(11-03-2014 07:10 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 05:51 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  You can criticize Cajun fans for speaking their mind about the conference but here is my take and why it is deserved. Last year we beat A-State and shared the title with them I don't think its right but we went into the last two games needing one victory to be out right champions we failed so heck at two losses it's fair if three teams would have shared. We had our chance and blew it no excuses. But this year Cajuns and GaSo could go undefeated in conference (lots of football left to be played) and have to share the title at 8-0. Both teams would have done everything ask of them in the conference and not be the sole award winner for the hard work. If that happens I think both fan bases should be upset to not lose a conference game but share the title. The conference is making all of us the laughing stock of the G-5 world. If we both lose a game all bets are off then best records deserve to share.

Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12 have all had co-championships in the last decade...the latest in 2012. You act as if this is some new unique weirdness imposed by the Sun Belt against all football history. It is not. It is not making anyone a laughing stock any more than the Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12 schools were laughing stocks.

If the Cajuns and Georgia Southern win out they will both have earned championships. They will be no "less" champions than any sole championship won by any other team at any time.

And...if Georgia Southern wins sole championship there is no asterisk because they did not play the Cajun and stAte. Doesn't matter. If the Cajuns wins sole championship there is no asterisk because they did not play Georgia Southern. Doesn't matter.

I sometimes think you guys cannot be happy and have to find something to squash any potential joy.

If you get those rings...you WILL be conference champions and should allow yourselves to enjoy it.

Please enlighten us on how many of those co-champs have been undefeated in conference play we both shared the title last year but we both had two loses. There is no reason two undefeated teams should share a conference championship don't start thinking like the conference front office. Further more if GaSo loses a game and we don't are vice versus the team with the loss should be made because what's to say that game we didn't wouldn't have been a loss for the undefeated team.

(11-03-2014 07:05 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 05:51 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  You can criticize Cajun fans for speaking their mind about the conference but here is my take and why it is deserved. Last year we beat A-State and shared the title with them I don't think its right but we went into the last two games needing one victory to be out right champions we failed so heck at two losses it's fair if three teams would have shared. We had our chance and blew it no excuses. But this year Cajuns and GaSo could go undefeated in conference (lots of football left to be played) and have to share the title at 8-0. Both teams would have done everything ask of them in the conference and not be the sole award winner for the hard work. If that happens I think both fan bases should be upset to not lose a conference game but share the title. The conference is making all of us the laughing stock of the G-5 world. If we both lose a game all bets are off then best records deserve to share.

Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12 have all had co-championships in the last decade...the latest in 2012. You act as if this is some new unique weirdness imposed by the Sun Belt against all football history. It is not. It is not making anyone a laughing stock any more than the Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12 schools were laughing stocks.

It doesn't bother me as that's the way it was done for over 100 years.

(11-03-2014 06:43 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 05:51 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  You can criticize Cajun fans for speaking their mind about the conference but here is my take and why it is deserved. Last year we beat A-State and shared the title with them I don't think its right but we went into the last two games needing one victory to be out right champions we failed so heck at two losses it's fair if three teams would have shared. We had our chance and blew it no excuses. But this year Cajuns and GaSo could go undefeated in conference (lots of football left to be played) and have to share the title at 8-0. Both teams would have done everything ask of them in the conference and not be the sole award winner for the hard work. If that happens I think both fan bases should be upset to not lose a conference game but share the title. The conference is making all of us the laughing stock of the G-5 world. If we both lose a game all bets are off then best records deserve to share.

No one likes to hear the truth! The fact of the matter is we are already the laughing stock of the G-5 world and our membership hasn't helped. Benson is a clown and most know it. We have a transition FCS program that is sitting at the top of the standings in its first year and could share or win the title outright. The fact that outside of ASU and UL whom are not on their schedule, no existing member seems capable of defeating them. We don't even care about basketball enough to host a conference basketball media day in New Orleans. So my friend, were are considered a joke right now by most standards.

1) It is a very good thing that one of our transition schools is doing so well and getting lots of press about it. If they were doing lousy there would be complaining about how the conference was a laughingstock because they were lousy. I have heard nobody in the press deriding the Sun Belt because Georgia Southern is doing well...only Cajuns on this board.

2) Your argument seems to be that our conference is getting bad press so let's make it worse and repeat that over and over and over. That makes zero sense. It harms your own program. And if you wanted the conference to be perceived better this year then you shouldn't have gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech. Our transitional teams had nothing to do with that.

