I believe so. That kid put this team on his back and carried them to victory when Cato had his worst game in quite a while accuracy wise (he wasn't pressured, and receivers were open, he couldnt hit the broadside of a barn on the deep ball today). Thats what makes us a complete team, if we cant run we throw, if we cant throw, we run.... if we cant do either, our defense keeps us in it. And hats off the FAU for a phenomenal game todaym really tested us and a very athletic and tough team with a ton of heart, and solidly coached. Love the game plan to attack our nickel base with power rushing and uptempo that won't allow subbing.

Anyway, Johnson is a beast. What a surprise this season. He may just eclipse 2000 yards and 30 tds rushing this season and set the cusa record.

Spot on analysis. He's been a real find for Doc. This young man is a beast, and I'm glad he has the single game Marshall record under his belt now. I also agree Cato didn't have a great game.

Good back but once again too much hype.

(10-25-2014 08:38 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  Good back but once again too much hype.

How so? When the ncaa stats are compiled after the weekend is over he will be ranked in the top 5 in yards, yards per carry and touchdowns. If not top 5 in those three, he will be very close.

Over hyped because he doesn't play for LA Tech Banker.. there are some good backs in this league especially the kid at UTEP but I wouldn't trade any of them for Johnson.. IMHO I think he is the best back in this league hands down.. He wasn't even 100% healthy today

He's a legit NFL talent. Built for the next level. Beast.

Not taking anything away from him, but the TD's today were just blown coverages. He does have excellent breakway speed though.

Devon Johnson this game:

24 Carries, 272 yards, 4 TDs

Though the year:

137 carries, 1203 yards, 13 TDs
5 receptions, 98 yards, 2 TDs

His 2 receiving TDs were 47 (his number) yards and 22 yards.

And to think this kid was a TE his freshman and sophomore seasons and would still be there if Kevin Grooms hadn't have got stupid again. I want to personally thank Grooms.

(10-25-2014 09:02 PM)WalkThePlank Wrote:  He's a legit NFL talent. Built for the next level. Beast.

Not taking anything away from him, but the TD's today were just blown coverages. He does have excellent breakway speed though.

Ive been saying it all year...The kid is a Mike Alstott clone. He is built just like Alstott.

Blown coverage or not. Johnson shows he is faster than you think when he gets in the open field.

(10-25-2014 08:38 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  Good back but once again too much hype.

Please ask anyone we have faced if that is too much hype. Or watch him play.

His stat line after today.

137 carries, 1203 yards, 15 tds, 5 receptions, 98 receiving yards, 2 receiving TDs, 8.77 ypc, 150 yards per game.

That is elite. Incomplete stats list but that would make him 2nd in rushing yards, 2nd in ypc and 3rd or 4th in tds thus far. Thats with 50 less carries roughly than the leading rusher from nebraska (abdullah).... kid is really good.

(10-25-2014 09:07 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:38 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  Good back but once again too much hype.

Please ask anyone we have faced if that is too much hype. Or watch him play.

His stat line after today.

137 carries, 1203 yards, 15 tds, 5 receptions, 98 receiving yards, 2 receiving TDs, 8.77 ypc, 150 yards per game.

That is elite. Incomplete stats list but that would make him 2nd in rushing yards, 2nd in ypc and 3rd or 4th in tds thus far. Thats with 50 less carries roughly than the leading rusher from nebraska (abdullah).... kid is really good.

But he isn't Kenneth Dixon....That's what Cscollis really wants to say.

Lets compare the 2 shall we.

Kenneth Dixon
151 carries, 681 yards, 7 TDs
18 receptions, 208 yards 2 TDs

Devon Johnson
137 carries 1203 yards, 13 TDs
5 receptions, 98 yards, 2 TDs

Johnson has 522 more yards on the ground with 14 less carries. He has the same amount of TDs through the air and has 110 less reception yards with Dixon having 13 more receptions than Johnson.

(10-25-2014 09:26 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 09:07 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:38 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  Good back but once again too much hype.

Please ask anyone we have faced if that is too much hype. Or watch him play.

