(10-13-2014 08:51 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 04:10 PM)northcoastRocket Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 03:30 PM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  The offense scored 18 points.

That's a little silly IMHO. Extra points only happened after the offense scored a touchdown. The field goals only had a chance to be attempted after the offense moved the ball into position. The offense gets credit for all 30 points in this case.

Again, that is not the offense scoring those points, it is special teams. And I'm not saying the offense does not move the ball. Unfortunately, they don't give points for that. We're having to settle for FG attempts too often. Thankfully we have a great kicker.

You're still reaching. The Toledo OFFENSE scored 30 points against Iowa St.

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(10-12-2014 06:58 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 05:52 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 04:22 PM)Photodan Wrote:  Our top three defensive backs are still injured and you guys think the DC is calling a lot of soft covers and blitzes because he just doesn't know any better? Tough crowd.

Those injured players played last year and the pass defense was just as bad. I really don't blame the players, it's the system.

Couldn't you also turn it around and say this?

The second defensive coordinator in a row had looked at the talent we have at DB and thought we couldn't win playing tight coverage?

WE can't win playing soft coverage

(10-12-2014 11:19 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 10:41 AM)Rocket79 Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 07:40 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 05:50 PM)owen Wrote:  Detmer trying to hog all the glory

Wanted to recover that one himself

kicked it straight in front of himself

It has worked for Pat McAfee and the Colts this year.

Detmer has a long way to go to be in a Pat McAfee sentence. Although we are an excellent under 30 yd FG team, maybe one of the best in the nation. Heck we get lots of attempts Nothing changes until we can score in the red zone and fix that awful defense. Til then it is a coin flip if we win or lose in any game. Remember Akron 2013

I was just talking about kicking and recovering onside kicks.

Wow - Really. That is absolutely laughable....because "Detmer" calls those plays. Love how people talk and say things without knowing the facts.

(10-13-2014 03:40 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 06:58 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 05:52 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 04:22 PM)Photodan Wrote:  Our top three defensive backs are still injured and you guys think the DC is calling a lot of soft covers and blitzes because he just doesn't know any better? Tough crowd.

Those injured players played last year and the pass defense was just as bad. I really don't blame the players, it's the system.

Couldn't you also turn it around and say this?

The second defensive coordinator in a row had looked at the talent we have at DB and thought we couldn't win playing tight coverage?

WE can't win playing soft coverage

We seem to be doing nothing but winning in conference play so far.

(10-13-2014 07:28 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 03:40 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 06:58 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 05:52 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 04:22 PM)Photodan Wrote:  Our top three defensive backs are still injured and you guys think the DC is calling a lot of soft covers and blitzes because he just doesn't know any better? Tough crowd.

Those injured players played last year and the pass defense was just as bad. I really don't blame the players, it's the system.

Couldn't you also turn it around and say this?

The second defensive coordinator in a row had looked at the talent we have at DB and thought we couldn't win playing tight coverage?

WE can't win playing soft coverage

We seem to be doing nothing but winning in conference play so far.

Not the year to consider that a brag I think. It's like saying they could win the GLIAC.

(10-13-2014 03:47 PM)toledorocketsfantoo Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 11:19 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 10:41 AM)Rocket79 Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 07:40 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote:  

(10-11-2014 05:50 PM)owen Wrote:  Detmer trying to hog all the glory

Wanted to recover that one himself

kicked it straight in front of himself

It has worked for Pat McAfee and the Colts this year.

Detmer has a long way to go to be in a Pat McAfee sentence. Although we are an excellent under 30 yd FG team, maybe one of the best in the nation. Heck we get lots of attempts Nothing changes until we can score in the red zone and fix that awful defense. Til then it is a coin flip if we win or lose in any game. Remember Akron 2013

I was just talking about kicking and recovering onside kicks.

Wow - Really. That is absolutely laughable....because "Detmer" calls those plays. Love how people talk and say things without knowing the facts.

I was having fun with that comment.
Detmer is our most reliable scorer.

Its a long shot to recover an onside kick.
But if it had been him that would of been cool considering he is the brightest star on the offense.

(10-13-2014 08:06 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 07:28 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 03:40 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 06:58 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 05:52 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  Those injured players played last year and the pass defense was just as bad. I really don't blame the players, it's the system.

Couldn't you also turn it around and say this?

The second defensive coordinator in a row had looked at the talent we have at DB and thought we couldn't win playing tight coverage?

WE can't win playing soft coverage

We seem to be doing nothing but winning in conference play so far.

Not the year to consider that a brag I think. It's like saying they could win the GLIAC.

The MAC is the conference we belong to and I will be very proud if and when we win the championship this year. (Whether or not it is considered to be a down year)

(10-13-2014 08:38 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 08:06 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 07:28 PM)Photodan Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 03:40 PM)magoo Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 06:58 PM)Photodan Wrote:  Couldn't you also turn it around and say this?

The second defensive coordinator in a row had looked at the talent we have at DB and thought we couldn't win playing tight coverage?

WE can't win playing soft coverage

We seem to be doing nothing but winning in conference play so far.

Not the year to consider that a brag I think. It's like saying they could win the GLIAC.

The MAC is the conference we belong to and I will be very proud if and when we win the championship this year. (Whether or not it is considered to be a down year)

I agree. Several people have mentioned how the MAC is down this year. There is nothing the Rockets can do about that. They can't control how the other teams in the conference do. The only thing they can do is play the games on their schedule. They aren't playing in the College Football Playoff, so the accomplishment that is in front of them is the MAC Championship. It shouldn't be looked at as a consolation prize. It should always be the primary goal for the Rockets. Beating power conference teams and getting national prestige is secondary and a nice bonus when it happens.

How many times have a conference champ or non champ played in a bowl where they were overlooked because of schedule or lack of conference power...then they "upset" their opponent in the bowl game? UCF couldn't possibly barely sneak by Temple then go on to beat Baylor in the Fiesta Bowl??? I remember talking down FIU before the LCB in 2010 because they were in the SBC which was a terrible conference... then T.Y. Hilton happened.

11-3 is possible and then IDC what our conference did! As long as we win the friggin conference and a beat another good team/mediocre team in a bowl game! WIN BABY

(10-13-2014 08:22 PM)owen Wrote:  

(10-13-2014 03:47 PM)toledorocketsfantoo Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 11:19 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 10:41 AM)Rocket79 Wrote:  

(10-12-2014 07:40 AM)Rocket Pirate Wrote:  It has worked for Pat McAfee and the Colts this year.

Detmer has a long way to go to be in a Pat McAfee sentence. Although we are an excellent under 30 yd FG team, maybe one of the best in the nation. Heck we get lots of attempts Nothing changes until we can score in the red zone and fix that awful defense. Til then it is a coin flip if we win or lose in any game. Remember Akron 2013

I was just talking about kicking and recovering onside kicks.

Wow - Really. That is absolutely laughable....because "Detmer" calls those plays. Love how people talk and say things without knowing the facts.

I was having fun with that comment.
Detmer is our most reliable scorer.

Its a long shot to recover an onside kick.
But if it had been him that would of been cool considering he is the brightest star on the offense.

I knew what you were talking about Owen, but two other posters apparently did not. I was just pointing out that the style has worked in other situations.