(11-24-2014 03:59 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 03:40 PM)NCeagle Wrote:  I was actually kind of hoping us getting smacked down at navy would prevent that from happening this year. lol

If you guys had taken 1 or both of your ACC games I'd say Fritz is a goner at the end of the season without much doubt. You might keep him for next year now given the overall out of conference performance.

This makes me thankful that Satterfield is a former player, coach. It would take a pretty spectacular opportunity to lure him away from Boon.e

If is it 250K or more a year to any decent G5 or P5 and he is gone.

What is Fritz's total salary currently?

(11-24-2014 05:36 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  What is Fritz's total salary currently?

The coaches hot seat site has him at 500K and I believe that goes up every year IIRC.
We will lose him just as easy to a good G5 or P5 that can pay 250K or higher.

(11-24-2014 03:27 PM)TXSTCAT Wrote:  Fritz just put himself out there for the taking. What's the plan to hold on to him or find a quality replacement? Not a trash talk thread. Honest concern.

Thought it was a question for us...glad its not

My thoughts, for what they're worth. Fritz is, in the coaching world, not a spring chicken. This doesn't mean no one will hire him by any means, but it's a factor. It also plays into his thinking in some way. At this point in his career, he could either be thinking "I've got to get it rolling if I'm going to coach a national champ!" He could also be thinking "I want to make a longterm mark somewhere and this is as good a place as any." My guess is, having been at his age in an accomplishment-oriented career, he's having some of both thoughts.

When GS first announced the intention to move, I was not completely sold on the idea. My concern was, and is, whether GS is willing to do what is necessary to be successful at the selected level. This brings up a question. There is (I think) at least one head coach in the Sun Belt who earns twice as much money as our guy. If the university believes Fritz is The Man for Georgia Southern, are they willing to ante up to keep him? I know that if $2M comes calling, the game is over. But what if it's something in the $800K range? Are they willing to let him go and look again, or are they willing to do what's necessary to keep him and the staff?

I would assume that, whichever the answer is for the second paragraph's question, Dr. Keel and Tom Kleinlein have a plan in the works, because it's not like they haven't been able to see this possibility coming the past few weeks.

(11-24-2014 06:53 PM)jim121256 Wrote:  My thoughts, for what they're worth. Fritz is, in the coaching world, not a spring chicken. This doesn't mean no one will hire him by any means, but it's a factor. It also plays into his thinking in some way. At this point in his career, he could either be thinking "I've got to get it rolling if I'm going to coach a national champ!" He could also be thinking "I want to make a longterm mark somewhere and this is as good a place as any." My guess is, having been at his age in an accomplishment-oriented career, he's having some of both thoughts.

When GS first announced the intention to move, I was not completely sold on the idea. My concern was, and is, whether GS is willing to do what is necessary to be successful at the selected level. This brings up a question. There is (I think) at least one head coach in the Sun Belt who earns twice as much money as our guy. If the university believes Fritz is The Man for Georgia Southern, are they willing to ante up to keep him? I know that if $2M comes calling, the game is over. But what if it's something in the $800K range? Are they willing to let him go and look again, or are they willing to do what's necessary to keep him and the staff?

I would assume that, whichever the answer is for the second paragraph's question, Dr. Keel and Tom Kleinlein have a plan in the works, because it's not like they haven't been able to see this possibility coming the past few weeks.

If he continues to win in the Sun Belt, then I think the market dictates that he be paid 750K or more.

Does Georgia Southern have the funding, between the state and private funds to get him to the $750K - $1 Mil range?

(11-24-2014 04:44 PM)TXSTCAT Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 03:35 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 03:27 PM)TXSTCAT Wrote:  Fritz just put himself out there for the taking. What's the plan to hold on to him or find a quality replacement? Not a trash talk thread. Honest concern.

Link to what you are saying, please?

I'm referring to the success they had this season. Many who wouldn't know who GSU is do now. When programs come out of no where their coaches get snatch up by other programs with more money hoping to have the same success.

I know it's hard to believe but in the coaching profession GS is a lot more well known than you think. I remember when Paul Johnson was hired there were tons of candidates for the job. We had if I recall lots of P5 assistants some lower level head coaches and a few nfl coaches trying to get the job.

It's easy to dismiss GS because we were fcs but we're not your typical fcs.

(11-24-2014 06:58 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  If he continues to win in the Sun Belt, then I think the market dictates that he be paid 750K or more.

Does Georgia Southern have the funding, between the state and private funds to get him to the $750K - $1 Mil range?

This is the question in my mind. At this point, what I want to see is that GS is willing and able to do what's necessary to first compete with UL and stAte and then to push beyond that level. I would assume that somewhere in the budget of a university the size of GS, there's money that could be used to help get the salary to that level, but I'm not an accountant. I'm much better at spending it than raising it.

(11-24-2014 06:58 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  If he continues to win in the Sun Belt, then I think the market dictates that he be paid 750K or more.

Does Georgia Southern have the funding, between the state and private funds to get him to the $750K - $1 Mil range?

I agree, he would be definitely worth that much. No, we do not have the money to pay him that as of today.

...state funds for athletics. You're funny!

(11-24-2014 04:13 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Of course, as of today, Fritz would go to ten P5 schools before Sattefield would get a call.