(11-03-2014 07:17 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 06:43 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 05:51 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  You can criticize Cajun fans for speaking their mind about the conference but here is my take and why it is deserved. Last year we beat A-State and shared the title with them I don't think its right but we went into the last two games needing one victory to be out right champions we failed so heck at two losses it's fair if three teams would have shared. We had our chance and blew it no excuses. But this year Cajuns and GaSo could go undefeated in conference (lots of football left to be played) and have to share the title at 8-0. Both teams would have done everything ask of them in the conference and not be the sole award winner for the hard work. If that happens I think both fan bases should be upset to not lose a conference game but share the title. The conference is making all of us the laughing stock of the G-5 world. If we both lose a game all bets are off then best records deserve to share.

No one likes to hear the truth! The fact of the matter is we are already the laughing stock of the G-5 world and our membership hasn't helped. Benson is a clown and most know it. We have a transition FCS program that is sitting at the top of the standings in its first year and could share or win the title outright. The fact that outside of ASU and UL whom are not on their schedule, no existing member seems capable of defeating them. We don't even care about basketball enough to host a conference basketball media day in New Orleans. So my friend, were are considered a joke right now by most standards.

1) It is a very good thing that one of our transition schools is doing so well and getting lots of press about it. If they were doing lousy there would be complaining about how the conference was a laughingstock because they were lousy. I have heard nobody in the press deriding the Sun Belt because Georgia Southern is doing well...only Cajuns on this board.

2) Your argument seems to be that our conference is getting bad press so let's make it worse and repeat that over and over and over. That makes zero sense. It harms your own program. And if you wanted the conference to be perceived better this year then you shouldn't have gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech. Our transitional teams had nothing to do with that.

I have no problem with GaSo doing well I support all the conference teams when they are not playing the Cajuns the point is the conference will be a laughing stock two undefeated co-champions or a transitional team as champion how bad is this conference. Once again if I'm GaSo and someone gets lucky and beat us I'm pissed because the game against the Cajun might have been their first loss.

(11-03-2014 07:13 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  Please enlighten us on how many of those co-champs have been undefeated in conference play

Here are a few post 1930.

1930 Michigan/Northwestern
1934 Alabama/Tulane
1935 Minnesota/Ohio State
1939 Georgia Tech/Tennessee/Tulane
1943 Michigan/Purdue
1946 Georgia/Tennessee
1948 California/Oregon
1951 Georgia Tech/Tennessee
1953 Duke/Maryland
1955 Duke/Maryland
1961 Alabama/LSU
1966 Alabama/Georgia
1973 Michigan/Ohio State
1981 Alabama/Georgia
2002 Iowa/Ohio State

(11-03-2014 07:21 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  I have no problem with GaSo doing well I support all the conference teams when they are not playing the Cajuns the point is the conference will be a laughing stock two undefeated co-champions or a transitional team as champion how bad is this conference. Once again if I'm GaSo and someone gets lucky and beat us I'm pissed because the game against the Cajun might have been their first loss.

We all knew before the season what we had to do. Get more conference wins than anyone else. If Georgia Southern wins out and the Cajuns do not...there is no reason to be pissed at anyone but whoever lost that one extra conference game...and that will not the conference, or Georgia Southern.

Right now, stAte might have been Georgia Southern's only loss if we had played.

If Cajuns win out....just maybe Idaho would have spoiled that. We will never know.

One can overthink these things. We have specific things to do to get rings. We all know them. Do them or don't.

(11-03-2014 07:33 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:13 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  Please enlighten us on how many of those co-champs have been undefeated in conference play

Here are a few post 1930.

1930 Michigan/Northwestern
1934 Alabama/Tulane
1935 Minnesota/Ohio State
1939 Georgia Tech/Tennessee/Tulane
1943 Michigan/Purdue
1946 Georgia/Tennessee
1948 California/Oregon
1951 Georgia Tech/Tennessee
1953 Duke/Maryland
1955 Duke/Maryland
1961 Alabama/LSU
1966 Alabama/Georgia
1973 Michigan/Ohio State
1981 Alabama/Georgia
2002 Iowa/Ohio State

I looked it up once, but something like a third of tOSU's titles were shared.

(11-03-2014 07:50 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:33 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:13 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  Please enlighten us on how many of those co-champs have been undefeated in conference play

Here are a few post 1930.

