(10-02-2014 12:40 AM)Volkmar Wrote:  I'm more concerned about SHSU misspelling their own mascot. Then again, the "Coogs" followed suit later.

It's a Texas thing.

A WKU student made national news after a way to track Ebola


http://wkunews.wordpress.com/2014/09/11/ebola-project/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014...a-tracker/

(10-02-2014 09:01 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 08:00 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  http://www.naturalnews.com/047089_Ebola_...ation.html

There isn't an ounce of truth to anything in that article. Is this a parody site like the Onion?

I'll refute #1 and not going to waste my time with the rest of the garbage.

August 8, 2014 - CDC Director Tom Friedan

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travellers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries - or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control - and are here with symptoms," he said.

I'm not claiming to be qualified in this stuff, or any of that. All I know is a few things.

#1 Never trust the government.

#2 They say it can only be transmitted through bodily fluids, but yet trained physicians wearing hazmat suites are catching this virus.

#3 Never trust the government.

Ebola is like anything else that happens across the ocean: I'm far more afraid of the inevitable bill from federal government weirdos than I am of the "problem" itself.

Well I think its fishy that our government and people like Bill Gates have a patent on the Ebola virus as well as the vaccines for it.


hmmmmmmmmm

(10-02-2014 12:36 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Well I think its fishy that our government and people like Bill Gates have a patent on the Ebola virus as well as the vaccines for it.


hmmmmmmmmm

There is no vaccine for Ebola. But i do agree, do not trust the government. Ever.

(10-02-2014 12:32 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 09:01 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 08:00 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  http://www.naturalnews.com/047089_Ebola_...ation.html

There isn't an ounce of truth to anything in that article. Is this a parody site like the Onion?

I'll refute #1 and not going to waste my time with the rest of the garbage.

August 8, 2014 - CDC Director Tom Friedan

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travellers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries - or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control - and are here with symptoms," he said.

I'm not claiming to be qualified in this stuff, or any of that. All I know is a few things.

#2 They say it can only be transmitted through bodily fluids, but yet trained physicians wearing hazmat suites are catching this virus.

I won't address the trust government issue. I have trusted with my life the people I have worked with and they are inherently "government." The politicians on the other hand well that's another story. Thankfully, this is a science issue and not a poltiical one.

Anyway, the reason why people wearing hazmat suits have been catching the virus is because of mistakes and breakdowns in the decon and removal of the suit on the exit. Obviously, when working with very sick patients it would be expected that some or even a lot of bodily fluids would be on those suits. If they don't follow precise protocol exiting then they could put themselves at risk. Also, in Africa the decon facilities are not always the best set ups. In major U.S. hospitals you have much more sophisticated decon capabilities and isolation facilities.

There is not a vaccine yet, but they have patents on a lot of stuff related to ebola and future vaccines.


Once again, if someone professionally trained in a hazmat suite can catch it.....

(10-02-2014 01:22 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  There is not a vaccine yet, but they have patents on a lot of stuff related to ebola and future vaccines.

You guys are long on conspiracy theories and short on facts. Think about this. Do you really want every Tom, Dick and Harry pharmaceutical company trying to produce an Ebola vaccine? For starters, most vaccine R&D requires live virus. We don't want that floating all over the place, so access is controlled. It prevents a company from trying to file a patent for something they aren't even supposed to have. And if they can't have a patent there is no point (i.e. $$ in trying). Another reason is because pharmaceuatical companies have been very reluctant to even want to go through the process to produce an Ebola vaccine, because the virus is so rare the profits wouldn't be there. There are some things that shouldn't be left to corporate greed.

(10-02-2014 01:22 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  Once again, if someone professionally trained in a hazmat suite can catch it.....

then what??? They are not catching it in the suit. They are catching it out of the suit.

