Cop's Tip For Not Getting Raped By A Cop: 'Don't Get Pulled Over'



In response to the arrests of three law enforcement officials in Oklahoma for sexually assaulting women while on the job, an Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper told women they can avoid getting raped by a cop if they simply follow traffic laws.

Raw Story first pointed out on Tuesday that Capt. George Brown, a state trooper, shared a few tips for women in an interview with local NBC News affiliate KJRH. Brown told the KJRH anchor that women can keep their car doors locked and speak through a cracked window if a trooper approaches them. If the trooper asks a woman to get out of the car, Brown said, she can ask "in a polite way" why he wants her to do that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/23...r=Politics

This is saying "she deserved it."

(09-25-2014 03:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Cop's Tip For Not Getting Raped By A Cop: 'Don't Get Pulled Over'



In response to the arrests of three law enforcement officials in Oklahoma for sexually assaulting women while on the job, an Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper told women they can avoid getting raped by a cop if they simply follow traffic laws.

Raw Story first pointed out on Tuesday that Capt. George Brown, a state trooper, shared a few tips for women in an interview with local NBC News affiliate KJRH. Brown told the KJRH anchor that women can keep their car doors locked and speak through a cracked window if a trooper approaches them. If the trooper asks a woman to get out of the car, Brown said, she can ask "in a polite way" why he wants her to do that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/23...r=Politics

What part of this is untrue?

Who said it was untrue?

(09-25-2014 03:56 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Who said it was untrue?

Is it a bad tip?

I guess I just have little patience for these sorts of posts...

Obviously nobody is condoning rape... anyone who does that should be put UNDER the jail (especially someone in such a position of authority)

Having said that, this response is a bit like like the old joke... Doctor it hurts when I laugh... don't laugh. It's stating the obvious, but if 'the wrong person' says it, suddenly it's some much larger conspiracy.

Look... not every person who speaks to a reporter or in front of a camera is any good at doing so. The guy didn't say that the cop shouldn't be prosecuted, but that isn't much comfort to the person who is getting pulled over and worries about getting raped. Maybe HER rapist simply hasn't been caught yet. What can she do to avoid being raped by a cop? The same thing you'd tell someone about how not to get shot by a drug dealer... don't put yourself in a position to GET shot by them.

I don't think the guy is blaming the woman, I think he's just not particularly skilled at speaking and he's trying to give SOME comfort to someone honestly scared of being raped by a cop... If you're not breaking the law, your chances of being pulled over are far more limited than if you are. If you aren't pulled over by a cop, he can't rape you. That is obvious, and doesn't mean that 'she was asking for it'.

If you're concerned that you're not being pulled over by a real cop, or otherwise simply scared to pull over... some states have phone numbers you can call to verify that he is an actual policeman, and to be directed to a public place or to have more police around before you stop. The cop is similarly informed so that he doesn't think you're just ignoring his lights.

Have you ever seen videos of people eluding police? The cops sure don't appreciate it and tend to overdo their arrest with police brutality. Do you think telling the cop that you're driving to a more populated, or that you want more police at hand will enamor you to that cop? Heck, he'll probably shoot you.

(09-25-2014 05:31 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Have you ever seen videos of people eluding police? The cops sure don't appreciate it and tend to overdo their arrest with police brutality. Do you think telling the cop that you're driving to a more populated, or that you want more police at hand will enamor you to that cop? Heck, he'll probably shoot you.

I said nothing about eluding them. That's why they have phone numbers you can call... who then notify the car in pursuit.

Just the first reference to the practice I found...

Quote:So, what can you do? Even police say you have permission not to stop if you don't believe a real police officer is trying to pull you over. Instead, call 911 and ask the dispatcher for assistance. If all else fails, drive to the nearest precinct.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/229360...in-detroit

If the cop doesn't like it and causes you trouble, there will be cell phone and 911 audio and perhaps even video evidence and far more witnesses. Is it completely without risk? No... so if it's pretty obvious that it's a cop... and if you have reason to think that there was a REASON for him to pull you over (i.e. back to the OP, because you WERE speeding) then you might not want to do this. You certainly shouldn't speed to your destination and you should signal your intentions as best you can.

I know of a case in Texas where a vet was pulled over for speeding on I-10 and didn't pull over immediately because he was afraid of the traffic (small shoulder and lots of trucks) so he drove 2 miles to the next exit... never speeding, motioning to the cops that he understood... signaling as he changed lanes... the overzealous cop said he was 'running', but the video shows he never sped (after the cop lit him up)... The cop yelled at him and was rude, and the guy walked away with a couple million dollars.

An article from the Huff

(09-25-2014 04:35 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  If you're not breaking the law, your chances of being pulled over are far more limited than if you are. If you aren't pulled over by a cop, he can't rape you. That is obvious, and doesn't mean that 'she was asking for it'.

Actually, I don't think this is true, at least not in the context of this discussion.

First, it's virtually impossible to obey every traffic law 100% of the time while you are driving. If a cop wants to pull you over for a traffic infraction, they will find a way. That's why so many traffic violations are used as pretextual stops to allow police to check other things.

More importantly, I doubt these officers really care whether or not their victims are actually breaking the law before they assault them. I have a hard time believing a rapist would be a stickler for due process when selecting his victims. If a cop car flashes its lights behind a driver on the freeway, the vast majority of people are going to pull over regardless of whether or not they've done anything wrong.

(09-25-2014 03:52 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-25-2014 03:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Cop's Tip For Not Getting Raped By A Cop: 'Don't Get Pulled Over'



In response to the arrests of three law enforcement officials in Oklahoma for sexually assaulting women while on the job, an Oklahoma Highway Patrol trooper told women they can avoid getting raped by a cop if they simply follow traffic laws.

Raw Story first pointed out on Tuesday that Capt. George Brown, a state trooper, shared a few tips for women in an interview with local NBC News affiliate KJRH. Brown told the KJRH anchor that women can keep their car doors locked and speak through a cracked window if a trooper approaches them. If the trooper asks a woman to get out of the car, Brown said, she can ask "in a polite way" why he wants her to do that.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/23...r=Politics

What part of this is untrue?

"If she didn't have a busted tail lamp, I wouldn't have to bust her tail lamp."

Say


You got one purty mouth their missy. Let me tell ya how we deal with seat belt violations here in Oklahoma.

This just upsets me because as I have said before, cops have pulled my wife over just to get a look at her.

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Reminds me if that song.


When you're in love with a beautiful woman.......

Yeah my wife is smokin hot. It's a double edged sword.

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