1930 Michigan/Northwestern
1934 Alabama/Tulane
1935 Minnesota/Ohio State
1939 Georgia Tech/Tennessee/Tulane
1943 Michigan/Purdue
1946 Georgia/Tennessee
1948 California/Oregon
1951 Georgia Tech/Tennessee
1953 Duke/Maryland
1955 Duke/Maryland
1961 Alabama/LSU
1966 Alabama/Georgia
1973 Michigan/Ohio State
1981 Alabama/Georgia
2002 Iowa/Ohio State

I looked it up once, but something like a third of tOSU's titles were shared.

Good stat.

Since 1930, 18 undisputed and 14 shared (if I counted right). 9 of those shared titles were shared with hated rival Michigan.

I'm sure everyone will survive if UL and GS share the title this year.

(11-03-2014 07:17 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 06:43 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 05:51 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  You can criticize Cajun fans for speaking their mind about the conference but here is my take and why it is deserved. Last year we beat A-State and shared the title with them I don't think its right but we went into the last two games needing one victory to be out right champions we failed so heck at two losses it's fair if three teams would have shared. We had our chance and blew it no excuses. But this year Cajuns and GaSo could go undefeated in conference (lots of football left to be played) and have to share the title at 8-0. Both teams would have done everything ask of them in the conference and not be the sole award winner for the hard work. If that happens I think both fan bases should be upset to not lose a conference game but share the title. The conference is making all of us the laughing stock of the G-5 world. If we both lose a game all bets are off then best records deserve to share.

No one likes to hear the truth! The fact of the matter is we are already the laughing stock of the G-5 world and our membership hasn't helped. Benson is a clown and most know it. We have a transition FCS program that is sitting at the top of the standings in its first year and could share or win the title outright. The fact that outside of ASU and UL whom are not on their schedule, no existing member seems capable of defeating them. We don't even care about basketball enough to host a conference basketball media day in New Orleans. So my friend, were are considered a joke right now by most standards.

1) It is a very good thing that one of our transition schools is doing so well and getting lots of press about it. If they were doing lousy there would be complaining about how the conference was a laughingstock because they were lousy. I have heard nobody in the press deriding the Sun Belt because Georgia Southern is doing well...only Cajuns on this board.

2) Your argument seems to be that our conference is getting bad press so let's make it worse and repeat that over and over and over. That makes zero sense. It harms your own program. And if you wanted the conference to be perceived better this year then you shouldn't have gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech. Our transitional teams had nothing to do with that.

You can debate this all night, the fact that you are unwilling to look at reality explains why ASU fans continue to vote themselves as the Sun Belt Conference's best fans in some conspicuous poll on your website. You guys remind me of the people that say things like "We don't talk about those things", all the while ignoring the elephant in the room.

So admitting what you are is harming yourself? I will make sure to pass that on to the next addict I meet, don't admit you are an addict because it will hurt your confidence. Looking in the mirror doesn't hurt every now and then, it certainly doesn't change who we are right now. I know who we are and I know who you are right now as well, so please by all means continue to believe what you want. It doesn't change that fact that you are in the Sun Belt Conference and that is how most fans, athletes and media outside the members on the board perceive both us today.

(11-03-2014 07:33 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:13 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  Please enlighten us on how many of those co-champs have been undefeated in conference play

Here are a few post 1930.

1930 Michigan/Northwestern
1934 Alabama/Tulane
1935 Minnesota/Ohio State
1939 Georgia Tech/Tennessee/Tulane
1943 Michigan/Purdue
1946 Georgia/Tennessee
1948 California/Oregon
1951 Georgia Tech/Tennessee
1953 Duke/Maryland
1955 Duke/Maryland
1961 Alabama/LSU
1966 Alabama/Georgia
1973 Michigan/Ohio State
1981 Alabama/Georgia
2002 Iowa/Ohio State

The fact that you had to look them up explains their relevance today. But just for fun, how many were new members in those conferences? Ooops, I think those examples just became even more irrelevant.

(11-03-2014 08:38 PM)Klak Wrote:  I'm sure everyone will survive if UL and GS share the title this year.

The only way its a problem is if one of the parties is unhappy being champions....and that's only a problem for them.

(11-03-2014 08:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:38 PM)Klak Wrote:  I'm sure everyone will survive if UL and GS share the title this year.

The only way its a problem is if one of the parties is unhappy being champions....and that's only a problem for them.

Cajuns can lose out and we win out and they would still have a problem with it.

See, with them it works like WWE wrestling. You get the belt by beating the person with the belt. It doesn't matter what you did in the other games.