Well TBH, its not that big of a deal to me. You could be right, but I'm here to talk sports. I appreciate your knowledge on this particular subject and respect your opinion, at the same time, yes, I am a conspiracy person. So much so that I do not even like to talk about it online so I'm not really wanting to get into this debate, neither of us are going to change the other persons mind.

Good luck this weekend, hope we both win and make our game next week even more important.

So FlyHawk98, you weren't serious when discussing that plot against the US government where you have specific plans and diagrams located in the spare bedroom of your home?

c'mon mofos!!!! get jerry jones

edit: die hard cowboy fan, but I just can't stand the guy

dang you banker, lol... I can see it now the next time I got to fly. "Sir, you are on the do not fly list due to remarks made on a CUSA message board."

(10-02-2014 01:05 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 12:32 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 09:01 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(10-02-2014 08:00 AM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  http://www.naturalnews.com/047089_Ebola_...ation.html

There isn't an ounce of truth to anything in that article. Is this a parody site like the Onion?

I'll refute #1 and not going to waste my time with the rest of the garbage.

August 8, 2014 - CDC Director Tom Friedan

"It is certainly possible that we could have ill people in the US who develop Ebola after having been exposed elsewhere," Frieden told a hearing of the House Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights and International Organizations.

"We are all connected and inevitably there will be travellers, American citizens and others who go from these three countries - or from Lagos if it doesn't get it under control - and are here with symptoms," he said.

I'm not claiming to be qualified in this stuff, or any of that. All I know is a few things.

#2 They say it can only be transmitted through bodily fluids, but yet trained physicians wearing hazmat suites are catching this virus.

I won't address the trust government issue. I have trusted with my life the people I have worked with and they are inherently "government." The politicians on the other hand well that's another story. Thankfully, this is a science issue and not a poltiical one.

Anyway, the reason why people wearing hazmat suits have been catching the virus is because of mistakes and breakdowns in the decon and removal of the suit on the exit. Obviously, when working with very sick patients it would be expected that some or even a lot of bodily fluids would be on those suits. If they don't follow precise protocol exiting then they could put themselves at risk. Also, in Africa the decon facilities are not always the best set ups. In major U.S. hospitals you have much more sophisticated decon capabilities and isolation facilities.

Contact isolation precautions are always maintained regardless of the risk of transmission. If a doctor gives an order for contact isolation, you will wear the body suit, gloves, and face gaurd. Sometimes, this is also required as a form of reverse isolation to prevent a patient with a compromised immune system from obtaining another bacteria or virus from healthcare workers. I am a nurse and healthcare administrator. I have worked in the field for 19 years. This is standard operating procedure.

Ironically, the doctors contracting the virus in Africa are victims of these foriegn governments. In the United States, we have excellent waste water treatment and sufficient infrastructure to greatly minimize the risk of virus transmission. Contact with bodily fluids is much more difficult to control with a contaminated water supply, and lack of other health promoting services. In this instance, be thankful for the government and the tax money invested.

(10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  No.

This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.

There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.

Let's hold off on all the doomsday speak. Although possible, it's highly highly unlikely.

Fact or Fiction - The Ebola Virus Will Go Airborne.

Quote:But interviews with several infectious diseases experts reveal that whereas such a mutation—or more likely series of mutations—might physically be possible, it’s highly unlikely. In fact, there’s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically.

(10-02-2014 10:46 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote:  dang you banker, lol... I can see it now the next time I got to fly. "Sir, you are on the do not fly list due to remarks made on a CUSA message board."

Yep, you don't even want to know where I currently work!

BTW, I'm with you. Here for sports. I never ever engage in political debates. This one I didn't bring up. I just know what's actually going on here, and as somone who has spent over a decade in public service if there is one thing that bothers me more than anything else it's when people make bad decisions particularly pertaining to public health because they lack trust in the information they are being given.

