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(02-03-2015 04:28 PM)Blow Gym rat Wrote:  I think the old tradition was that it was bad luck to play the Victory March before the end of a game. Can anybody confirm?

(Something about the composer being an ancestor of Tom Petty, or somethings).

I have definitely heard this as well
02-03-2015 05:08 PM
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I do wish we'd play it after games instead of the Alma Mater. Our Alma Mater is so lame
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(02-03-2015 04:28 PM)Blow Gym rat Wrote:  I think the old tradition was that it was bad luck to play the Victory March before the end of a game. Can anybody confirm?

(Something about the composer being an ancestor of Tom Petty, or somethings).

It football games, it was always played at halftime.

They used to play at basketball games as well though normally just once.

It's not the kind of song that would replace a fight song, often played. It was designed for a moment in the game.

Kind of like Mason and Living on a Prayer, I think you hold something like this until midway or later in the 2nd Half.
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(02-03-2015 05:16 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  I do wish we'd play it after games instead of the Alma Mater. Our Alma Mater is so lame

I disagree.

I think adding the playing of the Alma Mater at the end of all of our games has been one of the best upgrades we have added in the last 10 years.
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(02-03-2015 08:01 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  
(02-03-2015 05:16 PM)zablenoise Wrote:  I do wish we'd play it after games instead of the Alma Mater. Our Alma Mater is so lame

I disagree.

I think adding the playing of the Alma Mater at the end of all of our games has been one of the best upgrades we have added in the last 10 years.

between a badass original song or a song we ripped off from cornell that roughly 50% of schools use as an alma mater, i will take the badass original song every time
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There's no rule that says you can't do both, far as I know.
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I think the Victory MArch only gets busted out at homecoming now a days
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Quote:Written in 1949 by Rolfe Kennard ('24) and music by Oliver C. Zinmeister, the William and Mary Victory March is a classic, rousing fight song that has since been lost to obscurity.* I can only speculate as to why the pep band almost never plays it--although as a Tribe fan I would hardly be surprised if this enjoyable tradition was simply discarded amid a long lull of administrative indifference.

To give you something to look at, I've paired the tune with a few photos of memorable moments/figures from decades of William and Mary football and men's basketball.

The recording comes from the Swem Library digital archives, and this piece and a collection of other recordings by the now-defunct W&M marching band (remember what I said earlier about discarded traditions?) are available here: https://digitalarchive.wm.edu/handle/...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFIzhwMXoc
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(02-03-2015 10:20 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  




Quote:Written in 1949 by Rolfe Kennard ('24) and music by Oliver C. Zinmeister, the William and Mary Victory March is a classic, rousing fight song that has since been lost to obscurity.* I can only speculate as to why the pep band almost never plays it--although as a Tribe fan I would hardly be surprised if this enjoyable tradition was simply discarded amid a long lull of administrative indifference.

To give you something to look at, I've paired the tune with a few photos of memorable moments/figures from decades of William and Mary football and men's basketball.

The recording comes from the Swem Library digital archives, and this piece and a collection of other recordings by the now-defunct W&M marching band (remember what I said earlier about discarded traditions?) are available here: https://digitalarchive.wm.edu/handle/...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCFIzhwMXoc

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Thanks for posting 78. I have not heard the W&M Victory March since I graduated in 1962. It brings back fond memories. The Pep Band should definately start playing this at least once per game, and at a set time. It also should be played over the loud speaker system at basketball games as the team enters Kaplan Arena at the beginning of the game, and possibly as the team returns to start the second half as well.
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I had a history with Dr Varner and more than a few of the members of the W&M band from the early 1970s.
Fortunately I still keep in touch with a couple of them as friends on Facebook.

Fond memories.
04-cheers
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EDIT: this post is what happens when you reply before reading the whole thread, oh well. haha

(02-03-2015 01:20 AM)zablenoise Wrote:  
(02-03-2015 01:14 AM)Ryuzaki51 Wrote:  That and a colossal gaffe by the UVA Pep Band

By the way, the W&M one still has that big drum with the old Indians logo on it, it's pretty cool

I'd love to hear about this gaffe

they did a skit making fun of WVU in the Continental Tire Bowl...

Quote:...pep band staged a parody of the reality show "The Bachelor," in which a male had his choice of two female contestants, one from WVU and the other from Virginia.

"Well, it's going to be a tough choice for our bachelor, deciding between these two bachelorettes," read the script recited by a stadium announcer.

It described the Virginia student as being bound for medical school with plans to be a pediatrician. It said the WVU student "will be heading to California, out to Beverly ... Hills, that is ... swimming pools, movie stars!" -- a reference to the TV show "The Beverly Hillbillies."

Quote:Even West Virginia Gov. Bob Wise stepped into the fray. On Monday, he fired off a letter to University of Virginia President John T. Casteen calling the performance classless.

"This type of performance merely perpetuates the unfounded stereotypes that we in West Virginia are fighting so hard to overcome," the governor wrote. "The organizers of the Continental Tire Bowl, the city of Charlotte and most especially the people of the state of West Virginia deserve an apology for this unfortunate incident."

http://old.post-gazette.com/localnews/20...0101p2.asp

UVA got a $1.5M donation to start up their marching band and the same people donated $10M more for an indoor practice facility. Same donors have given an additional $20M+ for improvements on the football stadium over the years.
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Pep Band should have the victory march... I just don't think it resonates with anyone that was in school in the last 10+ years.

When I was director someone came over at a basketball game and gave us like $50 or $100 if we would play it at the games. If that was someone on this board, fess up!
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(02-03-2015 11:17 PM)soccerguy315 Wrote:  Pep Band should have the victory march... I just don't think it resonates with anyone that was in school in the last 10+ years.

When I was director someone came over at a basketball game and gave us like $50 or $100 if we would play it at the games. If that was someone on this board, fess up!

Woot, another Pep Band alum!

The Victory March (and the Hymn) are actually still in the books, namely for Homecoming, but I don't recall playing it outside of Homecoming and maybe the occasional gig, never at an athletic event though. There's frankly not a lot of time to play it-typically we do the fight song (skipped if the Tribe loses), alma mater, Zoot Suit Riot (usually only for wins) and at then the drumline starts cadencing if the athletic dept. folks aren't already telling us to pack up.
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The problem is the Victory March is really meant for a more military, precision style marching band. I have heard the Pep Band play it - there is a video from YouTube 2010 at Homecoming - it just doesn't sound very good.

Maybe they can play the downloaded version from Varner's day over the loud speaker.
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Power Ball is up to $315M. Someone here win it, then give W&M the money for a proper marching band.
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The W&M Fight Song has, in truth, become the standard here at William & Mary. No offense to the Victory March.

The Fight Song is a great song and 100% a College product. Written, according to the story, at halftime by a W&M football player. Original title was "Fight, Fight, Fight for The Indians"..and many still sing those words when it is played.

The Pep Band plays it with panache and brio!
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I will wholeheartedly agree. The Fight Song is fantastic. I wish more students knew the words. I think the biggest problem is that it's so dependent on the word "Indians" and "Tribe" doesn't seem to fit.
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Thought I'd attach these for the discussion.

W&M Victory March







Fight Song




Symphony Fight Song




Symphony Alma Mater


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Alma Mater as it should be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMRwJurBp0Y
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Great stuff, Mr.joolius!.
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