(12-08-2014 10:37 AM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:30 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Please post the gist of the GA JMU grad comments. Thanks.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-709255.html

Thanks for posting Potus 4...that's not good.

I've got Duke Club reps telling me that "it's not if but when." Really? Is Bourne telling them to say this?

That GA comment in addition to the way JMU has operated for years tells me what I've feared and what I have been predicting for years, JMU has been left behind in the CAA.

I have pledged DC donations based on the "early 2015" communication and I am being pushed to donate by 12-31.

If we remain in the CAA, JMU will get a CAA donation which is the minimum and my grad school will get a Big East donation thrown on top of a multi billion dollar endowment which is being used well to brand my masters degree via visible athletics.

My reasoning is the same pragmatism that the VA GA is using when deciding how to fund VA college sports. Money flows in the direction it is most deserved.

(12-08-2014 10:56 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:37 AM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:30 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Please post the gist of the GA JMU grad comments. Thanks.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-709255.html

Thanks for posting Potus 4...that's not good.

I've got Duke Club reps telling me that "it's not if but when." Really? Is Bourne telling them to say this?

That GA comment in addition to the way JMU has operated for years tells me what I've feared and what I have been predicting for years, JMU has been left behind in the CAA.

I have pledged DC donations based on the "early 2015" communication and I am being pushed to donate by 12-31.

If we remain in the CAA, JMU will get a CAA donation which is the minimum and my grad school will get a Big East donation thrown on top of a multi billion dollar endowment which is being used well to brand my masters degree via visible athletics.

My reasoning is the same pragmatism that the VA GA is using when deciding how to fund VA college sports. Money flows in the direction it is most deserved.

I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but there are certain external issues that are out of the control of JMU administration - even if we do get an invite from a desirable conference. People need to understand that there's a reason JMU isn't talking up an FBS move (Hey, it's not really a big deal - not very different from the CAA, etc, etc) like a school such as Liberty, for example. These are the same reasons JMU might choose to publicly emphasize some of the non-sports aspects of a new convo.

(12-08-2014 11:06 AM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:56 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:37 AM)POTUS#4 Wrote:  

(12-08-2014 10:30 AM)Purplehazed Wrote:  Please post the gist of the GA JMU grad comments. Thanks.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-709255.html

Thanks for posting Potus 4...that's not good.

I've got Duke Club reps telling me that "it's not if but when." Really? Is Bourne telling them to say this?

That GA comment in addition to the way JMU has operated for years tells me what I've feared and what I have been predicting for years, JMU has been left behind in the CAA.

I have pledged DC donations based on the "early 2015" communication and I am being pushed to donate by 12-31.

If we remain in the CAA, JMU will get a CAA donation which is the minimum and my grad school will get a Big East donation thrown on top of a multi billion dollar endowment which is being used well to brand my masters degree via visible athletics.

My reasoning is the same pragmatism that the VA GA is using when deciding how to fund VA college sports. Money flows in the direction it is most deserved.

I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but there are certain external issues that are out of the control of JMU administration - even if we do get an invite from a desirable conference. People need to understand that there's a reason JMU isn't talking up an FBS move (Hey, it's not really a big deal - not very different from the CAA, etc, etc) like a school such as Liberty, for example. These are the same reasons JMU might choose to publicly emphasize some of the non-sports aspects of a new convo.

Potus4 - I am kidding, sort of...you are the first poster to say this but it's about where we are by now...

"out of the control of JMU administration - even if we do get an invite from a desirable conference" Kind of why about 10,000 of us have been on this board begging, pleading with the admin to act years ago.

Just tuned into the SHSU/Nova game...I've seen more people at JMU exhibition basketball games. Maybe 2,000 people in the stands.

Honestly, I'm glad most of these games are on ESPN3. I wouldn't want the rest of the country grouping JMU with these kind of fan bases.

And yet ndsu was sold out.

Problem is in many of these games the cameras are setting up on the home side, showing most of the game the visitor side which is sometimes a fraction of the size, mostly empty, with a fraction of the people.