(11-03-2014 08:50 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:38 PM)Klak Wrote:  I'm sure everyone will survive if UL and GS share the title this year.

The only way its a problem is if one of the parties is unhappy being champions....and that's only a problem for them.

Cajuns can lose out and we win out and they would still have a problem with it.

See, with them it works like WWE wrestling. You get the belt by beating the person with the belt. It doesn't matter what you did in the other games.

Sorry. Under your scenario we'd probably sit in the corner and shut the **** up.

Even if we lost one and you didn't we'd acknowledge what you did. Id hope you'd do the same when the roles are reversed.

(11-03-2014 08:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:38 PM)Klak Wrote:  I'm sure everyone will survive if UL and GS share the title this year.

The only way its a problem is if one of the parties is unhappy being champions....and that's only a problem for them.

Personally I'm tired of your holier than thou lectures. Its like your trying to create bad blood between Cajuns and GS.

And I'd rather win my championship on my merits than by hoping someone else can do what I couldn't do. But that's just me.

I'd gladly share it with GS this year especially when it means we aren't sharing it with you.

(11-03-2014 10:50 PM)AstroCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:45 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:38 PM)Klak Wrote:  I'm sure everyone will survive if UL and GS share the title this year.

The only way its a problem is if one of the parties is unhappy being champions....and that's only a problem for them.

Personally I'm tired of your holier than thou lectures. Its like your trying to create bad blood between Cajuns and GS.

And I'd rather win my championship on my merits than by hoping someone else can do what I couldn't do. But that's just me.

I'd gladly share it with GS this year especially when it means we aren't sharing it with you.

Everything anybody says about anything is viewed as trying to cause bad blood in some way by Cajuns fans. If you grow tired...take a break from message boards.

(11-03-2014 08:39 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:17 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 06:43 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 05:51 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  You can criticize Cajun fans for speaking their mind about the conference but here is my take and why it is deserved. Last year we beat A-State and shared the title with them I don't think its right but we went into the last two games needing one victory to be out right champions we failed so heck at two losses it's fair if three teams would have shared. We had our chance and blew it no excuses. But this year Cajuns and GaSo could go undefeated in conference (lots of football left to be played) and have to share the title at 8-0. Both teams would have done everything ask of them in the conference and not be the sole award winner for the hard work. If that happens I think both fan bases should be upset to not lose a conference game but share the title. The conference is making all of us the laughing stock of the G-5 world. If we both lose a game all bets are off then best records deserve to share.

No one likes to hear the truth! The fact of the matter is we are already the laughing stock of the G-5 world and our membership hasn't helped. Benson is a clown and most know it. We have a transition FCS program that is sitting at the top of the standings in its first year and could share or win the title outright. The fact that outside of ASU and UL whom are not on their schedule, no existing member seems capable of defeating them. We don't even care about basketball enough to host a conference basketball media day in New Orleans. So my friend, were are considered a joke right now by most standards.

1) It is a very good thing that one of our transition schools is doing so well and getting lots of press about it. If they were doing lousy there would be complaining about how the conference was a laughingstock because they were lousy. I have heard nobody in the press deriding the Sun Belt because Georgia Southern is doing well...only Cajuns on this board.

2) Your argument seems to be that our conference is getting bad press so let's make it worse and repeat that over and over and over. That makes zero sense. It harms your own program. And if you wanted the conference to be perceived better this year then you shouldn't have gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech. Our transitional teams had nothing to do with that.

You can debate this all night, the fact that you are unwilling to look at reality explains why ASU fans continue to vote themselves as the Sun Belt Conference's best fans in some conspicuous poll on your website. You guys remind me of the people that say things like "We don't talk about those things", all the while ignoring the elephant in the room.

So admitting what you are is harming yourself? I will make sure to pass that on to the next addict I meet, don't admit you are an addict because it will hurt your confidence. Looking in the mirror doesn't hurt every now and then, it certainly doesn't change who we are right now. I know who we are and I know who you are right now as well, so please by all means continue to believe what you want. It doesn't change that fact that you are in the Sun Belt Conference and that is how most fans, athletes and media outside the members on the board perceive both us today.

That's the problem. You never admit to what UL-L is. You never include UL-L in your low opinion of the SBC. You think everything about the SBC and CUSA is beneath UL-L, and you're frustrated that the only people that realize this are the people that live in Lafayette, LA. Truth is, every single G5 conference member has 90% more in common with other G5 conference members than we do with P5 conference members. That includes the Boise's of the world and it dang sure includes UL-L. So lighten up on the rest of us Francis. We all know exactly what we are.

