich area in Birmingham or the state, but you sure love reminding us of everything they do wrong. I didn't graduate from mountain brook, but I am sure as hell not as focused on them as I am on improving my own community. We all get it, mountain brook is nice and there is money there. That ain't changing. Move on and worry about something you can control.

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(02-09-2015 05:57 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  
(02-09-2015 01:07 PM)rook360 Wrote:  You do know the base of Mountain Brook residence are from Alabama. The transients come and go. Most are from the south and sec country.
And who said Watts lives in MB? They actually publishesed his home address.

I say Watts lives in Mtn. Brook, as he lives about a mile from my house. (That is unless he recently moved.) Probably 80% of the Drs. that work at UAB live here or in one of the other OTM communities.

And with that in mind, you better have a good lobby behind you to get the Mtn. Brook City Council to pass a resolution condemning one of their own, tax paying residents.

The UAB president's mansion, Woodward House is within the city limits of Birmingham...but yes, within a mile of Mountain Brook.
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Doesn't Watt's have his own house actually in MB rather than living in Woodward?
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Montgomery first, then Tuscaloosa! #FreeUABandUAH
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(02-10-2015 07:33 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  Doesn't Watt's have his own house actually in MB rather than living in Woodward?

Well if he does why were there two UAB cruisers stationed there. One at the gate and one on the property at the house.
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(02-07-2015 12:21 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  On Facebook I'm hearing that Homewood's schools and police are supported heavily by Bryant Bank. That might be all she wrote.

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So is Trussville, but didn't they pass a resolution or am I mistaken? Or was that Clay? I'm pretty sure I recall Clay supporting UAB.
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(02-10-2015 07:29 PM)blazerjay Wrote:  
(02-09-2015 05:57 PM)backyardblazer Wrote:  
(02-09-2015 01:07 PM)rook360 Wrote:  You do know the base of Mountain Brook residence are from Alabama. The transients come and go. Most are from the south and sec country.
And who said Watts lives in MB? They actually publishesed his home address.

I say Watts lives in Mtn. Brook, as he lives about a mile from my house. (That is unless he recently moved.) Probably 80% of the Drs. that work at UAB live here or in one of the other OTM communities.

And with that in mind, you better have a good lobby behind you to get the Mtn. Brook City Council to pass a resolution condemning one of their own, tax paying residents.

The UAB president's mansion, Woodward House is within the city limits of Birmingham...but yes, within a mile of Mountain Brook.

That's what I thought, that's not Mountain Brook. AND TRUST ME, I KNOW EVER ROAD AND THE CITY LIMITS IF MOUNTAIN BROOK. I'm not trying to have a measuring contest here. You don't live in mountain brook and if you think you do then try bringing something up at city hall or a council meeting and see where that gets you.

What I'm getting at is, it takes someone who is either a well established and known citizen of the brook or the city manager to even get them to consider it. They're not all stuck up and disconected, but for them to get involved it has to be shown how it's detrimental to their city and tiny kingdom. How dies this effect their kids?
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(02-10-2015 08:18 PM)BlazerDave Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 07:33 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  Doesn't Watt's have his own house actually in MB rather than living in Woodward?

Well if he does why were there two UAB cruisers stationed there. One at the gate and one on the property at the house.

To protect it from any of us tossing Golden Gallons™ over the gate.

Thirty seconds with the Google shows that Diamond Ray owns a home on E. Briarcliff in the Brook, and an apartment in Park Slope in Brooklyn complete with live-in housekeeper.

From Wikipedia, the font of all knowledge:

Park Slope is considered one of New York City's most desirable neighborhoods. In 2010, it was ranked number 1 in New York by New York, [Magazine] citing its quality public schools, dining, nightlife, shopping, access to public transit, green space, safety, and creative capital, among other aspects.

We are paying this bozo way, way too much.
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(02-10-2015 10:33 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 08:18 PM)BlazerDave Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 07:33 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  Doesn't Watt's have his own house actually in MB rather than living in Woodward?

Well if he does why were there two UAB cruisers stationed there. One at the gate and one on the property at the house.

To protect it from any of us tossing Golden Gallons™ over the gate.

Thirty seconds with the Google shows that Diamond Ray owns a home on E. Briarcliff in the Brook, and an apartment in Park Slope in Brooklyn complete with live-in housekeeper.

