(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:00 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel ok about this. MISS State is getting a good coach and it's not on bad terms.

You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

as A WKU that played both schools it was no contest on who had the best DC... either that or talent on defense. But as a WKU fan one of them was clear as day :)

(01-06-2015 01:34 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:00 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel ok about this. MISS State is getting a good coach and it's not on bad terms.

You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

^^^THIS!

(01-06-2015 01:34 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:00 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel ok about this. MISS State is getting a good coach and it's not on bad terms.

You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

as A WKU that played both schools it was no contest on who had the best DC... either that or talent on defense. But as a WKU fan one of them was clear as day :)

I don't know if Marshall did the same or not be we also had some blowouts where we put in a heavy freshman defense that gave up a TD or two.

(01-06-2015 01:44 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:34 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:00 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel ok about this. MISS State is getting a good coach and it's not on bad terms.

You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

as A WKU that played both schools it was no contest on who had the best DC... either that or talent on defense. But as a WKU fan one of them was clear as day :)

I don't know if Marshall did the same or not be we also had some blowouts where we put in a heavy freshman defense that gave up a TD or two.

Just 8 games where we put backups in for the entire 4th quarter in all of them. We did play LaTech and held them to 18. LaTech didn't play LaTech

Seriously though, I'd say they were #1 AND #2 DCs doesn't really matter who was first. I wouldn't include Illinois as the tiebreaker, when we had NIU who scores more points regularly and is considered a better team and conference champion anywhere except in the feebs' minds that eat everything ESPN feeds them about P5>G5.

(01-06-2015 03:47 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:44 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:34 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

as A WKU that played both schools it was no contest on who had the best DC... either that or talent on defense. But as a WKU fan one of them was clear as day :)

I don't know if Marshall did the same or not be we also had some blowouts where we put in a heavy freshman defense that gave up a TD or two.

Just 8 games where we put backups in for the entire 4th quarter in all of them. We did play LaTech and held them to 18. LaTech didn't play LaTech

Seriously though, I'd say they were #1 AND #2 DCs doesn't really matter who was first. I wouldn't include Illinois as the tiebreaker, when we had NIU who scores more points regularly and is considered a better team and conference champion anywhere except in the feebs' minds that eat everything ESPN feeds them about P5>G5.

To be fair UL-L and NIU kind of offset one another so I didn't list either. And while I think most everyone would agree Marshall and Tech had the 2 best defenses....

as a WKU there is no way I could put Marshall before Tech and if we asked 100 fans I think most would list the DC from Tech as the top dog this year.

But does it really matter at this point? one is gone

(01-06-2015 03:47 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:44 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:34 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

as A WKU that played both schools it was no contest on who had the best DC... either that or talent on defense. But as a WKU fan one of them was clear as day :)

I don't know if Marshall did the same or not be we also had some blowouts where we put in a heavy freshman defense that gave up a TD or two.

Just 8 games where we put backups in for the entire 4th quarter in all of them. We did play LaTech and held them to 18. LaTech didn't play LaTech

Seriously though, I'd say they were #1 AND #2 DCs doesn't really matter who was first. I wouldn't include Illinois as the tiebreaker, when we had NIU who scores more points regularly and is considered a better team and conference champion anywhere except in the feebs' minds that eat everything ESPN feeds them about P5>G5.

Diaz was the best DC in the conference. It wasn't even close. You can argue numbers all you want, but its true. No one scored 67 points on us. Not even Auburn or Oklahoma. The guy was a bonafide "Rock Star"

(01-05-2015 07:42 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 02:54 PM)07owl Wrote:  Well, he earned it. Hope La Tech hires as well again

I hear Mark Snyder is looking for work again.

+2

(01-06-2015 09:27 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 03:47 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:44 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:34 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

as A WKU that played both schools it was no contest on who had the best DC... either that or talent on defense. But as a WKU fan one of them was clear as day :)

I don't know if Marshall did the same or not be we also had some blowouts where we put in a heavy freshman defense that gave up a TD or two.

Just 8 games where we put backups in for the entire 4th quarter in all of them. We did play LaTech and held them to 18. LaTech didn't play LaTech

Seriously though, I'd say they were #1 AND #2 DCs doesn't really matter who was first. I wouldn't include Illinois as the tiebreaker, when we had NIU who scores more points regularly and is considered a better team and conference champion anywhere except in the feebs' minds that eat everything ESPN feeds them about P5>G5.

Diaz was the best DC in the conference. It wasn't even close. You can argue numbers all you want, but its true. No one scored 67 points on us. Not even Auburn or Oklahoma. The guy was a bonafide "Rock Star"

Old Dominion

Exactly how many P5 teams did Marshalls D face? MU had a very good D but the competition it faced was rather sparse in talent.














JK. Wanted to get the MU faithful fired up a litte.

(01-06-2015 11:10 AM)Cscollis Wrote:  Exactly how many P5 teams did Marshalls D face? MU had a very good D but the competition it faced was rather sparse in talent.














JK. Wanted to get the MU faithful fired up a litte.

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:00 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel ok about this. MISS State is getting a good coach and it's not on bad terms.

You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

2nd best DC in the conference. Tech fans keep saying that.

(01-06-2015 12:26 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:00 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel ok about this. MISS State is getting a good coach and it's not on bad terms.

You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

2nd best DC in the conference. Tech fans keep saying that.

Held WKU to 10 pts and UTEP to 3. Two of our five bowl teams. That's pretty strong.

