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(01-17-2015 01:38 PM)LightEmUp70 Wrote:  Says the anonymous person on a message board.

There are a lot of people in the Save UAB Football Facebook group who are saying many of these things under their own names. These include people who have known and been friends with Brian for years. If you are a member of that group, go over and read a thread started by Frank Walton which begins with "Okay, under the comment section of this post..." It is over 300 comments now, with extensive discussion of Mackin's actions. If you are not a member of that group, why aren't you?

It has been reported that in a meeting regarding the advertising plans for UAB Athletics in March of 2013, the plan was largely built on football. Brian asked how such a plan would be constructed without football included. That was about a month after Watts became president. Why would he ask such a question unless he knew it was coming?

There is *no way* that Brian Mackin did not know that we did not have, and were not being allowed to schedule, non-conference games beyond 2016. Such scheduling is at the heart of his job. There is *no way* that he did not know that the contract for the use of Legion Field was only for one year, not the three or four that we usually signed with them.

I like Brian and I don't want to think bad things of him, but these are basic truths. He did not come out in opposition. I don't doubt that he did what he could behind the scenes, but when things were going down the pipe he did not get word to outsiders who could blow it up and start the fight. He has yet, some forty days after football was shut down, said one single word in his own defense or of explanation. If he's catching hell about that, he could speak. He has not and he remains in hiding. If he is still on the UAB payroll, when SACS gets here they may finally get something out of him.


Smith - I have my reservations about him, but I know little. I have heard mixed opinions, and I still watch and wait. No doubt he hobnobs with the big money boys at the bama games, but there is a lot of dealmaking done there, much like the golf course. I won't slam him for that, although it does not endear him to me.

Re the Monday NAS meeting, remember that the group that attended that meeting was an outraged group of the NAS who had forced the meeting under the bylaws. No Watts supporters (to the degree that such exist) or moderate voices were motivated to be there for a Monday night special session. The FreeUAB troops were. I can see how the NAS Board might feel that crowd was not representative of the NAS as a whole. They still gave a weak no-con, offering Watts a way to back down gracefully. It's not their fault that he's too egotistical and stubborn to take it. The very fastest way to re-establish football is for the President to rescind his suspension of the program, and that's what they're hoping for.

I'm not sure that I like or back Smith, but neither am I going to crucify the guy over the results of that meeting. That night the NAS did what no one has officially done before, they pointed an accusing finger at the UA Board of Trustees, and that was big.


If Mackin gets tired of sizzling in the frying pan, all he has to do is to sit down with Scarbinsky or Kyle Whitmire and spill the beans. Continued silence only convinces people that he must have something to hide, something that he is ashamed of.
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01-17-2015 02:09 PM
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RE: SACS Investigation
I am not actually UABSlant's father, that's just what he tells waitresses when he's trying to stick me with his tab.

I know little of Wes Smith, only that he was given a crystal clear directive by the NAS membership and chose to ignore it without explanation or excuse. He has therefore proven himself unreliable and we cannot leave him in a potentially crucial position. Wes must go.

Brian Mackin does not have a warrior's soul. He has an accountant's soul. It's just not his nature to stand on the barricades and spew defiance at the Evil Son of Bear. I don't think he has any strategy at all, but Watts would be in a far stronger position if he and his little blue water bottle had never had to face Tristan Henderson, Ju'won Arrington and Ty Long, and it was Mackin who manuevered him to that podium.
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(01-17-2015 02:09 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I'm not sure that I like or back Smith, but neither am I going to crucify the guy over the results of that meeting. That night the NAS did what no one has officially done before, they pointed an accusing finger at the UA Board of Trustees, and that was big.

I've been thinking long and hard about whether or not this was the most important thing "officially" said this week. It is absolutely huge that the NAS called out the BOT. Maybe we can push for a no confidence vote in the BOT among the students and faculty...

Now it seems after the BOT's comments that the rest of the world is truly beginning to understand who the real enemy is.
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(01-17-2015 02:04 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 01:38 PM)LightEmUp70 Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 01:25 PM)PTBlazer Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 12:40 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 12:14 PM)LightEmUp70 Wrote:  Of course he is. He took hush money. Regardless of what happens he should be ashamed for that especially since he was an athlete here.

How do you know he took hush money ?

