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RE: 2015 JMU Football Thread
we def lost a large number of rsJr's from last year...
06-26-2015 01:19 PM
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RE: 2015 JMU Football Thread
(02-18-2015 03:41 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:36 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:05 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 02:34 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 02:13 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  I think we'll be fine at corner. We have some talented ones coming in. Also have Branch coming in at safety and we saw Withers isn't afraid to play true freshman if they're ready. I've been an advocate of moving Stallings into the role played by Harold last year and having Steele and Hawkins in the middle but his status is obviously unknown at this point.

I wouldn't put any stock into true Fr until they have proved it on the field. We have seen too many hyped Fr in the past with world beater stats and highlight videos that were blah when they got to JMU. Last seasons most highly rated true Fr coming in, the only 3 star, redshirted.

And Stallings might not be available next season.

It's hard to find a positive spin to put on a defense that wasn't very good last season, losing potentially (pending Moreland) 5 of the 6 top CBs, both staring safeties, one an AA, and both stud de ends, both all CAA and 1 an AA.

I look at it like this.....when you have a defense that was not really good to begin with, I don't see a lot of positives returning a bunch of starters from a D that was not good. I don't really see how the D can go anywhere but up.

All I heard was moaning and groaning on this board with regard to the D last year ---- so not returning some of those on that side of the ball and fresh blood on that side of the ball, I see as a positive.

I say this all the time when people talk about number of returning starters to teams. A lot of times I'll hear "This team is returning 9 or 10 starters from last year's defense" and I'm like "Um, yeah, a defense that wasn't good". No doubt we lost some good players but I think we have a good amount of up and coming talent to be better on defense this year than last.

Yup, agree.

Ahem..Like I was saying last Feb, the defense wasn't going to be any good..Some of you'all wanted to believe otherwise..
12-09-2015 12:15 PM
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RE: 2015 JMU Football Thread
(12-09-2015 12:15 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:41 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:36 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:05 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 02:34 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  I wouldn't put any stock into true Fr until they have proved it on the field. We have seen too many hyped Fr in the past with world beater stats and highlight videos that were blah when they got to JMU. Last seasons most highly rated true Fr coming in, the only 3 star, redshirted.

And Stallings might not be available next season.

It's hard to find a positive spin to put on a defense that wasn't very good last season, losing potentially (pending Moreland) 5 of the 6 top CBs, both staring safeties, one an AA, and both stud de ends, both all CAA and 1 an AA.

I look at it like this.....when you have a defense that was not really good to begin with, I don't see a lot of positives returning a bunch of starters from a D that was not good. I don't really see how the D can go anywhere but up.

All I heard was moaning and groaning on this board with regard to the D last year ---- so not returning some of those on that side of the ball and fresh blood on that side of the ball, I see as a positive.

I say this all the time when people talk about number of returning starters to teams. A lot of times I'll hear "This team is returning 9 or 10 starters from last year's defense" and I'm like "Um, yeah, a defense that wasn't good". No doubt we lost some good players but I think we have a good amount of up and coming talent to be better on defense this year than last.

Yup, agree.

Ahem..Like I was saying last Feb, the defense wasn't going to be any good..Some of you'all wanted to believe otherwise..

Yes the defense still needs to improve particularly with regard to 3rd down Defense and Rushing Defense.

However, the defense over the course of the season was better than 2014.
2015 Stats - http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/695
Total Defense - 78 (403.5)
Rushing Defense - 88 (197.6)
Passing Defense - 50 (205.9)
Scoring Defense - 77 (28.7)

As we all would I want these to further improve, but I think they are better on all counts than in 2014. We cannot simply apply Matt Jones logic and dismiss the defense during the first half of the season and apply the last 4-5 game averages to tell the entire story.
12-09-2015 12:38 PM
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RE: 2015 JMU Football Thread
(12-09-2015 12:38 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(12-09-2015 12:15 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:41 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:36 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  
(02-18-2015 03:05 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  I look at it like this.....when you have a defense that was not really good to begin with, I don't see a lot of positives returning a bunch of starters from a D that was not good. I don't really see how the D can go anywhere but up.

All I heard was moaning and groaning on this board with regard to the D last year ---- so not returning some of those on that side of the ball and fresh blood on that side of the ball, I see as a positive.

I say this all the time when people talk about number of returning starters to teams. A lot of times I'll hear "This team is returning 9 or 10 starters from last year's defense" and I'm like "Um, yeah, a defense that wasn't good". No doubt we lost some good players but I think we have a good amount of up and coming talent to be better on defense this year than last.

Yup, agree.

Ahem..Like I was saying last Feb, the defense wasn't going to be any good..Some of you'all wanted to believe otherwise..

Yes the defense still needs to improve particularly with regard to 3rd down Defense and Rushing Defense.

However, the defense over the course of the season was better than 2014.
2015 Stats - http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fcs/current/team/695
Total Defense - 78 (403.5)
Rushing Defense - 88 (197.6)
Passing Defense - 50 (205.9)
Scoring Defense - 77 (28.7)

As we all would I want these to further improve, but I think they are better on all counts than in 2014. We cannot simply apply Matt Jones logic and dismiss the defense during the first half of the season and apply the last 4-5 game averages to tell the entire story.

I don't see how you can say better on all counts when 2014 against the rush gave up 186.2 ypg and this season 197.6 ypg.

Overall SLEIGHTLY better playing about the same SOS (Sagarin 175 last yr, 181 this year):
-2014 29.0 ppg, 10th in CAA, (3rd worst in 36 seasons JMU I-AA football)
-2015 28.7 ppg, 11th in CAA, (4th worst..............................................)

-2014 424.8 ypg, 11th CAA (worst since 99' JMUsports.com ypg stats available)
-2015 403.5 ypg, 10th CAA (2nd worst..........................................................)

CAA Total Defense JMU (all games):
2008: 2nd
2009: 2nd
2010: 2nd
2011: 1st
2012: 2nd
2013: 4th MM fired
2014: 11th Withers
2015: 10th
http://www.caasports.com/sports/2014/6/7...40412.aspx
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12-09-2015 02:20 PM
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RE: 2015 JMU Football Thread
Yeah I think that is pretty much what I said, the defense is a little better but still has a lot of room for improvement.

Also the defense does not need to be shutdown (1/2 in the CAA) b/c the offense is putting plenty of points on the board to win. If JMU could just get a mid-pack defense that would be sufficient with the current offensive production.
12-09-2015 02:36 PM
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RE: 2015 JMU Football Thread
(12-09-2015 02:36 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  Yeah I think that is pretty much what I said, the defense is a little better but still has a lot of room for improvement.

Also the defense does not need to be shutdown (1/2 in the CAA) b/c the offense is putting plenty of points on the board to win. If JMU could just get a mid-pack defense that would be sufficient with the current offensive production.

Totally agreed.
12-09-2015 02:42 PM
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RE: 2015 JMU Football Thread
Just a couple of extra stops each game would be an incredible difference. holding them to FG instead of TD is far better of course you want the opposing team not to score but . Add in our Scoring ability and you will have wins.
Think about our losses this year...had the opposing team gotten FG instead OF TD 2 or 3 times we most likely would have won 2 or 3 those.
12-09-2015 05:24 PM
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