(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Maybe our resident racist Kreskin can tell us why these white people killed a couple innocent cops?
Sheriff's office: Las Vegas couple saw police as oppressors

The story says why - the cops were seen as oppressors. Race wasn't involved.

That's the whole point here Steve. We don't know what the guy was doing. But that didn't stop the OP from saying why he shot and that it was somehow the fault of Obama, Holder AND Sharpton.

(12-29-2014 03:21 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  1. So because Obama's elections didn't reduce racial tension, it's his fault?

Again, when Obama told the protestors to "stay the course"... he has to take some of the fault of the retaliations.

(but that's as far as my criticism of Obama will go on the current rash of attacks on Police officers).

Quote:2. Are we upset that cops are being killed or that black people are killing them?

It's not just black people doing this..don't forget some white kid protestor in Ferguson got arrested remember for breaking into a gun shop, stealing guns (to sell and to use) on police officers in St. Louis.

Some context, as apparently you read the conservative take on this supposed "stay the course" comment.

Here is what Sharpton actually said that Obama imparted to them.

Quote:According to the Rev. Al Sharpton, who has appeared frequently in St. Louis with the Brown family and delivered a speech at Mr. Brown’s funeral, Mr. Obama “was concerned about Ferguson staying on course in terms of pursuing what it was that he knew we were advocating. He said he hopes that we’re doing all we can to keep peace.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/us/gro....html?_r=1

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  1. So because Obama's elections didn't reduce racial tension, it's his fault?

When you promise to do something only to make matters worse, then yes, it's Obama's fault.

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  2. Are we upset that cops are being killed or that black people are killing them?

We're upset when anyone gets killed. But it's hunting season for cops. Thanks Obama. Thanks Sharpton.

1. So where and when did he exactly say he would reduce racial tension. I've heard this a lot but have never actually seen it.

Steve?

(12-29-2014 04:18 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Some context, as apparently you read the conservative take on this supposed "stay the course" comment.

Here is what Sharpton actually said that Obama imparted to them.

Tom, trust me.. not one of the LOCAL media outlets in St. Louis are FAR to the conservative side of the spectrum on news reporting (all the TV stations and papers fall to that slant.). the only conservative local choice around here is 97.1FM (and I don't listen to the radio when I'm at home).

Besides, my anger was vented at one person and it wasn't Obama .. it was Governor Nixon.

1) Nixon
2) State Senator Jamillah Nasheed
3) Maria Chappelle-Nadal
Eric Holder would probably fall 4th on the list.

Those are the clowns that if ERC wants to go after on every post... I'd cheer him on.

(12-29-2014 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Maybe our resident racist Kreskin can tell us why these white people killed a couple innocent cops?
Sheriff's office: Las Vegas couple saw police as oppressors

The story says why - the cops were seen as oppressors. Race wasn't involved.

That's the whole point here Steve. We don't know what the guy was doing. But that didn't stop the OP from saying why he shot and that it was somehow the fault of Obama, Holder AND Sharpton.

Wake up to reality. Those three have fed the hate against the police and only a leftist like you would deny that fact.

(12-29-2014 06:15 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Maybe our resident racist Kreskin can tell us why these white people killed a couple innocent cops?
Sheriff's office: Las Vegas couple saw police as oppressors

The story says why - the cops were seen as oppressors. Race wasn't involved.

That's the whole point here Steve. We don't know what the guy was doing. But that didn't stop the OP from saying why he shot and that it was somehow the fault of Obama, Holder AND Sharpton.

Wake up to reality. Those three have fed the hate against the police and only a leftist like you would deny that fact.

Reality you say...so I can now fault Palin for the shooting of Giffords?
Sarah Palin's 'Crosshairs' Ad Dominates Gabrielle Giffords Debate

Yeah...didn't think so. NEXT!

(12-29-2014 06:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:15 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Maybe our resident racist Kreskin can tell us why these white people killed a couple innocent cops?
Sheriff's office: Las Vegas couple saw police as oppressors

The story says why - the cops were seen as oppressors. Race wasn't involved.