I am so sick of people trashing Brian and Wes Smith for doing nothing other than the best they could under very trying circumstances. And stating as a matter of fact (when they have no facts) that they took hush money, payoffs, signed NDAs, are secret BOT stooges, and are connected to every secret cabal from Skull & Bones to the Tri-Lateral Commission.

It is born of the courage that only comes from being anonymous on a message board.

Says the anonymous person on a message board.

Aren't these the same anonymous message board people that swear Mackin took hush money ?

Look, I admit I'm making an assumption on an NDA, though I would say it is an educated guess based on the facts of the case, that he is reported to have a new title which should require a different contract, that so many former employees have NDAs, and that new contracts being given have clauses to keep the coaches quiet. However, I've also stated that I hope this is the case because the alternatives make him either more despicable or a complete idiot.
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I don't like attacking Brian. I like him and he has never given me any reason to dislike him previous to the shutdown. I am still willing to listen to his defense, and I do not doubt that he played things close to his chest and fought from the inside as best he could. I just find the pattern extremely disturbing, and until he speaks up it is very hard to defend his actions based on what we know.

I'm still not calling for the guy's head. I *am* calling for the truth to come out. Someone needs to summon the guts to testify to what happened, name names, and blow the BoT's actions out into the open. I hope that Mackin does so.
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I can understand people coming to Mackin's defense. He is an UAB guy, he put in some real work for UAB, and people that know him talk about him being a pretty good guy. It's just what he has to say could have saved us a lot of grief. Part of the reason the university is in this situation now is because good people are leaving, bad practices are being adopted, and people aren't speaking up.

Yes, I'm posting on anonymous board. Yes, I don't know Mackin or anyone else here. Yes, I don't actually know if he signed any non disclouse agreements or the like. But I wasn't the athletic director, either. I wasn't being paid to be an advocate for UAB athletics. At the very least, it was his job to work for the sake of the university and his job to advance athletics.

I'm not saying he has to camp out somewhere and pull some stunts. People aren't waiting for him to come out of his house so they can tar and feather him. The reason people make these assumptions is because it doesn't make sense for him to just abruptly shut down.

Quote:If he is still on the UAB payroll, when SACS gets here they may finally get something out of him.

I certainly hope so. His dealings with Dr. Watts and the board will certainly go a long way towards helping the cause.
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(01-17-2015 02:23 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I don't like attacking Brian. I like him and he has never given me any reason to dislike him previous to the shutdown. I am still willing to listen to his defense, and I do not doubt that he played things close to his chest and fought from the inside as best he could. I just find the pattern extremely disturbing, and until he speaks up it is very hard to defend his actions based on what we know.

I'm still not calling for the guy's head. I *am* calling for the truth to come out. Someone needs to summon the guts to testify to what happened, name names, and blow the BoT's actions out into the open. I hope that Mackin does so.

"I *am* calling for the truth to come out."

Last night I was also told, some of this WILL be cleared up – one way or another. As it should be.
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(01-17-2015 02:41 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  I can understand people coming to Mackin's defense. He is an UAB guy, he put in some real work for UAB, and people that know him talk about him being a pretty good guy.

Not to mention he quit his job over this entire thing.
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(01-17-2015 02:23 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  I don't like attacking Brian. I like him and he has never given me any reason to dislike him previous to the shutdown. I am still willing to listen to his defense, and I do not doubt that he played things close to his chest and fought from the inside as best he could. I just find the pattern extremely disturbing, and until he speaks up it is very hard to defend his actions based on what we know.

I'm still not calling for the guy's head. I *am* calling for the truth to come out. Someone needs to summon the guts to testify to what happened, name names, and blow the BoT's actions out into the open. I hope that Mackin does so.

Agreed.
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Shame, though, that Brian Mackin is damned (sometimes roundly, sometimes mildly) while Barbara Humphrey's approving silence doesn't even rate a mention.
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Brian Mackin will never tell the truth because the truth shows his involvement in this entire plot.

He did make the right decision in resigning from AD...but that's about the only right decision he made since the hiring of Bill Clark.
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(01-17-2015 03:04 PM)58-56 Wrote:  Shame, though, that Brian Mackin is damned (sometimes roundly, sometimes mildly) while Barbara Humphrey's approving silence doesn't even rate a mention.

Humphrey has a better chance of doing something than Mackin did & yet she remains silent.