(11-04-2014 07:03 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:39 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:17 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 06:43 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 05:51 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  You can criticize Cajun fans for speaking their mind about the conference but here is my take and why it is deserved. Last year we beat A-State and shared the title with them I don't think its right but we went into the last two games needing one victory to be out right champions we failed so heck at two losses it's fair if three teams would have shared. We had our chance and blew it no excuses. But this year Cajuns and GaSo could go undefeated in conference (lots of football left to be played) and have to share the title at 8-0. Both teams would have done everything ask of them in the conference and not be the sole award winner for the hard work. If that happens I think both fan bases should be upset to not lose a conference game but share the title. The conference is making all of us the laughing stock of the G-5 world. If we both lose a game all bets are off then best records deserve to share.

No one likes to hear the truth! The fact of the matter is we are already the laughing stock of the G-5 world and our membership hasn't helped. Benson is a clown and most know it. We have a transition FCS program that is sitting at the top of the standings in its first year and could share or win the title outright. The fact that outside of ASU and UL whom are not on their schedule, no existing member seems capable of defeating them. We don't even care about basketball enough to host a conference basketball media day in New Orleans. So my friend, were are considered a joke right now by most standards.

1) It is a very good thing that one of our transition schools is doing so well and getting lots of press about it. If they were doing lousy there would be complaining about how the conference was a laughingstock because they were lousy. I have heard nobody in the press deriding the Sun Belt because Georgia Southern is doing well...only Cajuns on this board.

2) Your argument seems to be that our conference is getting bad press so let's make it worse and repeat that over and over and over. That makes zero sense. It harms your own program. And if you wanted the conference to be perceived better this year then you shouldn't have gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech. Our transitional teams had nothing to do with that.

You can debate this all night, the fact that you are unwilling to look at reality explains why ASU fans continue to vote themselves as the Sun Belt Conference's best fans in some conspicuous poll on your website. You guys remind me of the people that say things like "We don't talk about those things", all the while ignoring the elephant in the room.

So admitting what you are is harming yourself? I will make sure to pass that on to the next addict I meet, don't admit you are an addict because it will hurt your confidence. Looking in the mirror doesn't hurt every now and then, it certainly doesn't change who we are right now. I know who we are and I know who you are right now as well, so please by all means continue to believe what you want. It doesn't change that fact that you are in the Sun Belt Conference and that is how most fans, athletes and media outside the members on the board perceive both us today.

That's the problem. You never admit to what UL-L is. You never include UL-L in your low opinion of the SBC. You think everything about the SBC and CUSA is beneath UL-L, and you're frustrated that the only people that realize this are the people that live in Lafayette, LA. Truth is, every single G5 conference member has 90% more in common with other G5 conference members than we do with P5 conference members. That includes the Boise's of the world and it dang sure includes UL-L. So lighten up on the rest of us Francis. We all know exactly what we are.

So we shouldn't try to make the conference better? Just accept what we are and stop trying to move forward? How did that work out for Karl and the WAC?

(11-04-2014 08:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-04-2014 07:03 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:39 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:17 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 06:43 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  No one likes to hear the truth! The fact of the matter is we are already the laughing stock of the G-5 world and our membership hasn't helped. Benson is a clown and most know it. We have a transition FCS program that is sitting at the top of the standings in its first year and could share or win the title outright. The fact that outside of ASU and UL whom are not on their schedule, no existing member seems capable of defeating them. We don't even care about basketball enough to host a conference basketball media day in New Orleans. So my friend, were are considered a joke right now by most standards.

1) It is a very good thing that one of our transition schools is doing so well and getting lots of press about it. If they were doing lousy there would be complaining about how the conference was a laughingstock because they were lousy. I have heard nobody in the press deriding the Sun Belt because Georgia Southern is doing well...only Cajuns on this board.

2) Your argument seems to be that our conference is getting bad press so let's make it worse and repeat that over and over and over. That makes zero sense. It harms your own program. And if you wanted the conference to be perceived better this year then you shouldn't have gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech. Our transitional teams had nothing to do with that.

You can debate this all night, the fact that you are unwilling to look at reality explains why ASU fans continue to vote themselves as the Sun Belt Conference's best fans in some conspicuous poll on your website. You guys remind me of the people that say things like "We don't talk about those things", all the while ignoring the elephant in the room.