That's the whole point here Steve. We don't know what the guy was doing. But that didn't stop the OP from saying why he shot and that it was somehow the fault of Obama, Holder AND Sharpton.

Wake up to reality. Those three have fed the hate against the police and only a leftist like you would deny that fact.

Reality you say...so I can now fault Palin for the shooting of Giffords?
Sarah Palin's 'Crosshairs' Ad Dominates Gabrielle Giffords Debate

Yeah...didn't think so. NEXT!

Last time I checked Palin wasn't the President of the United States, the Attorney General of the United States or a Special Advisor to the President. Nice try, but as usual you fail.

(12-29-2014 03:29 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  [quote='Fitbud' pid='11598438' dateline='1419882831']
1. So because Obama's elections didn't reduce racial tension, it's his fault?

When you promise to do something only to make matters worse, then yes, it's Obama's fault.

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  2. Are we upset that cops are being killed or that black people are killing them?

We're upset when anyone gets killed. But it's hunting season for cops. Thanks Obama. Thanks Sharpton.
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1. So where and when did he exactly say he would reduce racial tension. I've heard this a lot but have never actually seen it.

2. So you don't thing those officers shooting unarmed men had anything to do with it?

Are you trying to say that the Ferguson and NYC incidents warrant people shooting policemen anywhere in the country that obviously are totally unrelated?

"So, I think what those cops did there wasn't right, so I'll go downtown in my city and shoot a couple as retribution? "

You really believe that's a valid way to go?

It doesn't warrant it but it is the reason people are shooting cops.

(12-29-2014 07:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:29 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  [quote='Fitbud' pid='11598438' dateline='1419882831']
1. So because Obama's elections didn't reduce racial tension, it's his fault?

When you promise to do something only to make matters worse, then yes, it's Obama's fault.

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  2. Are we upset that cops are being killed or that black people are killing them?

We're upset when anyone gets killed. But it's hunting season for cops. Thanks Obama. Thanks Sharpton.
[/
1. So where and when did he exactly say he would reduce racial tension. I've heard this a lot but have never actually seen it.

2. So you don't thing those officers shooting unarmed men had anything to do with it?

Are you trying to say that the Ferguson and NYC incidents warrant people shooting policemen anywhere in the country that obviously are totally unrelated?

"So, I think what those cops did there wasn't right, so I'll go downtown in my city and shoot a couple as retribution? "

You really believe that's a valid way to go?

It doesn't warrant it but it is the reason people are shooting cops.

The reason police are shooting cops is because leftists like you, Obama, Holder and Sharpton have driven the hate towards police to a level that some deranged people believe your propaganda and act on it.

(12-29-2014 07:48 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:29 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:04 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  [quote='Fitbud' pid='11598438' dateline='1419882831']
1. So because Obama's elections didn't reduce racial tension, it's his fault?

When you promise to do something only to make matters worse, then yes, it's Obama's fault.

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  2. Are we upset that cops are being killed or that black people are killing them?

We're upset when anyone gets killed. But it's hunting season for cops. Thanks Obama. Thanks Sharpton.
[/
1. So where and when did he exactly say he would reduce racial tension. I've heard this a lot but have never actually seen it.

2. So you don't thing those officers shooting unarmed men had anything to do with it?

Are you trying to say that the Ferguson and NYC incidents warrant people shooting policemen anywhere in the country that obviously are totally unrelated?

"So, I think what those cops did there wasn't right, so I'll go downtown in my city and shoot a couple as retribution? "

You really believe that's a valid way to go?

It doesn't warrant it but it is the reason people are shooting cops.

The reason police are shooting cops is because leftists like you, Obama, Holder and Sharpton have driven the hate towards police to a level that some deranged people believe your propaganda and act on it.

Would you as a conservative take responsibility if someone tried to assassinate Obama, with all of the hatred that some members of the right wing spew at the president?

