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(11-23-2014 09:11 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  
(11-23-2014 08:39 PM)Sitting bull Wrote:  I think you know I enjoy your visits, I like your posts and know you like us, you are often here and always welcome here in my view.

But no, you are not right. I have no opinion on the 11/1 game at JMU as I wasn't there , didn't see it, and have never commented on that. That was your buddy HK here. I was only trying to give you a little history lesson because your comment back to HK was just flat out false (and I thought a bit snotty to be honest).

My comment was JMU has great support but with 20,000 students, to try and make some sort of statement here in this subject thread seemed a bit lame.

Snotty is a funny adjective. I'm gonna start using that more. Alright, that's enough out of me on this. You guys wanna come hang out in the teepee this Saturday?

For the record - I was at the homecoming game in Harrisonburg for JMU vs. W&M.

I don't know the exact size of the stadium, so I can't comment on specific numbers - but attendance was not good. They stadium wasn't even 75% full and the student section was a ghost town. To make claims otherwise is just silly.

To the point of the poster that said JMU had the same struggles with bad weather - it's 100% true. I don't care about what numbers JMU reported, the attendance for that game was not good.
11-24-2014 11:11 AM
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(11-24-2014 11:00 AM)hktribefan Wrote:  Now that the season is in the books, I looked at the attendance for the home games this year. The average attendance at each game was 8,991, the high being against Villanova with 10,764 (the only game to break 10,000), and the low being against Delaware with 7,614. With this year's capacity of 11,686, that's 76.94% on the year. To give some perspective, average attendance rose every year from 2004 (8044.4, 65.62%) to 2010 (11289.6, 92.09%), with the exception of a drop between 2007-2008. This year's number was the lowest average since 2004 or 2005 (depending on if you use total attendance or percent of capacity). After the playoff run in 2004, buzz around the program grew, and the new facilities (lights, field, Laycock center) helped grow the product on the field. Beating UVa and making another playoff run in 2009 fueled great attendance in 2010. 2010 had three of five contests sell out, and only one game under 10,000 (a game against Rhode Island that I believe was over fall break). 2011 had a dip down to an average of 10977.6, or 89.55%; even though it's a decrease from the previous year, that's a good number, and again three of five games sold out. A 5-6 season followed by a 2-9 season seems to have hurt attendance. Mediocre seasons resulting in close misses of the playoffs two years in a row does not help either.

Looking to next year, I think there are a few things that will potentially increase attendance. Since we don't play UVa until the third week of the season (most likely), the chance for an early home game before students get too much work is probably. Freshmen usually pack the first game, but this year since it was not until week 3, there were a lot of other things going on (I recall sorority rush for one). A week one home game would be great and a good win helps keep those newbies coming back. Then there's our FBS game against UVa. That is a program that keeps thinking about getting better, but never seems to do it. Those games are always tough, but UVa presents the best opportunity for a good performance. Good performances in those games seem to energize people (obviously a win is better, but competing creates positive buzz), so that's a great opportunity there. Many people have said if the product on the field is better, attendance is better. I completely agree, and I hope the product improves. Offense brings back some weapons, and if we can get a receiver or two to stand out along with Dedmon, we could have a very dynamic offense. Defense has work to do and although some major contributors are graduating, we do bring back some big play makers. The Zable renovation will also generate buzz with the program. It will help in recruiting as well as the game day experience. Both of those translate into higher attendance. I don't think it's public, but I'd be interested in knowing what season ticket sales has done. Keeping season ticket sales growing is important, and getting younger alums in those seats is essential for the long term success of the program. Hopefully we can regroup this off-season, generate some excitement in spring practice, and regain some stronger support next fall. Go Tribe!

And for what it's worth - W&M finished 4th in the CAA on average attendance out of 12 programs - only behind JMU, Delaware and UNH (which was swelled by the 18,000+ in the parking lot during our Homecoming visit there).
11-24-2014 11:44 AM
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And all those schools, as well as every CAA football program minus Elon and Richmond, are bigger than us enrollment wise.