So admitting what you are is harming yourself? I will make sure to pass that on to the next addict I meet, don't admit you are an addict because it will hurt your confidence. Looking in the mirror doesn't hurt every now and then, it certainly doesn't change who we are right now. I know who we are and I know who you are right now as well, so please by all means continue to believe what you want. It doesn't change that fact that you are in the Sun Belt Conference and that is how most fans, athletes and media outside the members on the board perceive both us today.

That's the problem. You never admit to what UL-L is. You never include UL-L in your low opinion of the SBC. You think everything about the SBC and CUSA is beneath UL-L, and you're frustrated that the only people that realize this are the people that live in Lafayette, LA. Truth is, every single G5 conference member has 90% more in common with other G5 conference members than we do with P5 conference members. That includes the Boise's of the world and it dang sure includes UL-L. So lighten up on the rest of us Francis. We all know exactly what we are.

So we shouldn't try to make the conference better? Just accept what we are and stop trying to move forward? How did that work out for Karl and the WAC?

trying to "move forward" is different from constantly bashing the rest of the conference.

(11-04-2014 08:22 AM)NCeagle Wrote:  

(11-04-2014 08:11 AM)Louisiana99 Wrote:  

(11-04-2014 07:03 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 08:39 PM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:17 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  1) It is a very good thing that one of our transition schools is doing so well and getting lots of press about it. If they were doing lousy there would be complaining about how the conference was a laughingstock because they were lousy. I have heard nobody in the press deriding the Sun Belt because Georgia Southern is doing well...only Cajuns on this board.

2) Your argument seems to be that our conference is getting bad press so let's make it worse and repeat that over and over and over. That makes zero sense. It harms your own program. And if you wanted the conference to be perceived better this year then you shouldn't have gotten blown out by Louisiana Tech. Our transitional teams had nothing to do with that.

You can debate this all night, the fact that you are unwilling to look at reality explains why ASU fans continue to vote themselves as the Sun Belt Conference's best fans in some conspicuous poll on your website. You guys remind me of the people that say things like "We don't talk about those things", all the while ignoring the elephant in the room.

So admitting what you are is harming yourself? I will make sure to pass that on to the next addict I meet, don't admit you are an addict because it will hurt your confidence. Looking in the mirror doesn't hurt every now and then, it certainly doesn't change who we are right now. I know who we are and I know who you are right now as well, so please by all means continue to believe what you want. It doesn't change that fact that you are in the Sun Belt Conference and that is how most fans, athletes and media outside the members on the board perceive both us today.

That's the problem. You never admit to what UL-L is. You never include UL-L in your low opinion of the SBC. You think everything about the SBC and CUSA is beneath UL-L, and you're frustrated that the only people that realize this are the people that live in Lafayette, LA. Truth is, every single G5 conference member has 90% more in common with other G5 conference members than we do with P5 conference members. That includes the Boise's of the world and it dang sure includes UL-L. So lighten up on the rest of us Francis. We all know exactly what we are.

So we shouldn't try to make the conference better? Just accept what we are and stop trying to move forward? How did that work out for Karl and the WAC?

trying to "move forward" is different from constantly bashing the rest of the conference.

I bash the bald man who is supposed to be in New Orleans but instead does all his live interviews from the golf course. You know the guy we hired right after he destroyed the WAC?

(11-03-2014 08:38 PM)Klak Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:50 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:33 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(11-03-2014 07:13 PM)CAJUNCOUNTRY Wrote:  Please enlighten us on how many of those co-champs have been undefeated in conference play

Here are a few post 1930.

1930 Michigan/Northwestern
1934 Alabama/Tulane
1935 Minnesota/Ohio State
1939 Georgia Tech/Tennessee/Tulane
1943 Michigan/Purdue
1946 Georgia/Tennessee
1948 California/Oregon
1951 Georgia Tech/Tennessee
1953 Duke/Maryland
1955 Duke/Maryland
1961 Alabama/LSU
1966 Alabama/Georgia
1973 Michigan/Ohio State
1981 Alabama/Georgia
2002 Iowa/Ohio State

I looked it up once, but something like a third of tOSU's titles were shared.

Good stat.

Since 1930, 18 undisputed and 14 shared (if I counted right). 9 of those shared titles were shared with hated rival Michigan.

I'm sure everyone will survive if UL and GS share the title this year.

Thanks for proving my point while every other conference now have a way to provide an outright champion providing they go undefeated we are still on 2002's standard by time we get to 2014's standard everyone else would have moved on to something else. If we want to be taken seriously as a conference we need to catch up sooner rather than later.