I wouldn't begin to speculate the exact number that would trump Satterfield's loyalty though, and I sure as hell won't defer to a Georgia Southern fan to do so. Satt is homegrown (to a fault in most people's opinion before we started winning). We'll see how much money he turns down if/when they come acallin'

Fritz would leave Statesboro in a nanosecond if the opportunity/price was right.

Why did Satt leave App to be a position coach at Toledo?

(11-24-2014 08:19 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 04:13 PM)DrGonzo Wrote:  Of course, as of today, Fritz would go to ten P5 schools before Sattefield would get a call.

I wouldn't begin to speculate the exact number that would trump Satterfield's loyalty though, and I sure as hell won't defer to a Georgia Southern fan to do so. Satt is homegrown (to a fault in most people's opinion before we started winning). We'll see how much money he turns down if/when they come acallin'

Fritz would leave Statesboro in a nanosecond if the opportunity/price was right.

Why did Satt leave App to be a position coach at Toledo?

I thought he left to be oc at F_U?

I watched Fritz the other day in an interview and after speaking with him only once I realize that he has the personality right up front to be very attractive in that regard. There are alot of good coaches out there but not all of them have the ability to talk to the press and look confident and know what the hell they are talking about. Fritz not only looks like he knows what hes doing, he does. This confidence can be seen in his interviews. That alone believe it or not, along with winning, is very attractive to people. He will be soon the target of some big schools. Mark my word. I hope he stays but money talks.

(11-24-2014 06:58 PM)epiccajun Wrote:  

(11-24-2014 06:53 PM)jim121256 Wrote:  My thoughts, for what they're worth. Fritz is, in the coaching world, not a spring chicken. This doesn't mean no one will hire him by any means, but it's a factor. It also plays into his thinking in some way. At this point in his career, he could either be thinking "I've got to get it rolling if I'm going to coach a national champ!" He could also be thinking "I want to make a longterm mark somewhere and this is as good a place as any." My guess is, having been at his age in an accomplishment-oriented career, he's having some of both thoughts.

When GS first announced the intention to move, I was not completely sold on the idea. My concern was, and is, whether GS is willing to do what is necessary to be successful at the selected level. This brings up a question. There is (I think) at least one head coach in the Sun Belt who earns twice as much money as our guy. If the university believes Fritz is The Man for Georgia Southern, are they willing to ante up to keep him? I know that if $2M comes calling, the game is over. But what if it's something in the $800K range? Are they willing to let him go and look again, or are they willing to do what's necessary to keep him and the staff?

I would assume that, whichever the answer is for the second paragraph's question, Dr. Keel and Tom Kleinlein have a plan in the works, because it's not like they haven't been able to see this possibility coming the past few weeks.

If he continues to win in the Sun Belt, then I think the market dictates that he be paid 750K or more.

Does Georgia Southern have the funding, between the state and private funds to get him to the $750K - $1 Mil range?

GS may be the most successful poorest program around. I think people associated with GSU are willing at this point to come up with a situation that would agree with that. I know I would try. GS was a teachers college back in the day and our 65 year old and up alum are retired teachers. We dont have the rich base that so many do, but as time goes on we will like others. This is one of the reasons we didnt move up sooner. To answer your question I think its possible, but if he gets an offer of a million plus I would think he leaves. I would.

I have heard we are working on a plan to get him to around $650,000 per year. Will this insulate Ga. Southern from outsiders --- no. But it will at least put Fritz in the top 4 coaching salaries in the Sun Belt. Currently he is 8th out of the 11 coaches.

I have come to expect that when Ga. Southern coaches are successful--- like Paul Johnson and Jeff Monken-- it is going to be hard to keep them. Monken makes a little over $800,000 at Army which was basically more than double what he was making at Ga. Southern. Paul Johnson when he left got something like a 4X increase going to Navy.

Realistically my hope for Ga. Southern is that we can get to the point we can keep our coaches from going to other G5 schools. To me $800,000 to $1,000,000 probably does that right now. If a P5 school comes along waving 1.2 million or more per year we are going to be hard pressed to keep a coach at that point.

I am much more convinced our present AD will make a good hire if we have to however then our previous AD doing it.

Common knowledge was that to become head coach at APP Satterfield needed experience outside of APP.

Its not the salary kids, its the buyout. Most any AAC school could pay more than an SBC school, but could they afford a 2 million dollar buyout PLUS the raised Salary is the question?

Yes I have no idea what Fritz's buyout is now but my guess is that it is not very high. If/When we increase his salary it needs to be with the buyout increased. Hopefully he would agree to that.

(11-24-2014 10:22 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Yes I have no idea what Fritz's buyout is now but my guess is that it is not very high. If/When we increase his salary it needs to be with the buyout increased. Hopefully he would agree to that.

If Kleinline structured the contract well, it would have included a nice buyout as Fritz was taking the GS job no matter what. The Ark St buyout structure was well known so I would think we would have something similar.

Willie Fritz is 54. He ain't exactly over the hill just yet.

(11-24-2014 10:55 PM)CatMom Wrote:  Willie Fritz is 54. He ain't exactly over the hill just yet.

I don't know. Sometimes we think of you as Over the Hill, and you are around that age...

*Ducks*