(12-07-2014 11:34 PM)TXSTCAT Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:38 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:28 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Stadium Commission is behind it and the Arkansas Rice Federation and Riceland Foods had already signed on as sponsors. The problem was with TV.

What exactly was the issue and what needs to be done to knock that out of the way?

I'm with you and agree to the earlier post about Houston. It's a great location easy for each Western team to access. Also one of the latest TV markets in the US. Why not give it a shot. Also plenty of companies to sponsor.

Either one will do.

I do wonder though... That would be what? 7 bowls in Texas? That's a rather large percentage of bowls in one state. Might be at a saturation point.

(12-07-2014 10:38 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:28 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Stadium Commission is behind it and the Arkansas Rice Federation and Riceland Foods had already signed on as sponsors. The problem was with TV.

What exactly was the issue and what needs to be done to knock that out of the way?

Need for Sun Belt and whatever league agree to play the game on a network not owned by ESPN.

(12-07-2014 10:36 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:29 PM)lcitsh Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 08:43 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  We have to find someplace to host a western bowl or get tie-ins with already existing bowls. There don't seem to be too many places to start a new western bowl. War Memorial in Little Rock seems ripe for it, but they don't seem motivated enough.

What can be done to make an additional western bowl happen? There needs to be a full court press on this issue.

There are three major things I understand are needed to have another bowl for the conference:
1. Money
2. You must have a certain number of teams bowl eligible in your conference over a three year period to qualify for X number of bowls.
3. You must have another conference to tie-in with your bowl.

The Sun Belt had the first two squared away for a bowl in Little Rock, but could not get any other conference to agree to a tie-in. The MAC did not want a third tie-in with the SBC and the AAC wants to see how the Cure Bowl works out for them.

I remember some CUSA fans turning up their nose at a CUSA/SBC tied bowl before the year started. I wonder if that may change now? For MTSU fans maybe.

I don't know. MT is 6-6 and most of the fans don't feel like there was a snub. When you're G5, 6-6 isn't gonna cut it most of the time.

(12-08-2014 01:51 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  I don't know. MT is 6-6 and most of the fans don't feel like there was a snub. When you're G5, 6-6 isn't gonna cut it most of the time.

Yeah, I can understand that.

(12-08-2014 01:51 AM)BlueRaider0x0 Wrote:  I don't know. MT is 6-6 and most of the fans don't feel like there was a snub. When you're G5, 6-6 isn't gonna cut it most of the time.

Only problem is, we are 7-5. I think many feel a snub because 6-6 USA got an invite while we did not. Only problem, our 7th win? It's over the nationally known powerhouse that is UAPB.

Not exactly a world shaker.

Well I hear Middle got snubbed too, so being in C USA did not help them.

Cajuns got snubbed a number of years back by the Indy Bowl when LTU lobbied hared not to invite us, and instead NIU got that bid. Cajuns got snubbed in 2005 only because MOANrow was not bowl eligible and stAte played at Cajun Field for NOLA bowl while NOLA was in disaster mode. Cajuns got snubbed in Big West.

My point is to TxSt get used to being snubbed as a member of the non P5 a lot of things have to fall into place for you to get that bowl, even if you are a lot better than someone going to another bowl.

(12-07-2014 10:19 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Houston would be worth considering but I'd say BBVA Compass Stadium would be a better pick.

Why do you think so? I know nothing of Compass Stadium, so I can't really say one way or another.

Its a nice new stadium with the Houston Skyline in the background. My only concern is that it holds 22,000. I think Reliant is too big and BBVA would be too small.

The current rumors as to why we were passed over:

1. Bowl reps at the stAte game, and were not impressed with the turnout.

OR

2. UH lobbied HARD to keep from having us in the Armed Forces Bowl. (We play them in September)

Dunno if either is true or not... Just some possible causes of our not being invited.

(12-08-2014 10:13 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:19 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Houston would be worth considering but I'd say BBVA Compass Stadium would be a better pick.

Why do you think so? I know nothing of Compass Stadium, so I can't really say one way or another.

Its a nice new stadium with the Houston Skyline in the background. My only concern is that it holds 22,000. I think Reliant is too big and BBVA would be too small.

BBVA is a great size if its two G5s playing each other. No different then Cameilla or NM Bowl.

(12-08-2014 10:18 AM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  The current rumors as to why we were passed over:

1. Bowl reps at the stAte game, and were not impressed with the turnout.

OR

2. UH lobbied HARD to keep from having us in the Armed Forces Bowl. (We play them in September)

Dunno if either is true or not... Just some possible causes of our not being invited.

More like OU lost. Hard to say what would have been otherwise.

Is there any way to 'steal' a bowl away from another conference? If it looks like they can get more fans to a game from the SBC vs a MWC or CUSA team then maybe they would sign on with the SBC instead. Don't they renew contracts every few years for bowls?

IF (I don't know if there is) there is a bowl game in Texas that has an agreement with the MAC then it would be miles better for them to sign with the SBC and have the MAC as a backup. Hopefully this happens (or a new bowl in Texas or Ark). That would give the SBC 5 bowls. With most being within travel distance to SBC schools for the fans.
I really think the new Cure bowl is looking at GS as a 1st pick and depending how we travel could turn into another UL and New Orleans Bowl situation. The SBC needs one more bowl out west for those schools. Lets start a petition.

Armed Forces is an ESPN owned bowl. ESPN owns 100% of the TV rights of the ACC. Taking Pitt wasn't any plan orchestrated by Houston, it was ESPN protecting its investment in the ACC.

(12-08-2014 11:13 AM)slycat Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:13 AM)chrisattsu Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:19 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(12-07-2014 10:03 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Houston would be worth considering but I'd say BBVA Compass Stadium would be a better pick.

Why do you think so? I know nothing of Compass Stadium, so I can't really say one way or another.

Its a nice new stadium with the Houston Skyline in the background. My only concern is that it holds 22,000. I think Reliant is too big and BBVA would be too small.

BBVA is a great size if its two G5s playing each other. No different then Cameilla or NM Bowl.

Why not instead go to UH's stadium? Closer to 50k in seating, still in Houston, and they need all the funds they can get.

UH Stadium isn't a bad idea if AAC is looking to add a game.

this is the main thing I miss about FCS. To get into the playoffs, you win your conference, or be good enough to get an at large. Then at that point, home field advantage is determined by your seeding 1st, then by the proposal you submit to show attendance, revenue $, etc.

(12-08-2014 12:36 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  this is the main thing I miss about FCS. To get into the playoffs, you win your conference, or be good enough to get an at large. Then at that point, home field advantage is determined by your seeding 1st, then by the proposal you submit to show attendance, revenue $, etc.

I don't think anyone will argue with you that FBS needs a playoffs.

Its just the money doesn't want that playoff yet, and money wins all arguments.

(12-08-2014 01:01 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 12:36 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  this is the main thing I miss about FCS. To get into the playoffs, you win your conference, or be good enough to get an at large. Then at that point, home field advantage is determined by your seeding 1st, then by the proposal you submit to show attendance, revenue $, etc.

I don't think anyone will argue with you that FBS needs a playoffs.

Its just the money doesn't want that playoff yet, and money wins all arguments.

oh absolutely.

Just cut the season back 3 weeks and make it a 64 team tournament like basketball and be done with it

And then all the G5s left out can do their 8-16 tournament of the NIT

10 Conference Champs...6 at large. That is not what the money wants....but that is what the sport needs.