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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
I feel like the only reason people like Hare is because of that one throw against NU. He's been crap the last few games. If you really think he's the guy, we've been watching different football games.
10-05-2014 07:49 AM
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
Maybe you've seen what both guys will be.

Hare has the best arm, but when things start to go rough, it goes to his head.

Maddie brings energy and moves the ball, but he's prone to mistakes like the one we saw yesterday.

No clear answer at this point. Maybe you let Maddie start next weekend and see if he can continue to put points on the board.

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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
I'll take Maddie and his skill set with his mistakes, but that comes with the caveat of play calling that fits the personnel.

Today, that didn't happen. A bubble screen to Stingily, are you effing kidding me? Too little of Akeem's touches were aimed at the exterior and stingily should get carries withas little guys in the box as possible. Don't put a tight end on his runs, he can't bust it to the outside, so don't let it get clogged in the middle, just get a hat on a hat and let him reach the backers.

They really need to get healthy soon. There's just not the personnel to run this offense as it should if they're only gonna play Canada and Brown on the outside. They're gonna get tired running deep routes and blocking for screens every down. You have got to see what you have with Mitchell and Blake otherwise niu is only going to be able to run a handful of screens and sweeps all day.

Kind of went off, but Maddie has the best skill set for what niu should be IMO.
10-05-2014 08:50 AM
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-04-2014 11:17 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  It was fourth and two! Against Kent! At the 36! The defense was playing well! It was a wimpy call IMHO.

Yeah. And on 3rd down we threw a pass to the sideline. Run Cam up the middle twice. I'm pretty sure we'd pick up the damn first down. It's not rocket science! Sometimes we're too cute for our own good.
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
From all I have seen so far, I would still go with Hare. Maddie's makes poor decisions more often than Hare. Maddie keeps the ball on options when he has no where to go, he decided to throw into double coverage instead of taking off on a run, and when he does run it's side to side a lot. Really all Hare needs to do is put some touch on his deep ball and everyone here would be just fine with him.
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Hare/Maddie discussion
I hear that Jordan Lynch needs something to do. Bring him back, suit him up, and change his name.
10-05-2014 09:05 AM
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
So the 4 weeks is up for McIntosh...whats he up to?...05-stirthepot
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-05-2014 09:04 AM)timxlydon Wrote:  From all I have seen so far, I would still go with Hare. Maddie's makes poor decisions more often than Hare. Maddie keeps the ball on options when he has no where to go, he decided to throw into double coverage instead of taking off on a run, and when he does run it's side to side a lot. Really all Hare needs to do is put some touch on his deep ball and everyone here would be just fine with him.

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I'm with you. I get that it's close but I give the nod to Hare because:

-Better read option decisions.

-Arm strength. When Maddie throws sideline/bubble screens it just takes the ball soooo longggg to get there... the D is able to blow it up before we can execute it.
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-04-2014 09:45 PM)The Frisky Biscuit Wrote:  Hare led NIU to zero points today (I'm not giving him the FG, that was all on the return.). Maddie had 2 good drives and one bowel emptying interception.

Wedel missed a FG in the 1st quarter and Hare probably could have led NIU to another scoring drive if the coaching staff didn't punt on 4th & 3 from the KSU 36-yard line.
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-04-2014 11:35 PM)spanky Wrote:  
(10-04-2014 10:05 PM)houstonhuskie Wrote:  Sad part is this should never have gotten this far.

100% correct.


But our under-qualified coach couldn't pick a QB to start the season....just keep rotating them. That will work. 05-nono

It seems what Carey is employing here is a relief QB system, not a 2 QB system. If the starter struggles then he sits. Had Carey stuck with one guy NIU is not 4-1, more like 2-3 and this board would be going nuts.
As much as we all hoped NIU had that one guy, they dont. We might as well get used to it. NIU had 5 years of exceptional QB play, that made it easy to win games. Now it seems NIU has average QB's...if Carey can win 10 games with these QB's then he will have done a hell of a good job.
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-05-2014 07:49 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  I feel like the only reason people like Hare is because of that one throw against NU. He's been crap the last few games. If you really think he's the guy, we've been watching different football games.
Yup.
10-05-2014 10:43 AM
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-05-2014 10:43 AM)7 Wrote:  
(10-05-2014 07:49 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  I feel like the only reason people like Hare is because of that one throw against NU. He's been crap the last few games. If you really think he's the guy, we've been watching different football games.
Yup.

I think people like Maddie because his name sounds cooler.
10-05-2014 10:46 AM
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-05-2014 10:46 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-05-2014 10:43 AM)7 Wrote:  
(10-05-2014 07:49 AM)HuskieRak Wrote:  I feel like the only reason people like Hare is because of that one throw against NU. He's been crap the last few games. If you really think he's the guy, we've been watching different football games.
Yup.

I think people like Maddie because his name sounds cooler.

My kids love him and Ezra just because some neighbor kids have the same name.
10-05-2014 10:56 AM
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-05-2014 02:23 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-05-2014 01:53 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  I didn't see anyone that was the answer out there today.

There shouldn't be a need for an answer, there should not be a question during Week 6

If there isn't an answer and if the guy they wanted is INJURED...yes there should be.

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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
I keep hearing about Maddie and his special talent. Then i look at the stats and i see Hare averaging 5 ypc and Maddie averaging 6 ypc.

Hare is averaging over 61% completion rate with 8 TDs and 0 INTs.

Why again is Maddie the best option over Hare? Because of that extra 1 ypc?
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
If you think Hare has the same running ability as Maddie, I'm not sure what you're watching.

That would be like me saying Maddie is as good of a passer as Hare because they have pretty much the same completion percentage and YDS/A.
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
This musical chairs - cycle QBs in & out is bull sh*t and it should have stopped by now.

Neither of them can settle into any kind of rhythm or groove with the way Carey is putting them in & out of games. It kills their chance for getting into a groove & the team's too. Hare needs fine tuning but how's that going to happen with Carey pulling him out then putting him back in?

Carey needs to make an effing decision because this crap going on is going to cost us games. Name a guy & lets move forward!
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Hare played all but 1 series of the UNLV and all but 1 series when they game was still in question in the Arkansas game.

The only time it was musical chairs at QB was yesterday when Hare could get nothing going on offense. Would you rather Carey just died with Hare yesterday?
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
Both guys are bad. Maddie never should've thrown that pick but he looked much better than hare yesterday. I wish we saw a healthy McIntosh this year. Just a brutal situation for everyone involved. At this point I say play maddie and run the ball 50 times a game... If we can't win the LOS battle against other MAC teams we don't deserve anything
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RE: Hare/Maddie discussion
(10-05-2014 12:01 PM)7 Wrote:  If you think Hare has the same running ability as Maddie, I'm not sure what you're watching.

That would be like me saying Maddie is as good of a passer as Hare because they have pretty much the same completion percentage and YDS/A.

I haven't seen any of the games because i am unable to, but the stats are the stats. Hare has performed and won us two games against tougher opponents than Kent State. If people believe it should be Maddie because of his feet i just don't see how a 5 ypc is enough of a difference over a 6 ypc when the overall passing stats for Hare are actually pretty decent for a guy who hasn't had the chance to play a full game except for UNLV.
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