(01-06-2015 04:23 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 03:47 AM)MUther Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:44 AM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 01:34 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:32 AM)banker Wrote:  Uh, CUSA total defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

Scoring defense:

1. Marshall
2. La Tech

With that cleared up, Diaz is a very good DC.

If Marshall had played a...

Oklahoma
Auburn
ILL

then total numbers might matter instead Marshall had games vs Rhode Island, Miami Oh, Ohio and Akron

as A WKU that played both schools it was no contest on who had the best DC... either that or talent on defense. But as a WKU fan one of them was clear as day :)

I don't know if Marshall did the same or not be we also had some blowouts where we put in a heavy freshman defense that gave up a TD or two.

Just 8 games where we put backups in for the entire 4th quarter in all of them. We did play LaTech and held them to 18. LaTech didn't play LaTech

Seriously though, I'd say they were #1 AND #2 DCs doesn't really matter who was first. I wouldn't include Illinois as the tiebreaker, when we had NIU who scores more points regularly and is considered a better team and conference champion anywhere except in the feebs' minds that eat everything ESPN feeds them about P5>G5.

To be fair UL-L and NIU kind of offset one another so I didn't list either. And while I think most everyone would agree Marshall and Tech had the 2 best defenses....

as a WKU there is no way I could put Marshall before Tech and if we asked 100 fans I think most would list the DC from Tech as the top dog this year.

But does it really matter at this point? one is gone

Based on 1 game? Marshall outperformed Tech in black and white. I love how SOS suddenly determines how good your defense is too. Whatever helps you make your case right?

It goes down officially, in the record books as MU 1, La Tech #2. We fared better against Rhode island than you did against Northwestern Tech State or whatever it was. Also NIU is much better than Ill.

With a healthy Johnson, we would have competed and porbably won those games against what turned out to be a very mediocre auburn and OU team. I still hate it that Johnson wasnt good for the CUSA title game so we could have laid your defense flat on its back like we did pretty much everyone.

Dixon is still better than Johnson in your guys eyes too, right?

(01-06-2015 12:28 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(01-06-2015 12:26 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:23 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 03:00 PM)Kingkong13 Wrote:  I feel ok about this. MISS State is getting a good coach and it's not on bad terms.

You feel OK about losing the best DC in the conference? And if a coach is leaving a school to take the same job at another place how can it not be on bad terms for the school he left?

2nd best DC in the conference. Tech fans keep saying that.

Held WKU to 10 pts and UTEP to 3. Two of our five bowl teams. That's pretty strong.

Yes he did. But at the 3nd of the day, numbers are black and white and its #1, #2. Thats just the way it is. Thats even including us playing our starters for just 3 quarters in more than half our games.

UTEP had the #105 offense, UNT was #114, UTSA was #119. FAU and FIU were the only two east teams in that range.

La Tech gave up 30 or more points 5 times and gave up 20 or more 11 times. Marshall gave up 30 or more 1 time and 20 or more 5 times. We had a streak of 10 games where we gave up less than 20 9 times.

Anyone who wants to judge up on the WKU game is simply picking the exception and not the rule. They scored 67 on us and the second highest total we gave up all year was 27. That's why the first half of that game was such a headscrather. Their QB simply played a perfect half of football.

Likewise, anyone who wants to judge La Tech off their WKU game is also looking at the exception. You gave up more points to a lot worse offenses than WKU. I chalk it up to a bad day by their QB.

Not sure why you guys are arguing here. Marshal won the conference fair and square so there is no need to argue whose D is first or second.

(01-06-2015 03:21 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  Not sure why you guys are arguing here. Marshal won the conference fair and square so there is no need to argue whose D is first or second.

All I know is if MT ever gets around to playing La Tech; we won't have to face the BEST DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR EVER to walk on the BLUE RAIDERS sidelines. Condolences to LA Tech on your loss. Congratulations to the rest of us.

(01-05-2015 06:01 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 05:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(01-05-2015 05:25 PM)RonBurgundy Wrote:  Like GermDawg said, I'm worried about the staff makeup after Manny's departure. I'm hoping Oscar Giles hangs around but I imagine he'll head to Starkvegas with Diaz. Why is this crap always so close to signing day

That was what I mostly meant when I asked how can a fan be OK with this...

football recruiting is different than basketball. Most of the time a football recruit will have a strong relationship with the position coach and DC/OC. So it hurts more than if you lose a basketball asst coach where the main relationship is usually tied to the4 head man.

And if you lose any recruits because a DC takes another job most of the time it's going to be one of your best recruits..best on paper.

Not worried about losing a recruit or 2 from this. For every recruit we lose means more room for SEC and BIG graduated seniors come in and play. JK.

All I can say is thank you coach Diaz and if you ever need to come back Tech will welcome you back. Most fun D I ever watched and hopefully one of the D assistants was taking notes so the drop off wont be as bad. I hope the new DC preaches accountability like Diaz did. Our D scored or directly caused more than 200 points for us this season. Time for Holtz to pull off some magic trick and bring in buddy ryan.

Bring in an 83 year old man who hasn't coached in 20 years would be a bold choice.

I'm pretty happy with Heater... You can have Diaz...Not saying he isn't awesome, I'm just so pleased with what Heater has done with the Herd... From 2012 to 2013, Herd opponents scored an average of something like 17 points les per game... Pretty hard to top that.

As good of a D-Coordinator as he is, I think Manny will be an even better head coach.

He'd be a good O-Coordinator if he wanted to be on that side of the ball.

Charisma, energy, media saavy, money raiser, baby kisser, heart-throb to the female fans-- All of the Above.

I'd love to see him in Murfreesboro as our head coach one day, but that ship may have already passed, unfortunately.