And that is exactly why Ebola has spread out of control in Africa. The people there have absolutely no faith in the government and the information they are being given to the point they don't even believe the virus is real. That's the sole reason it continues to spread. And the consequences are catastrophic, deadly. Our government isn't perfect by any means but as the previous poster said relative to just about anywhere else in the world it's as good as you're going to get, so I hope you can see through the conspiracies to gain facts and take care of yourself. Cheers!

(10-03-2014 08:16 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  No.

This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.

There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.

Let's hold off on all the doomsday speak. Although possible, it's highly highly unlikely.

Fact or Fiction - The Ebola Virus Will Go Airborne.

Quote:But interviews with several infectious diseases experts reveal that whereas such a mutation—or more likely series of mutations—might physically be possible, it’s highly unlikely. In fact, there’s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically.

The author is using comments by Dr. Michael Osterholm who is very outspoken on issues pertaining to bio agents - an area his unit spends lots of money on researching. I know Dr. Osterholm. He's a highly intellectual individual and while what he says is certainly possible years down the road it's also possible the virus could mutate into a less severe illness at the same time. But Dr. Osterholm also has motives to get additional funding for his research purposes.

Now, with all that said. Who else wants to be put on the No Fly list. I can take requests!

(10-03-2014 08:16 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  No.

This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.

There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.

Let's hold off on all the doomsday speak. Although possible, it's highly highly unlikely.

Fact or Fiction - The Ebola Virus Will Go Airborne.

Quote:But interviews with several infectious diseases experts reveal that whereas such a mutation—or more likely series of mutations—might physically be possible, it’s highly unlikely. In fact, there’s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically.

If you read my followup posts, you'll find that I'm not a doomsayer. I'm fully aware that the likelihood of this version of ebola becoming airborne are extremely unlikely. in fact, it may never happen. It would have to be a miraculous series of mutations for it to occur. By their nature, viruses mutate continuously, which is a significant reason we have difficulty in finding "cures" for viruses. We can develop vaccines to prevent someone from being susceptible to a certain strain of a virus or medicines to lesson the affects but curing it is an entirely different matter, specifically because they mutate continuously.....i.e. HIV

The doomsayers have watched too many of the Hollywood apocalyptic films of recent years and tend to believe the "made for Hollywood" scenarios, most of which are pure imagination..not based on fact.

You guys are missing the point. How cool would a veloca- chicken be?

(10-03-2014 08:37 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-03-2014 08:16 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 06:23 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(10-01-2014 06:00 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  No.

This ebola "panic" in the US is ******* stupid.

There's no panic except among those who have children that attend the schools that the children he came into contact with attend. Their concerns are legitimate. But...as noted above, unless this virus mutates into an airborne virus, it is very unlikely to become pandemic in developed countries. With that said, it could mutate into an airborne virus at any time and if that were to occur, we should all be concerned.

Let's hold off on all the doomsday speak. Although possible, it's highly highly unlikely.

Fact or Fiction - The Ebola Virus Will Go Airborne.

Quote:But interviews with several infectious diseases experts reveal that whereas such a mutation—or more likely series of mutations—might physically be possible, it’s highly unlikely. In fact, there’s almost no historical precedent for any virus to change its basic mode of transmission so radically.

If you read my followup posts, you'll find that I'm not a doomsayer. I'm fully aware that the likelihood of this version of ebola becoming airborne are extremely unlikely. in fact, it may never happen. It would have to be a miraculous series of mutations for it to occur. By their nature, viruses mutate continuously, which is a significant reason we have difficulty in finding "cures" for viruses. We can develop vaccines to prevent someone from being susceptible to a certain strain of a virus or medicines to lesson the affects but curing it is an entirely different matter, specifically because they mutate continuously.....i.e. HIV

The doomsayers have watched too many of the Hollywood apocalyptic films of recent years and tend to believe the "made for Hollywood" scenarios, most of which are pure imagination..not based on fact.

CNN isn't helping. They should be embarrassed of themselves for the way they have been reporting on this. But then again the whole news industry has lost its way.