I'm a UK fan, having lived in the Lexington area for 11 years. I've been shocked at the amount of money that's being thrown around to the coaching staff at UK. Last week Cal got a new contract that will pay around 8 million a year. Then it was just announced that all the assistants got huge bumps as well.

http://www.courier-journal.com/story/spo.../27945407/

Coach Payne will make $700,000 a year. The 3 assistants will combine to make 1.4 million. I'm no math major, but that puts salaries around 9.4 million a year. I know coach Cal heels to increase the profile of the school and helps with revenue, but I find it troubling that one of the poorest states in the country is paying almost 10 million in coaches salaries.

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Does the school pay for the salaries or do boosters? If you want to make some noise then contact political figures about your concern on taxpayers funding the cost of salaries for athletics at public universities.

The school is part of the state government and pays the salaries. And those numbers are just the ones above the table. This is Cal we are talking about after all.

But how much money is brought into the school due to his direct influence? I don't blame him for taking the money for sure. If the school makes enough through basketball money to cover his salary plus run the program, I see no problem.

Something does seem out of kilter when coaches and pro players make those huge salaries and nurses, educators, police and fire responders make their much less compensation. We've got an out of balance system when those in the entertainment business receive income that dwarfs life and safety personnel.

I don't think something is wrong with teachers, nurses, etc. making less than movie stars, athletes, etc. It is just the free market and capitalism at work. Those individual professions get paid like that because that's what the economy says they are worth. Could you imagine how much more college would cost if professors got paid like athletes? Or think of how much more taxes you'd pay for "free" public schooling. Medical expenses are already ridiculously high but imagine nurses being paid double what they are. If teachers got so much more money than they do today, I think many people would go to school to be teachers and then they'd either be looking for jobs that aren't there (too much supply and not enough demand) or it would severely hurt our economy as many want to be instructors without having the real life experience to back it up. But that's a rabbit hole for another thread so sorry for the slight off-topic.

(05-28-2015 05:58 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I don't think something is wrong with teachers, nurses, etc. making less than movie stars, athletes, etc. It is just the free market and capitalism at work. Those individual professions get paid like that because that's what the economy says they are worth. Could you imagine how much more college would cost if professors got paid like athletes? Or think of how much more taxes you'd pay for "free" public schooling. Medical expenses are already ridiculously high but imagine nurses being paid double what they are. If teachers got so much more money than they do today, I think many people would go to school to be teachers and then they'd either be looking for jobs that aren't there (too much supply and not enough demand) or it would severely hurt our economy as many want to be instructors without having the real life experience to back it up. But that's a rabbit hole for another thread so sorry for the slight off-topic.

You have focused on upping the salaries of teachers, nurses, etc. Look at it from another perspective, reducing what athletes and entertainers receive. We control this. We cannot get enough of movies and professional sports. Until we do, until we say enough is enough and stop going, until we stop worshiping the ground these people walk on, their income will continue to rise.

I for one believe that public school teachers, firemen, police officers etc. are fairly compensated. They must think so as well. Again, all it takes is for there to be no educators, no firemen, no police officers, and their wages will skyrocket.

It's easy to hear the complaints of people saying they need more money, I ask, who doesn't say this? Just because you wouldn't work in these professions with the wages they are offered, clearly doesn't mean that there are not people who will. It's not all about the money.

My daughter attends a charter school, the teachers are paid roughly 10% less than the public school teachers. They receive no pension and no where near the benefits the pubic school teachers receive, however, there is no lack of teachers wanting to be employed at this school. These students are the cream of the crop. They have parents who care. It's not a bunch of spoiled kids like at the private schools. It's not a bunch of kids who are raised by a single parent like at the public schools. Sure their are a few of both the spoiled as well as a few of the single parent kids, but they are so over shadowed by kids being raised in the traditional family unit with $50k - $100K of household income with parents who desire to be involved in the education of their children. No wonder teachers are willing to take less... This is the free market at its best.

(05-28-2015 07:05 AM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(05-28-2015 05:58 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I don't think something is wrong with teachers, nurses, etc. making less than movie stars, athletes, etc. It is just the free market and capitalism at work. Those individual professions get paid like that because that's what the economy says they are worth. Could you imagine how much more college would cost if professors got paid like athletes? Or think of how much more taxes you'd pay for "free" public schooling. Medical expenses are already ridiculously high but imagine nurses being paid double what they are. If teachers got so much more money than they do today, I think many people would go to school to be teachers and then they'd either be looking for jobs that aren't there (too much supply and not enough demand) or it would severely hurt our economy as many want to be instructors without having the real life experience to back it up. But that's a rabbit hole for another thread so sorry for the slight off-topic.

You have focused on upping the salaries of teachers, nurses, etc. Look at it from another perspective, reducing what athletes and entertainers receive. We control this. We cannot get enough of movies and professional sports. Until we do, until we say enough is enough and stop going, until we stop worshiping the ground these people walk on, their income will continue to rise.