From Wikipedia, the font of all knowledge:

Park Slope is considered one of New York City's most desirable neighborhoods. In 2010, it was ranked number 1 in New York by New York, [Magazine] citing its quality public schools, dining, nightlife, shopping, access to public transit, green space, safety, and creative capital, among other aspects.

We are paying this bozo way, way too much.

Especially since he has trouble communicating with his constituents and needs a PR firm to help him do so.
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(02-10-2015 10:33 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 08:18 PM)BlazerDave Wrote:  
(02-10-2015 07:33 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  Doesn't Watt's have his own house actually in MB rather than living in Woodward?

Well if he does why were there two UAB cruisers stationed there. One at the gate and one on the property at the house.

To protect it from any of us tossing Golden Gallons™ over the gate.

Thirty seconds with the Google shows that Diamond Ray owns a home on E. Briarcliff in the Brook, and an apartment in Park Slope in Brooklyn complete with live-in housekeeper.

From Wikipedia, the font of all knowledge:

Park Slope is considered one of New York City's most desirable neighborhoods. In 2010, it was ranked number 1 in New York by New York, [Magazine] citing its quality public schools, dining, nightlife, shopping, access to public transit, green space, safety, and creative capital, among other aspects.

We are paying this bozo way, way too much.

Now I can see why the city council would be against it. What person who can afford it would want to stay where money doesn't at least outwardly protects money.
Get them to see how it effects Mountain Brook directly and/or their kids, and you may gey a consideration.
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F uvck a Mtn Brook
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Many, many people in Mountain Brook have had their hands elbow-deep in Machine Power for several decades now. The idea that Mountain Brook doesn't wish to issue a statement about restoring UAB Football because someone related to that issue lives within their borders is silly. I'm not attacking all of those who live in Mountain Brook, as those who wish to jump to its defense might claim, there are plenty of fine people who live there. With that caveat, anyone that wants to claim coincidence or a cockamamie excuse that Ray Watts or Mackin lives there as the reason they have been dead silent in this, is just ignoring the circumstances and beliefs of many who live there.
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I don't think we should vilify those in Mountain Brook either. I do believe that to get them to put forth a resolution, we have to show them how this effects their city and/or their kids. Most of the older citizens are UA or AU alumni. The younger population are a mixture of college grads, transplants for business, or new money. I don't think most folks there know who Watts is or cares.

The older generation knows UAB as the medical school extension of UA. The younger residents know UAB has "the hospital and the college". It'll help if we have someone who lives there bring it forward.I know it may have been brought up before, but it may need repeating.
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Many residents of Mountain Brook, and those affiliated with their City Hall, are Alabama Graduates, fans, and boosters of U of A. Their kids go to Alabama. Why would they unite and go against the grain of the Board of Trustees support of Watts?

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(02-11-2015 08:21 AM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Many residents of Mountain Brook, and those affiliated with their City Hall, are Alabama Graduates, fans, and boosters of U of A. Their kids go to Alabama. Why would they unite and go against the grain of the Board of Trustees support of Watts?

Finally, back on topic.

Because this is an issue of democratic rule, of fairness, of trustworthy stewardship of vital public assets. A self-perpetuating Board dominated by gambling-connected individuals controls the Crimson Tide program, a team whose games involved over a billion dollars in legal bets last year and several times that in illegal ones. A self-perpetuating Board dominated by officers of a single bank controls billions of dollars in bond issues. And in neither case are this Board's decisions ever even discussed in public, let alone subject to outside review.

The Board's last selections for univesity president at the three campuses? A politically-connected Congressman's sister, a politically-connected mayor's brother, and a raging incompetent willing to carry out the petty agenda of Drummond and Bryant.

Every alumni of the University of Alabama System's three universities should be filled with rage and demanding the following:

1. The total replacement of the Board of Trustees with an accountable, transparent system.

2. A full-scale forensic audit of all bond issues and construction projects approved by the Board, an in particular, an investigation of timelines relating to Bryant Bank and UAS bonds.

3. The release of all former employees of the UA System from any and all non-disclosure agreements, including but not limited to Carol Garrison, Guy Bailey, Malcom Portera, Mike Shula and Brian Mackin.

4. The release of all recordings of video conferences involving three or more members of the UA System Board of Trustees.

If there's nothing to hide, there's nothing to fear. Show us the books, answer our questions.
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(02-10-2015 11:48 PM)Agent Orange Sauce Wrote:  F uvck a Mtn Brook

That'll help bring 'em around. 01-wingedeagle
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