She is the bigger piece of crap in this.
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Getting rid of football was a plan at least two years in the making (you could argue longer with our "great" trustees). Mackin knew what was happening and so did someone else in the athletics department, but for now that may be a rumor and I will say no more because we have enough rumors at the moment. Mackin did however spill the beans to Clark which is why he got fired on the Sunday after the Southern Miss game after ESPN did their article.
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(01-17-2015 03:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 03:04 PM)58-56 Wrote:  Shame, though, that Brian Mackin is damned (sometimes roundly, sometimes mildly) while Barbara Humphrey's approving silence doesn't even rate a mention.

Humphrey has a better chance of doing something than Mackin did & yet she remains silent.

She is the bigger piece of crap in this.

Not going to defend Humphrey but what's the vote against her look like 16-1? So, she isn't going to do anything to jeopardize her husband's job. On one hand I can't blame her, but as a UAB alumni and fan her inaction ticks me off.
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In regards to Smith, it doesn't matter if 99% of the alums at the meeting signed up for the NAS the day of the meeting, the crowd spoke & he did something else.

The verdict should have been one to demand Watts resign & that the programs be reinstated. Instead he gave Watts an out & empowered him some in the process.

Smith had a conflict of interest because Watts "selected" him for this committee.

No way I ever can see myself taking up for Smith in anything, although I would like to be proven wrong.

The longer this goes on without Mackin saying anything, the more likely he had known for quite some time what was going to happen & decided to take the easier way out. We all know how the BOT & Watts act & we all know that Smith Lake was a possibility, but Mackin is the person in this who had the ability to bust this case wide open & has not. Instead we have Izell putting it all out there instead.
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(01-17-2015 02:52 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 02:41 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  I can understand people coming to Mackin's defense. He is an UAB guy, he put in some real work for UAB, and people that know him talk about him being a pretty good guy.

Not to mention he quit his job over this entire thing.

He resigned as AD so that he was not standing in front of the press trying to explain it. My understanding is that he is still on the UAB payroll. That's not exactly laying it on the line in protest.
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(01-17-2015 03:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 03:04 PM)58-56 Wrote:  Shame, though, that Brian Mackin is damned (sometimes roundly, sometimes mildly) while Barbara Humphrey's approving silence doesn't even rate a mention.

Humphrey has a better chance of doing something than Mackin did & yet she remains silent.

She is the bigger piece of crap in this.

Every member of the BoT, past and present, who refuses to speak is complicit. That includes some good people with admirable reputations otherwise. They may be unwilling to rock the boat, they may be afraid, they may be ashamed to speak, they may not see anything wrong about their decisions. PBJ has Humphrey in a vice, and he knew it before she got a seat. Indeed, she would not have gotten a seat if he had no leverage and control. That's how these guys work.

I find it hard to throw stones at any single one of them other than the big manipulators, but I certainly apportion the blame among every single one of them.
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(01-17-2015 03:37 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 03:04 PM)58-56 Wrote:  Shame, though, that Brian Mackin is damned (sometimes roundly, sometimes mildly) while Barbara Humphrey's approving silence doesn't even rate a mention.

Humphrey has a better chance of doing something than Mackin did & yet she remains silent.

She is the bigger piece of crap in this.

We have two UAB representatives on the BOT. One is Crimson through and through and just happened to have finished obtaining her degree from UAB wiper husband was getting an advanced degree here. The other's husband works for Bryant. Those are the only kinds:of representatives will ever get on the board unless the legislature takes action.
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(01-17-2015 04:03 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 02:52 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 02:41 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  I can understand people coming to Mackin's defense. He is an UAB guy, he put in some real work for UAB, and people that know him talk about him being a pretty good guy.

Not to mention he quit his job over this entire thing.

He resigned as AD so that he was not standing in front of the press trying to explain it. My understanding is that he is still on the UAB payroll. That's not exactly laying it on the line in protest.

Responding to Hope….
Not everyone feels that way. I'll leave it at that for now.
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(01-17-2015 04:11 PM)BlazerFire Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 04:03 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 02:52 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(01-17-2015 02:41 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  I can understand people coming to Mackin's defense. He is an UAB guy, he put in some real work for UAB, and people that know him talk about him being a pretty good guy.

Not to mention he quit his job over this entire thing.

He resigned as AD so that he was not standing in front of the press trying to explain it. My understanding is that he is still on the UAB payroll. That's not exactly laying it on the line in protest.

Responding to Hope….
Not everyone feels that way. I'll leave it at that for now.

He will not be a bad guy, when it is all said and done.
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