http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/col.../22173755/

Quote:Attorneys representing two former University of North Carolina athletes on Thursday filed a lawsuit against the university and the NCAA in connection with the academic scandal involving Tar Heels athletes.

The suit, which seeks to become a class action, was filed in a North Carolina state court on behalf of women's basketball player Rashanda McCants and football player Devon Ramsay by lawyers from Hausfeld LLP the same firm that is pursuing the Ed O'Bannon antitrust case against the NCAA concerning the use of college athletes' names, images and likenesses.

Rashanda McCants is the younger sister of former North Carolina men's basketball player Rashad McCants.

This case involves allegations of breach of contract against UNC for a failure to provide "academically sound classes with legitimate educational instruction."

The complaint also accuses the NCAA of negligence because: "Although the NCAA's rules prohibit academic fraud, the NCAA knew of dozens of instances of academic fraud in its member schools' athletic programs over the last century, and it nevertheless refused to implement adequate monitoring systems to detect and prevent these occurrences at its member institutions."

Sounds like a teacher problem not a "sports" problem. NCAA can't tell schools which teachers to hire. This all falls on the academic side unless you want to blame the students like ND did.

Jesus Christ.

All this would be over if UNC just admitted 4 years ago they cheated like hell to keep dumb jocks eligible and it would not be eating into the academic and research reputation. Carolina needs to minting doctors, doing biological research, and the like instead of spending million to cover up the stupidity of kids that could not get admitted at a damn trade school.

(01-22-2015 05:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Sounds like a teacher problem not a "sports" problem. NCAA can't tell schools which teachers to hire. This all falls on the academic side unless you want to blame the students like ND did.

No it's a UNC athletic problem. Athletes at UNC are not really free to pick their major. Everything is orchestrated to facilitate games and practice. I know several current athletes whose majors have to be changed to fit their practice schedule. The dumb ones in particular are spoon fed a curriculum to keep them eligible not graduate with a real degree, but the fact is they have no business at UNC-Ch - THEY CAN'T DO THE WORK.

Dick Crum warned against this 30 years ago.

Lack of institutional control isn't a sports problem?

(01-22-2015 05:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Sounds like a teacher problem not a "sports" problem. NCAA can't tell schools which teachers to hire. This all falls on the academic side unless you want to blame the students like ND did.

Well, it was the students (athletes) who cheated.

They paid the price. Isn't that the way it should work?

(01-23-2015 07:53 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 05:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Sounds like a teacher problem not a "sports" problem. NCAA can't tell schools which teachers to hire. This all falls on the academic side unless you want to blame the students like ND did.

Well, it was the students (athletes) who cheated.

They paid the price. Isn't that the way it should work?

In this case, it required two to cheat - the student AND the school. Are you suggesting that the one repeating party to the cheating should have impunity?

The athletes were steered to these classes by their academic support advisors. The system was set up to require minimum class work, allowing maximum time concentrating on sports, and would net grades to keep them eligible to play. That is on the school, not the students.

(01-23-2015 09:24 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-23-2015 07:53 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 05:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Sounds like a teacher problem not a "sports" problem. NCAA can't tell schools which teachers to hire. This all falls on the academic side unless you want to blame the students like ND did.

Well, it was the students (athletes) who cheated.

They paid the price. Isn't that the way it should work?

In this case, it required two to cheat - the student AND the school. Are you suggesting that the one repeating party to the cheating should have impunity?

I was talking about ND, not UNC.

(01-22-2015 05:41 PM)lumberpack4 Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 05:36 PM)Dasville Wrote:  Sounds like a teacher problem not a "sports" problem. NCAA can't tell schools which teachers to hire. This all falls on the academic side unless you want to blame the students like ND did.

No it's a UNC athletic problem. Athletes at UNC are not really free to pick their major. Everything is orchestrated to facilitate games and practice. I know several current athletes whose majors have to be changed to fit their practice schedule. The dumb ones in particular are spoon fed a curriculum to keep them eligible not graduate with a real degree, but the fact is they have no business at UNC-Ch - THEY CAN'T DO THE WORK.

Dick Crum warned against this 30 years ago.

If memory serves me Crum's quote was, "Carolina wants to be Harvard Monday through Friday, and Oklahoma on Saturday."

IF UNC goes down, I hope they come all the way clean. If wins are going to be stripped in several sports I hope the administration urges the Coaches and their assistants to come clean about EVERYTHING they have done and heard about others doing. I hope names are named. I understand keeping good relations with Nike and all, I just hope EVERYTHING they know comes to light. I hope while under oath, the NCAA asks the former UNC students all they know and have heard about how things work behind the scenes. I hope their testimony leads to more revelations about how things really work.

(01-23-2015 08:25 PM)Dasville Wrote:  IF UNC goes down, I hope they come all the way clean. If wins are going to be stripped in several sports I hope the administration urges the Coaches and their assistants to come clean about EVERYTHING they have done and heard about others doing. I hope names are named. I understand keeping good relations with Nike and all, I just hope EVERYTHING they know comes to light. I hope while under oath, the NCAA asks the former UNC students all they know and have heard about how things work behind the scenes. I hope their testimony leads to more revelations about how things really work.

(01-23-2015 08:25 PM)Dasville Wrote:  IF UNC goes down, I hope they come all the way clean. If wins are going to be stripped in several sports I hope the administration urges the Coaches and their assistants to come clean about EVERYTHING they have done and heard about others doing. I hope names are named. I understand keeping good relations with Nike and all, I just hope EVERYTHING they know comes to light. I hope while under oath, the NCAA asks the former UNC students all they know and have heard about how things work behind the scenes. I hope their testimony leads to more revelations about how things really work.

Wut.