UNH's Cowell Stadium lists a capacity of 6500, which doesn't include temp endzone. The visitor side is a small fraction of the size of the home side. My guess is its about 5500 home side, about 1000 visitor's side.

Last night's qtr final vs UTC the listed attendance was 6380 (which might have been lowballed, which is widely known to be a common occurrence by schools in the playoffs). The home side looked mostly full. The temp endzone bleachers looked mostly full. And the visitors side was mostly empty. I'm guessing there was 5k+ home side, 1k ish temp endzone, and a couple hundred on the visitor's side. Well, guess which side the camera's showed for most of the game- the visitor's side, which looked like a small HS crowd.

Was similar with Villanova. I only watched 4th qtr. I saw 1 shot of a portion of the home side (assume was around midfield) that looked pretty full. The visitor couldn't have been more than 10% full. Again, guess which side the camera's showed for most of the game- the visitor's side, which looked pathetic.

JMU has a similar problem on a larger scale- most of the game the camera's are showing the smaller Godwin side.

Amazing that Nova actually had an opportunity to go FBS. What a cluster that would likely have been.

(12-13-2014 06:12 PM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote:  Amazing that Nova actually had an opportunity to go FBS. What a cluster that would likely have been.

Attendance: 2333

(12-14-2014 09:54 AM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  

(12-13-2014 06:12 PM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote:  Amazing that Nova actually had an opportunity to go FBS. What a cluster that would likely have been.

Attendance: 2333

It was low, but I bet VU lowballed it by a k or 2.. Got to fork over to the NCAA bid or 75% of gate I think. They knew they were going to be a seed, so they would have put in the minimum bid. No reason to tell the truth to the NCAA on attendance/gate and have to pay them pay more to the NCAA.

Yep. Into the Big East for football. They could have easily made that happen. It would be the American by now, though, still it would be an amazing spot for Villanova. No chance of that now, though.

(12-13-2014 06:12 PM)Madison 91 Forever Wrote:  Amazing that Nova actually had an opportunity to go FBS. What a cluster that would likely have been.

So i'm watching this UNH/Chattanooga game for the first time and I will say, although not completely full, UNH has the best crowd and atmosphere i've ever seen them have when they're on tv. It does reflect a little bit better on the CAA and certainly looks better than the pitiful display you usually see at a Villanova game.

Their capacity is 6,500 according to the wikipedia page, and the attendance was 6,380. That is 98.2% capacity. I can't say that these stands look 98% full. It's more like 80% throughout the whole stadium. There are up to a thousand people standing along the sidelines that could fill out the stands more.
The visiting side stands do look bad and their admin should be trying to fill it up more so it doesn't look bad on tv.
Either way, I don't see how they would be under-reporting on that figure. It seems fairly accurate to me.

(12-15-2014 10:21 AM)Potomac Wrote:  So i'm watching this UNH/Chattanooga game for the first time and I will say, although not completely full, UNH has the best crowd and atmosphere i've ever seen them have when they're on tv. It does reflect a little bit better on the CAA and certainly looks better than the pitiful display you usually see at a Villanova game.

Their capacity is 6,500 according to the wikipedia page, and the attendance was 6,380. That is 98.2% capacity. I can't say that these stands look 98% full. It's more like 80% throughout the whole stadium. There are up to a thousand people standing along the sidelines that could fill out the stands more.
The visiting side stands do look bad and their admin should be trying to fill it up more so it doesn't look bad on tv.
Either way, I don't see how they would be under-reporting on that figure. It seems fairly accurate to me.

Your're ignoring the fact that the 6500 listed capacity doesn't count the temp endzone bleachers, as has already been stated. The temp end zone, which probably held somewhere between 1-2k, look fairly full. The home side looked mostly full. Only the small visitor side was only a fraction filled. When JMU played then #1 UNH in Oct 06' on their HC with Santos and Ball, a 42-23 JMU win, attendance in their 6500k stadium was listed as 13042. Think they had temp endzone on both sides. While last Fri night there wasn't anywhere close to what they had for that game, UNH easily could have undercounted by a few hundred to 1-2k.