(09-20-2014 11:18 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The biggest threat to poor minorities today in the higher education system is that they will be saddled with even greater debt and push their communities further into poverty. It ins't any sort of equalizer today.

Yet another way to keep them from achieving higher education.

(09-20-2014 11:13 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is a war on higher education because education is the great equalizer. It's more difficult to hold down educated minorities.

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Education IS the great equalizer, I agree. But, that equalizer has to have more options than it currently does.

(09-20-2014 10:44 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  Doesn't matter what most Americans think. It matters what HR departments think, it matters what those professional recruiters think.

This is something we do differently than almost every other country. The UK, Canada, Germany, France, the Nordics, Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, etc have never had the illusion that university should be for everyone.

You can't even get an internship now days, for the most part, without it going toward college credit. It's stupid, because half the internships I looked at while in college were things I or anyone off the street could have done.

If you don't change with the times, you get left behind and I think most people will.

(09-20-2014 11:18 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The biggest threat to poor minorities today in the higher education system is that they will be saddled with even greater debt and push their communities further into poverty. It ins't any sort of equalizer today.

Short of getting a full ride scholarship, I agree. If you're from an impoverished background (and there are plenty of rural whites that fit that mold too), the last thing you should do is shackle yourself in debt unless you really know what you wanna do and work hard toward it.

I've noticed that the University of Phoenix doesn't offer degrees in African-American, Women nor Gender Studies.

(09-20-2014 11:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(09-20-2014 11:18 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  The biggest threat to poor minorities today in the higher education system is that they will be saddled with even greater debt and push their communities further into poverty. It ins't any sort of equalizer today.

Yet another way to keep them from achieving higher education.

Did you not get what I said?

If I wanted to keep them poor I'd be enrolling them by the hundreds of thousands and putting them in so much debt they could never recover. Oh, wait. Isn't that you are for?

Also Fit, life is graded on a curve. If every white, and asian person in the US had a BA and higher and every black person had a high school diploma and an associates, the black community would still the the backward one.

It's all relative to others.

The poll is a direct result of the conservative medias attack on higher ex. I was listening to Beck rail on higher ed a couple of months back. A degree is still the only game I. Town. Avoid it at a lifetime of misery. I couldn't even imagine telling someone to go another route. Save up. Work hard. You need a degree.

(09-20-2014 11:44 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I've noticed that the University of Phoenix doesn't offer degrees in African-American, Women nor Gender Studies.

Because it cost double.

(09-20-2014 02:06 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The poll is a direct result of the conservative medias attack on higher ex. I was listening to Beck rail on higher ed a couple of months back. A degree is still the only game I. Town. Avoid it at a lifetime of misery. I couldn't even imagine telling someone to go another route. Save up. Work hard. You need a degree.

That would be known as a "lie".

(09-20-2014 11:44 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  I've noticed that the University of Phoenix doesn't offer degrees in African-American, Women nor Gender Studies.

For profit online schools really grind my gears. They take federal loan money and give people an education worse than you could get through Wikipedia.


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