Hello There, Guest! Registered users see far less ads! Register today and join our virtual tailgate. (Login — Register)

Post Reply 
Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
Author Message
georgia_tech_swagger Offline
Res publica non dominetur
*

Posts: 52,979
Joined: Feb 2002
Reputation: 2415
I Root For: GT, USCU, FU, WYO
Location: Upstate, SC

SkunkworksFolding@NCAAbbsNCAAbbs LUGCrappies
Post: #21
RE: Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
So he's honest .... he doesn't care for the government telling him what he can and cannot do with his body .... he works for a living .... and he has held gainful employment outside of lobbying, academia, government, law, and/or government contractors.

Sign me up.
(This post was last modified: 10-28-2014 09:22 PM by georgia_tech_swagger.)
10-28-2014 09:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
jh Offline
All American
*

Posts: 3,476
Joined: May 2007
Reputation: 80
I Root For:
Location:

Donators
Post: #22
RE: Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
(10-28-2014 04:35 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  That's what i don't understand JH
Why virtually no liberals, who above all should believe in the right to be who you are, would not support a party that encourages individual liberty over one who encourages conformity. The left would argue that they don't encourage conformity but that is far far from the truth... they merely encourage a different set of social norms than the right.

It is my sense that left-libertarianism is growing as more liberals become disenchanted with the Democratic Party. I think that is part of what motivates the thick v. thin libertarianism debates (of which I've paid virtually no attention, other to note that people get very passionate about their positions, so I can't really explain it).
10-28-2014 10:30 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Fo Shizzle Offline
Pragmatic Classical Liberal
*

Posts: 41,888
Joined: Dec 2006
Reputation: 1206
I Root For: ECU PIRATES
Location: North Carolina

Balance of Power Contest
Post: #23
RE: Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
I tend to agree with the OP. His ad campaign is..."get high with Haugh". There is nothing wrong with having legalization on your platform..but..to make it a central theme of your campaign makes you look clownish.

I agree with others here that I admire his honesty on this issue.
10-29-2014 05:41 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Owl 69/70/75 Offline
Just an old rugby coach
*

Posts: 82,008
Joined: Sep 2005
Reputation: 3446
I Root For: RiceBathChelsea
Location: Montgomery, TX

DonatorsNew Orleans Bowl
Post: #24
RE: Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
(10-28-2014 03:32 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  It's just unfortunate that we can't have a legitimate 3rd party in this country. That's the point of the OP. I don't believe that Libertarians are a legitimate threat because MANY of them tend to have bizarre fringe views on certain things that social conservatives will NOT tolerate. If you can't get the social conservative vote you're not getting elected, plain and simple.

Social conservatives are not the libertarians' target demographic. Libertarians would be just fine if social conservatives voted republican, tax-and-spend and deficit-and-spend big government types voted democrat, and the rest voted libertarian. Right now, you've got the no-abortions-ever 25% solid republicans, the gay-marriage-and-abortion-on-demand 25% solid democrats, and the other 50% of the electorate having to choose between tax-and-spend or deficit-and-spend, both of which they hate.

In a 3-party race where 40% wins going away, that 50% wins for you. And both democrats and republicans know that, and they know they don't want anybody messing up their franchises, so they keep plenty of barriers to entry around.
10-29-2014 05:57 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mlb Offline
O' Great One
*

Posts: 23,537
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 1136
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location:

Donators
Post: #25
RE: Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
(10-28-2014 04:23 PM)jh Wrote:  If Libertarian candidates appealed to social conservatives, how would they distinguish themselves from Republicans?

The libertarians would actually be fiscally conservative... I hope they don't go the social conservative route, however.
10-29-2014 08:54 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
DaSaintFan Offline
Dum' Sutherner in Midwest!
*

Posts: 17,170
Joined: Mar 2010
Reputation: 595
I Root For: Southern Miss
Location: Stuck in St. Louis
Post: #26
RE: Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
(10-28-2014 03:14 PM)mlb Wrote:  
(10-28-2014 03:08 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Uhm.. Romney's dad was in politics all of 10 years. Governor of Michigan, Sect. of Urban Development. That does not IMO, qualify aas a career politician familiy.

He was also the Secretary of HUD (appointed position) after his failed Presidential bid.

Quote:Bob Dole would have fallen in that category, but he was basically a "throw away" candidate, given that being up against Clinton, and due to the economic boom at the time, you knew he was getting shellaced.

So he'd fall in your line of reasoning, although you could argue he's been a career politician.

I fail to see where Bob Dole fits any of my idea of someone who truly worked from scratch to build something. He is a veteran, and for that I like him, but he started in politics in 1950.

You referred to candidates that "came from a political family"... that's why I put in my note about arguing that he became a career politician.
10-29-2014 09:36 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
mlb Offline
O' Great One
*

Posts: 23,537
Joined: Mar 2004
Reputation: 1136
I Root For: Cincinnati
Location:

Donators
Post: #27
RE: Another example of why Libertarians aren't taken seriously...
(10-29-2014 09:36 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  You referred to candidates that "came from a political family"... that's why I put in my note about arguing that he became a career politician.

Ok, gotcha. I thought you were saying he is a guy with whom I could vote because he built something from the ground up.
10-29-2014 09:45 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2026 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2026 MyBB Group.