His stat line after today.

137 carries, 1203 yards, 15 tds, 5 receptions, 98 receiving yards, 2 receiving TDs, 8.77 ypc, 150 yards per game.

That is elite. Incomplete stats list but that would make him 2nd in rushing yards, 2nd in ypc and 3rd or 4th in tds thus far. Thats with 50 less carries roughly than the leading rusher from nebraska (abdullah).... kid is really good.

But he isn't Kenneth Dixon....That's what Cscollis really wants to say.

Lets compare the 2 shall we.

Kenneth Dixon
151 carries, 681 yards, 7 TDs
18 receptions, 208 yards 2 TDs

Devon Johnson
137 carries 1203 yards, 13 TDs
5 receptions, 98 yards, 2 TDs

Johnson has 522 more yards on the ground with 14 less carries. He has the same amount of TDs through the air and has 110 less reception yards with Dixon having 13 more receptions than Johnson.

Herdzoned. See my post above. You are shortchangimg DJ by 2 tds. He has 15 rushing, 2 receiving. Total 17 tds

(10-25-2014 08:26 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Anyway, Johnson is a beast. What a surprise this season. He may just eclipse 2000 yards and 30 tds rushing this season and set the cusa record.

He's averaging 1.875 TDs and 154 yards per game.

To get to 2,000 and 30 TDs he'll need to average 2.5 TDs and 133 yards per game and the 6 games in front of him are against better competition than the eight behind him, between a bowl oopponent, CCG opponent and solid squads in Rice and UAB.

2,000 yards seems to be a very reachable goal, not a lock, but I'd say it's more likely that he gets there than he doesn't, 30 TDs may be a bit more far fetched.

With only an increase of ~13 yards per game, he could become only the fourth player to reach 2200 yards rushing.

6 games left at 150 per game = 900 more yards. 2100 there.

15 tds, 6 more games, so basically 27tds there rushing. He will hit 2000 yards IF he gets 16-20 carries per game. The TDs are less likely, but he could do it. Either way, very impressive. Lucky to have this kid back too next year, when breaking in a new QB

(10-25-2014 11:02 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  6 games left at 150 per game = 900 more yards. 2100 there.

15 tds, 6 more games, so basically 27tds there rushing. He will hit 2000 yards IF he gets 16-20 carries per game. The TDs are less likely, but he could do it. Either way, very impressive. Lucky to have this kid back too next year, when breaking in a new QB

Thanks for the math? I said he only needs 133 ypg to get to 2,000.

I said it's more likely that he gets there than he doesn't, he doesn't, there are just variables you can't account for, that's the only reason I said it's not a lock.

This dude has single handily probably won my college fantasy football league for me...Because of this board I was able to see that he was Technically a TIght End but could be used at running back...That is a disadvantage that belongs to me in college fantasy...This guy is Number 1 in college fantasy...Thanks Marshall fans, hope he keeps it up!

Wrote this on Tuesday. Just puts in perspective what he is doing.

Devon Johnson has rushed for 931 in 7 games leaving him just 69 yards shy of eclipsing 1,000. In the modern era of Marshall football the earliest a player has eclipsed 1,000 yards was in Game 9. Chris parker went over the 1,000 yards mark in game 9 in both the 1993 and 1995 seaosn and Ahmad did it in game 9 of the 2006 season. The craziest part is Decon has on ly carreid the ball 10 times for 41 yards in the 4th quarter.

Just think we if didn't go so deep at the RB position. Like I posted in the other thread Devon is on pace for 1,862 yards. That is 29 yards more than Chris Parker's record set back in 1995. If Johnson continues to do this at his current pace he will break Parker's record with 120 less carries an one less game. Parker needed 349 carries and 15 games to get 1,833 yards in 1995. So per game Parker was averaging 23.27 carries per game vs Devon's 16.1. So if you gave Devon 23.27 carries per game this season he would rush for 2,671 yards.

My math if you want to check it. I am having a hard time believing it too.

