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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
Thank you sir solomon
12-23-2014 06:55 PM
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CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
Did I read that right? Carr and co. projected UAB would remain in CUSA? What planet are they living on? There were published reports already that CUSA would likely NOT keep UAB because they didn't have enough votes. That's nothing more than a gamble and a big one at that.

I also find it laughable that they project some loss in donations but then a quick up-tick. On what basis? You think people will just get over this?

Also puzzled by the essential claim that this wasn't financial when in fact that's exactly how this was sold. How can they claim we will be more competitive? Donations will be down, likely heading to lower tier conference, potential to lose players or coaches in remaining sports.
12-23-2014 07:08 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
How much of a scholarship is an actual cash expense? So for the accountants if there was a reconciliation to cash how much would be added back?
12-23-2014 07:09 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
This report is a joke. How much did this elementary analysis cost the university or did the BOT pay for this hatchet job?
12-23-2014 07:19 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 07:19 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  This report is a joke. How much did this elementary analysis cost the university or did the BOT pay for this hatchet job?

according to Jon Solomon's tweet about 79,000 dollars since Nov 2013.
12-23-2014 07:21 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 05:43 PM)BlazrDawg Wrote:  The guy you most want to link to this stuff probably doesnt even own a computer and operates by phone and behind closed doors via winks and nods.

And in many cases he does so for exactly the reasons expressed here. Short of a wiretap you're not going to be able to connect him to anything. Cutouts and intermediaries do the order giving and dirty work once they get their marching orders.
12-23-2014 07:21 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 06:06 PM)UABGrad Wrote:  Solomon posted the full Carr report

http://www.cbssports.com/images/collegef...Sports.pdf

Whoa...

Well it IS bigger than 16 pages, but it's just a bunch of copy-pasta from Excel. Really now? No consideration of contingency even considered. It's like these figures exist in a vacuum, which of course, they don't!
12-23-2014 07:25 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
Some tidbits:

Basketball re-seating is coming to increase revenue.
No baseball games at Regions.
$225,000 decrease in band budget.
12-23-2014 07:32 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 07:32 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Some tidbits:

Basketball re-seating is coming to increase revenue.
No baseball games at Regions.
$225,000 decrease in band budget.

Yeah, that'll help keep the band going strong as they march at all those track and field outings.

Morons.
12-23-2014 07:35 PM
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(12-23-2014 07:32 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Some tidbits:

Basketball re-seating is coming to increase revenue.
No baseball games at Regions.
$225,000 decrease in band budget.

The UAB Band Director was told by Ray Watts that there would be NO CHANGES to funding for the Band Program. If this is true, then Ray Watts lied to the band director.
12-23-2014 07:52 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
Wait, no more UAB baseball at Regions Field? That sucks...
12-23-2014 07:56 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 07:52 PM)BandGrad Wrote:  
(12-23-2014 07:32 PM)BeliefBlazer Wrote:  Some tidbits:

Basketball re-seating is coming to increase revenue.
No baseball games at Regions.
$225,000 decrease in band budget.

The UAB Band Director was told by Ray Watts that there would be NO CHANGES to funding for the Band Program. If this is true, then Ray Watts lied to the band director.

And by extension, lying to my kid.

He cannot stay president of my school.
12-23-2014 07:57 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 07:19 PM)kdblazer Wrote:  This report is a joke. How much did this elementary analysis cost the university or did the BOT pay for this hatchet job?

My $$$$'s on the latter.
12-23-2014 08:06 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 07:56 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Wait, no more UAB baseball at Regions Field? That sucks...

Where was that mentioned? I did notice the investment in a baseball renovation (which makes no sense now that we can play all but 1-2 series there).

And mixdup makes another good point: where is the multi-million investment in the flagship program, men's basketball? Hint: they don't care if we move to a low major league.
12-23-2014 08:21 PM
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(12-23-2014 08:21 PM)FNblazer Wrote:  Where was that mentioned? I did notice the investment in a baseball renovation (which makes no sense now that we can play all but 1-2 series there).

Exhibit 2, Page 1. Under revenue: Baseball - flat sales with no games at Region Field
12-23-2014 08:28 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
I have it from an authority that the band will not be impacted at all.
12-23-2014 08:28 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
1. Carr needs to be dragged out into the open over this. How the hell have they escaped pibluc scrutiny this far?

2. If this was Watts unilateral decision, which he has basically admitted to and this story supports, he should be given the no confidence vote. If he was instructed by others, oh lets say the BOT, he has violated even more rules and should be forced out for that. Either way, he and the board have painted themselves into a corner over this. Its time to hold their feet to the fire.
12-23-2014 08:29 PM
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RE: CBS Sports: Study banks on healing, assumptions, no facts
(12-23-2014 08:28 PM)notnow Wrote:  I have it from an authority that the band will not be impacted at all.

Maybe not, but it's in the report as an assumption.

Exhibit 2, Page 10.
2014-15 Budget $450,000
2015-16 Budget $225,000
12-23-2014 08:31 PM
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If you run band members off, not as much money is needed is their thought.
12-23-2014 08:32 PM
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(12-23-2014 08:28 PM)notnow Wrote:  I have it from an authority that the band will not be impacted at all.

Assuming your authority is someone in the music program, where did they get said assurance?

And if you don't think the marching band will be impacted, just count the number of freshmen we marched this year, then count the number we march next year.
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