(12-29-2014 07:52 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:48 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:29 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  When you promise to do something only to make matters worse, then yes, it's Obama's fault.


We're upset when anyone gets killed. But it's hunting season for cops. Thanks Obama. Thanks Sharpton.
[/
1. So where and when did he exactly say he would reduce racial tension. I've heard this a lot but have never actually seen it.

2. So you don't thing those officers shooting unarmed men had anything to do with it?

Are you trying to say that the Ferguson and NYC incidents warrant people shooting policemen anywhere in the country that obviously are totally unrelated?

"So, I think what those cops did there wasn't right, so I'll go downtown in my city and shoot a couple as retribution? "

You really believe that's a valid way to go?

It doesn't warrant it but it is the reason people are shooting cops.

The reason police are shooting cops is because leftists like you, Obama, Holder and Sharpton have driven the hate towards police to a level that some deranged people believe your propaganda and act on it.

Would you as a conservative take responsibility if someone tried to assassinate Obama, with all of the hatred that some members of the right wing spew at the president?

Big difference. It is the President himself that has driven much of the hate towards the police. Along with his Attorney General and special advisor Sharpton. Both left and right have zealots that act like nuts, but the left right now has people in positions of authority that are motivating deranged people to act. Big difference.

(12-29-2014 08:22 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:52 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:48 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 03:29 PM)Crebman Wrote:  
Are you trying to say that the Ferguson and NYC incidents warrant people shooting policemen anywhere in the country that obviously are totally unrelated?

"So, I think what those cops did there wasn't right, so I'll go downtown in my city and shoot a couple as retribution? "

You really believe that's a valid way to go?

It doesn't warrant it but it is the reason people are shooting cops.

The reason police are shooting cops is because leftists like you, Obama, Holder and Sharpton have driven the hate towards police to a level that some deranged people believe your propaganda and act on it.

Would you as a conservative take responsibility if someone tried to assassinate Obama, with all of the hatred that some members of the right wing spew at the president?

Big difference. It is the President himself that has driven much of the hate towards the police. Along with his Attorney General and special advisor Sharpton. Both left and right have zealots that act like nuts, but the left right now has people in positions of authority that are motivating deranged people to act. Big difference.

How is it different, many on the right spew hatred at Obama. You say Obama and cronies spew hatred at the police. Not sure how that is different.

(12-29-2014 08:32 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:22 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:52 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:48 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:22 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It doesn't warrant it but it is the reason people are shooting cops.

The reason police are shooting cops is because leftists like you, Obama, Holder and Sharpton have driven the hate towards police to a level that some deranged people believe your propaganda and act on it.

Would you as a conservative take responsibility if someone tried to assassinate Obama, with all of the hatred that some members of the right wing spew at the president?

Big difference. It is the President himself that has driven much of the hate towards the police. Along with his Attorney General and special advisor Sharpton. Both left and right have zealots that act like nuts, but the left right now has people in positions of authority that are motivating deranged people to act. Big difference.

How is it different, many on the right spew hatred at Obama. You say Obama and cronies spew hatred at the police. Not sure how that is different.

Simple. Who has more power to influence people? Some right wing nut on the internet or the President of the United States. Not to mention his Attorney General and special Presidential advisor. If you don't understand that, you are just a leftist ideologue and will not admit the truth.

(12-29-2014 08:39 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:32 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 08:22 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:52 PM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 07:48 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  The reason police are shooting cops is because leftists like you, Obama, Holder and Sharpton have driven the hate towards police to a level that some deranged people believe your propaganda and act on it.

Would you as a conservative take responsibility if someone tried to assassinate Obama, with all of the hatred that some members of the right wing spew at the president?

Big difference. It is the President himself that has driven much of the hate towards the police. Along with his Attorney General and special advisor Sharpton. Both left and right have zealots that act like nuts, but the left right now has people in positions of authority that are motivating deranged people to act. Big difference.

