http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...per-report

I wouldn't be shocked if this was a smokescreen to cover for something else going on. I also wouldn't be shocked if the "weaker" schools get hit harder than the "stronger" ones. I don't believe anything the NCAA says or does anymore, so I am personally not expecting much to come out of this at all.

Nearly every Division I school takes part in some rather shameful practices to keep their teams competitive.

(01-22-2015 11:27 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketba...per-report

I wouldn't be shocked if this was a smokescreen to cover for something else going on. I also wouldn't be shocked if the "weaker" schools get hit harder than the "stronger" ones. I don't believe anything the NCAA says or does anymore, so I am personally not expecting much to come out of this at all.

Nearly every Division I school takes part in some rather shameful practices to keep their teams competitive.

I doubt that is true. We do know that some schools do but the deflection by those schools and their fans is something like, "everyone else does it too". That should not suffice as a defense.

It does not defend the guilty, but it is the truth.

UNC should be hammered. With that said, there are a raft of schools that should go along with them if they are. They are not alone in this scandal.

This is a problem that needs to be addressed. I am all for hitting any school taking part, even my own.

The entire system has become rotten to the core.

They just restored the wins and eliminated all of the sanctions imposed on a school that nearly everyone agrees looked the other way while one of their former coaches was raping children left and right, sometimes in their own facilities.

Does anyone really think the NCAA is going to do anything to anyone? They are a paper tiger and everyone now knows it. We are officially in the era of the wild, Wild West because there is no enforcement arm any longer.

If the NCAA was being thoughtful (ha) about this, they'd start by defining academic fraud. It obviously includes things like changing grades, or giving a student a grade even if no work is done, or having fake classes that never meet or have coursework and everyone gets an A. Does it include a tutor doing all of a student's work? Sure. Does it include a tutor providing more help for a student-athlete than a regular student would ever get from the school? Probably not; if it did then almost all schools are providing "too much" student-athlete academic help.

Wherever the line is, they need to draw it and be consistent about it, so that we know they're not just punishing unlucky programs or smaller programs that are used to make an example.

Thank you UNC.

(01-22-2015 12:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is a problem that needs to be addressed. I am all for hitting any school taking part, even my own.

The entire system has become rotten to the core.

The entire system has always been rotten to the core. Schools have used academic ringers from the very beginning. Finding ways to keep dimwitted athletes eligible has always been a part of intercollegiate athletics. Of course, finding ways to graduate dimwitted children of rich donors has also always been a part of American higher education, so why single out athletics for our opprobrium?

This is not a "sport" problem, it is a teacher problem. Of course coaches want their players eligible and so do the fans. It is up to the academic side to take a stand.
If you research Eric Bledsoe you have all the example you need.

(01-22-2015 12:56 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 12:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is a problem that needs to be addressed. I am all for hitting any school taking part, even my own.

The entire system has become rotten to the core.

The entire system has always been rotten to the core. Schools have used academic ringers from the very beginning. Finding ways to keep dimwitted athletes eligible has always been a part of intercollegiate athletics. Of course, finding ways to graduate dimwitted children of rich donors has also always been a part of American higher education, so why single out athletics for our opprobrium?

The sons and daughters of dimwitted rich people can at least read and write. There are plenty of instances of athletes graduating from college and playing in college and being illiterate.

(01-22-2015 01:18 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 12:56 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(01-22-2015 12:42 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  This is a problem that needs to be addressed. I am all for hitting any school taking part, even my own.

The entire system has become rotten to the core.

The entire system has always been rotten to the core. Schools have used academic ringers from the very beginning. Finding ways to keep dimwitted athletes eligible has always been a part of intercollegiate athletics. Of course, finding ways to graduate dimwitted children of rich donors has also always been a part of American higher education, so why single out athletics for our opprobrium?

The sons and daughters of dimwitted rich people can at least read and write. There are plenty of instances of athletes graduating from college and playing in college and being illiterate.

I don't know if your first sentence is true. But I do know that there a lot more athletes than rich donors, so it stands to reason that there would be more examples of compromised academic standards. The point is, schools do compromise their standards when it profits them to do so. And I'm not aware of any exceptions to that rule.

NCAA and UNC were sued today over academic fraud issues.

Quote:Two former University of North Carolina athletes filed a lawsuit Thursday against the NCAA and the university in relation to the academic scandal facing North Carolina athletics.

The lawsuit, which is attempting to become a class action suit in North Carolina state court, takes aim at the NCAA's stated educational mission in exchange for participation in college sports.

Former North Carolina women's basketball player Rashanda McCants -- the sister of former men's basketball star Rashad McCants -- and former football player Devon Ramsay are the named plaintiffs in the suit. The case is being led, in part, by the same law firm pursuing the Ed O'Bannon case against the NCAA over the use of college athletes' names, images and likenesses.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...ic-scandal