Parker carried the ball 349 times for 1,833 yards.
Parker averaged 23.27 carries per game. (349 carries /15 games)

Devon averages 8.2 yards per carry. (931 yards /113 carries)
23.27 carries per game x 8.2 yards per carry = 190.81 yards per game
190.81 yards per game x 14 games = 2,671 yards rushing

Now think about this. Devon starts as a freshman at RB and is a feature back. This kid is a monster.

(10-25-2014 11:51 PM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  This dude has single handily probably won my college fantasy football league for me...Because of this board I was able to see that he was Technically a TIght End but could be used at running back...That is a disadvantage that belongs to me in college fantasy...This guy is Number 1 in college fantasy...Thanks Marshall fans, hope he keeps it up!

He was a TE up until a day before fall camp. After Doc dismissed Kevin Grooms he didn't trust anyone to pick up the blitz's so he moved Devon from TE to RB. Johnson ran for 4362 yards as a RB in HS.

For me, Id love to see Grooms so I could hug him for screwing up again. If Grooms doesn't screw up, Johnson would probably be stuck behind Eric Frohnapfel and Ryan Yurachek playing TE sparingly. And Yurachek's back up next year.

(10-25-2014 09:26 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 09:07 PM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  

(10-25-2014 08:38 PM)Cscollis Wrote:  Good back but once again too much hype.

Please ask anyone we have faced if that is too much hype. Or watch him play.

His stat line after today.

137 carries, 1203 yards, 15 tds, 5 receptions, 98 receiving yards, 2 receiving TDs, 8.77 ypc, 150 yards per game.

That is elite. Incomplete stats list but that would make him 2nd in rushing yards, 2nd in ypc and 3rd or 4th in tds thus far. Thats with 50 less carries roughly than the leading rusher from nebraska (abdullah).... kid is really good.

But he isn't Kenneth Dixon....That's what Cscollis really wants to say.

Lets compare the 2 shall we.

Kenneth Dixon
151 carries, 681 yards, 7 TDs
18 receptions, 208 yards 2 TDs

Devon Johnson
137 carries 1203 yards, 13 TDs
5 receptions, 98 yards, 2 TDs

Johnson has 522 more yards on the ground with 14 less carries. He has the same amount of TDs through the air and has 110 less reception yards with Dixon having 13 more receptions than Johnson.

I'm sure Johnson's very good, but since YOU brought it up, let's not forget that some of Dixon's yards were produced against such competition as Oklahoma and Auburn, while the Marshall guy's yards were compiled against the likes of Rhode Island and Ohio. Just saying......

Lol... really? He had like 30 carries in both those games combined. And still has 14 less than dixon.

Lets not get into a pissing match here, Dixon is a good back,no doubt, but only a fool would pick Dixon over Johnson when putting together their all star team.

(10-26-2014 12:40 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote:  Lol... really? He had like 30 carries in both those games combined. And still has 14 less than dixon.

Lets not get into a pissing match here, Dixon is a good back,no doubt, but only a fool would pick Dixon over Johnson when putting together their all star team.

We'll see which one has the best NFL career...

DJ has been MU's offensive MVP by a mile imho. It's what the Herd really has never had in my 40 yrs. of watching them: a power back w/ speed. They've had guys that might've been, but our staff always called them LB'ers: star RB's in HS, slightly undersized for LB's, but great athletes and MU has always let those guys play the defensive side of the ball. Saw a few posts about how offenses have exposed the weakness of MU's D, and it's true and always has been: Marshall wants a fast paced game, is geared towards it, and power running teams, especially ones where a QB can run are kryptonite to the Herd. FIU, MTSU, and to a greater degree FAU showed this, as have Toledo in yrs. past(and Rice who throttled MU w/ it and P/A passes last season). Most of our teams can't have it both ways, both big and stout and fast as hell on the front 6 or 7. MU's always gone smaller and quicker when they've been successful, when they went big(Mark Snyder days) lots of spread teams just lit 'em up like a pinball. Just hope this young man can stay healthy, great back and really the difference in the success of Marshall this season imho.