And I doubt the accuracy of UNH's numbers, their stadium is listed at 6500 capacity yet they reported more than that for all but the Albany game, where they got 3k to show up.
11-24-2014 12:10 PM
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I hope we get a home game week 1 but I also hope its against a decent opponent. As a student I had no interest in watching us play Central Connecticut State or (almost losing to) New Haven. State schools usually get a decent turnout, even if the opposing programs aren't that good.
11-24-2014 12:16 PM
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I think (and this is based on what sticks in my mind, even though I can't find anything for certain) it's against NSU, Hampton, or VMI. Again, that's what sticks in my mind, and it could be completely off.
11-24-2014 12:21 PM
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The 2010 VMI game had the best student turnout of any game during my student career. They actually had to turn students away at the gate because the sections were too full. Early season night game against a state school students have heard of. It was the perfect storm for student attendance. It also helped that we hammered the Keydets too.
11-24-2014 12:24 PM
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(11-24-2014 11:11 AM)wml33t Wrote:  For the record - I was at the homecoming game in Harrisonburg for JMU vs. W&M.

I don't know the exact size of the stadium, so I can't comment on specific numbers - but attendance was not good. They stadium wasn't even 75% full and the student section was a ghost town. To make claims otherwise is just silly.

To the point of the poster that said JMU had the same struggles with bad weather - it's 100% true. I don't care about what numbers JMU reported, the attendance for that game was not good.

Was just responding to hk's assertion that 8665 happened at JMU. It didn't. Over 20k happened. That was my only point. I get that you eye-balled 75% of 25k, but I'm going to have to go with the real attendance recorded & use it to refute the idea that we had the low, low number of 8665.
11-24-2014 12:52 PM
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(11-24-2014 12:52 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 11:11 AM)wml33t Wrote:  For the record - I was at the homecoming game in Harrisonburg for JMU vs. W&M.

I don't know the exact size of the stadium, so I can't comment on specific numbers - but attendance was not good. They stadium wasn't even 75% full and the student section was a ghost town. To make claims otherwise is just silly.

To the point of the poster that said JMU had the same struggles with bad weather - it's 100% true. I don't care about what numbers JMU reported, the attendance for that game was not good.

Was just responding to hk's assertion that 8665 happened at JMU. It didn't. Over 20k happened. That was my only point. I get that you eye-balled 75% of 25k, but I'm going to have to go with the real attendance recorded & use it to refute the idea that we had the low, low number of 8665.

I think his point about the "same thing happening" was that there was poor attendance because of weather, not 8665.

And feel free to go with the "official" number, but there's simply no way that place was more than 75% and the student section was almost literally empty. That's a fact.
11-24-2014 12:54 PM
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(11-24-2014 12:54 PM)wml33t Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 12:52 PM)HyperDuke Wrote:  
(11-24-2014 11:11 AM)wml33t Wrote:  For the record - I was at the homecoming game in Harrisonburg for JMU vs. W&M.

I don't know the exact size of the stadium, so I can't comment on specific numbers - but attendance was not good. They stadium wasn't even 75% full and the student section was a ghost town. To make claims otherwise is just silly.

To the point of the poster that said JMU had the same struggles with bad weather - it's 100% true. I don't care about what numbers JMU reported, the attendance for that game was not good.

Was just responding to hk's assertion that 8665 happened at JMU. It didn't. Over 20k happened. That was my only point. I get that you eye-balled 75% of 25k, but I'm going to have to go with the real attendance recorded & use it to refute the idea that we had the low, low number of 8665.

I think his point about the "same thing happening" was that there was poor attendance because of weather, not 8665.

And feel free to go with the "official" number, but there's simply no way that place was more than 75% and the student section was almost literally empty. That's a fact.

Boy, I've really created quite the stir here! My initial post was in response to the comment about "what happened to the student body" or something like that. My comment about JMU was that there was not a full student section for their homecoming game. Their student section that game probably had more than ours on a full day in terms of numbers, but I was talking about percentages since that's the best way to compare different sizes of stadiums and student bodies. Hyper, good luck to you guys in the playoffs. I think you'll do some damage now that your offense is clicking and Vad Lee is doing his thing. May you be blessed with a full student section!
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Yeah right. I'll be shocked if we get 3k students. It's like they can't imagine having post-Thanksgiving Saturday away from home. I used to have to rally troops for support when I was a student. You've done Thanksgiving like this for 18-20 years. You can do something different this year.
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Playoff attendance never seems great, for any school
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It's Thanksgiving weekend, most people already have plans, season ticket holders and students have to buy new tickets and the weather usually sucks.

Throw in the bidding charade and why anyone would expect a huge crowd, I don't get it.
11-24-2014 07:19 PM
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I think shirts should be made "2014 Richmond game, Zable was at 77% capacity...woohoo!"
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