I for one believe that public school teachers, firemen, police officers etc. are fairly compensated. They must think so as well. Again, all it takes is for there to be no educators, no firemen, no police officers, and their wages will skyrocket.

It's easy to hear the complaints of people saying they need more money, I ask, who doesn't say this? Just because you wouldn't work in these professions with the wages they are offered, clearly doesn't mean that there are not people who will. It's not all about the money.

My daughter attends a charter school, the teachers are paid roughly 10% less than the public school teachers. They receive no pension and no where near the benefits the pubic school teachers receive, however, there is no lack of teachers wanting to be employed at this school. These students are the cream of the crop. They have parents who care. It's not a bunch of spoiled kids like at the private schools. It's not a bunch of kids who are raised by a single parent like at the public schools. Sure their are a few of both the spoiled as well as a few of the single parent kids, but they are so over shadowed by kids being raised in the traditional family unit with $50k - $100K of household income with parents who desire to be involved in the education of their children. No wonder teachers are willing to take less... This is the free market at its best.

I agree with all that is said here. I didn't intend to not include what you said about the athletes and movie stars but I simply forgot. Good job picking up the slack.

(05-28-2015 05:58 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I don't think something is wrong with teachers, nurses, etc. making less than movie stars, athletes, etc. It is just the free market and capitalism at work. Those individual professions get paid like that because that's what the economy says they are worth. Could you imagine how much more college would cost if professors got paid like athletes? Or think of how much more taxes you'd pay for "free" public schooling. Medical expenses are already ridiculously high but imagine nurses being paid double what they are. If teachers got so much more money than they do today, I think many people would go to school to be teachers and then they'd either be looking for jobs that aren't there (too much supply and not enough demand) or it would severely hurt our economy as many want to be instructors without having the real life experience to back it up. But that's a rabbit hole for another thread so sorry for the slight off-topic.

It seems you missed my point. It's not the individuals making the high compensation that's the problem, it's a societal issue of where we place importance and priority. Everyone is due to earn what the market will bear.

That we've dumbed down and become numb to watching boob tv, so called reality shows, which is a true oxymoron, and basically most everything on broadcast TV, plays right into my point that these are the unconscious, robotic souls who lack free thought and will spend thousands on gadgets and egotistical gratification, but miss the big picture until one is in a fire, or need medical help, or police support.

It mostly about immediate and self gratification. Humble is a word that seems to have greatly diminished in the recent past. That's out of kilter.

(05-28-2015 08:39 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(05-28-2015 05:58 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I don't think something is wrong with teachers, nurses, etc. making less than movie stars, athletes, etc. It is just the free market and capitalism at work. Those individual professions get paid like that because that's what the economy says they are worth. Could you imagine how much more college would cost if professors got paid like athletes? Or think of how much more taxes you'd pay for "free" public schooling. Medical expenses are already ridiculously high but imagine nurses being paid double what they are. If teachers got so much more money than they do today, I think many people would go to school to be teachers and then they'd either be looking for jobs that aren't there (too much supply and not enough demand) or it would severely hurt our economy as many want to be instructors without having the real life experience to back it up. But that's a rabbit hole for another thread so sorry for the slight off-topic.

It seems you missed my point. It's not the individuals making the high compensation that's the problem, it's a societal issue of where we place importance and priority. Everyone is due to earn what the market will bear.

That we've dumbed down and become numb to watching boob tv, so called reality shows, which is a true oxymoron, and basically most everything on broadcast TV, plays right into my point that these are the unconscious, robotic souls who lack free thought and will spend thousands on gadgets and egotistical gratification, but miss the big picture until one is in a fire, or need medical help, or police support.

It mostly about immediate and self gratification. Humble is a word that seems to have greatly diminished in the recent past. That's out of kilter.

I'm 100% sure that if you asked anyone in our society then they'd tell you that they think police, firefighters, teachers, etc. are more important than entertainers and athletes.

As for the entertainment programs that people watch, it must be entertaining to them or else they wouldn't watch it. Just because you don't like or understand the appeal of reality shows or whatever else on "broadcast television" then that doesn't mean it's eroding our society.

And you have a problem with people spending thousands on gadgets and entertainment but "miss the big picture until one is in a fire, or need medical help, or police support." Are people supposed to make everything in their house fireproof or something? Should they make their house a military compound to keep bad people away? Should they hire a full time doctor staff that will be ready for any emergency at a moment's notice? You list alleged problems without solutions. Should we not recognize the crazy things and the amount of money people spend on medical things like vitamins, workout equipment, gym memberships, etc. Or how about the home defense systems?

It seems like when I make a post it elicits a contradiction or disagreement from you. Not quite sure why that's so but I appears I ruffle your feathers with my posts. We seem to disagree on most topics, even many times on Liberty.

I would rather have dialogue than spat. If I'm stepping on your toes with my comments I'll be aware in the future and attempt to be more understanding of your posts. I already spat with those who bash LU. I certainly don't want to spat with you, a Liberty fan.