How is it different, many on the right spew hatred at Obama. You say Obama and cronies spew hatred at the police. Not sure how that is different.

Simple. Who has more power to influence people? Some right wing nut on the internet or the President of the United States. Not to mention his Attorney General and special Presidential advisor. If you don't understand that, you are just a leftist ideologue and will not admit the truth.

As evidenced by saying that I would vote for Scott Walker in a different thread.

As to the point, there are plenty of power members of the right wing that have made much more powerful statements of hate against Obama than Obama has used against the police. Rush, Hannity, Beck to name a few.

Notice, none of them have called for violence against the president, and guess what the president has not called for violence against the police. But there are influential people on the right who have said worse about Obama, than Obama has against the police.

As a small government person, I do find it hilarious that Obama says anything against the police, seeing as they are in place to enforce his rule.

(12-29-2014 06:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:15 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Maybe our resident racist Kreskin can tell us why these white people killed a couple innocent cops?
Sheriff's office: Las Vegas couple saw police as oppressors

The story says why - the cops were seen as oppressors. Race wasn't involved.

That's the whole point here Steve. We don't know what the guy was doing. But that didn't stop the OP from saying why he shot and that it was somehow the fault of Obama, Holder AND Sharpton.

Wake up to reality. Those three have fed the hate against the police and only a leftist like you would deny that fact.

Reality you say...so I can now fault Palin for the shooting of Giffords?
Sarah Palin's 'Crosshairs' Ad Dominates Gabrielle Giffords Debate

Yeah...didn't think so. NEXT!

The Shooter was a registered Independent with very left leaning beliefs according to people that knew him. And He was a mental case .also there is a topic brought up where Words do have consequences

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/01/...e-liberal/

In all fairness let's recognize the fact that this is Durham we are talking about. The only thing that makes this news is that .........well it really isn't news since this is Durham we are talking about. Everybody is taking shot at everybody there. I feel safer on Bragg Blvd in Fayetteville or in a meth lab barn in Johnston County than I do in most places in Durham.

Recent Parolee Charged In Shooting Of Off-Duty St. Louis Police Officer



The officer was targeted.

Quote: A recent parolee has been charged in the shooting last weekend of an off-duty St. Louis police officer in the city’s Hyde Park neighborhood.

Authorities said the officer was critically injured Dec. 19 in a gunfight with people in a car driven by the parolee, Dominic Lamont Irons, 29, of the 2800 block of Delmar Boulevard.

A court document says one of the others in the car was killed in the shootout. At least one other person was still being sought by police.

Irons was charged Saturday with assault, armed criminal action and unlawful use of a weapon. The circuit attorney’s office said he also was charged with second-degree murder in connection with the death of the accomplice.

According to a court document, Irons and the others in the car followed the officer’s truck for the purpose of shooting him.

As the officer pulled to the curb in the 3800 block of North 25th Street and began to get out of his truck, Irons drove alongside and someone in the car shot at the officer.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime...4d788.html

(12-29-2014 09:31 PM)CardFan1 Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:21 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 06:15 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 04:14 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(12-29-2014 02:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  The story says why - the cops were seen as oppressors. Race wasn't involved.

That's the whole point here Steve. We don't know what the guy was doing. But that didn't stop the OP from saying why he shot and that it was somehow the fault of Obama, Holder AND Sharpton.

Wake up to reality. Those three have fed the hate against the police and only a leftist like you would deny that fact.

Reality you say...so I can now fault Palin for the shooting of Giffords?
Sarah Palin's 'Crosshairs' Ad Dominates Gabrielle Giffords Debate

Yeah...didn't think so. NEXT!

The Shooter was a registered Independent with very left leaning beliefs according to people that knew him. And He was a mental case .also there is a topic brought up where Words do have consequences

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/01/...e-liberal/

Leftists don't like guns

Great racist news title.

(12-30-2014 12:38 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Great racist news title.

lmao, god y'all have lost grip with reality