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Down down down down down... It has to be if this Toledo team is 10 point favorites vs. one of its bugaboos BALL STATE. Id rather have 5 years of winninng seasons than be up and down like BSU and still not have a MAC title. Looks like they wont finish bowl eligible with their MAC schedule basing off that indiana State loss. Hope we can score tons of points. Losinh Wenning was huge for them.
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(09-15-2014 11:02 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Down down down down down... It has to be if this Toledo team is 10 point favorites vs. one of its bugaboos BALL STATE. Id rather have 5 years of winninng seasons than be up and down like BSU and still not have a MAC title. Looks like they wont finish bowl eligible with their MAC schedule basing off that indiana State loss. Hope we can score tons of points. Losinh Wenning was huge for them.

NIU 14 point dog to Arkansas
BGSU 22 point dog to Wisconsin
CMU 5.5 point dog to Kansas
Miami O 28.5 points to UCinn
Indiana 17 point dog to Mizzou
EMU 45pts to MSU.
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I have a very good feeling that UT will win the Ball State game. Its a must win in my opinion to get things back on track.
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NIU is 3-0.
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(09-15-2014 12:15 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU is 3-0.

Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?
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(09-15-2014 12:15 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU is 3-0.

Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

Well that bodes for NIU when they play Toledo then.
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(09-15-2014 01:38 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 12:15 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU is 3-0.

Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

Not a chance.
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Quote:Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

But beating NW and UNLV on the road, leading the way both games is what makes them the team excluded from the MAC sucking this year.

The MAC is in a down year, yes. Compared to last year and/or what looks for the conference....

GOOD:
- NIU looks to be a good team this year again. Not as good as their peak years, but good nonetheless.
- Akron seems like they'll be contending for the MAC East title. Improved with Bowden; not a surprise.
- WMU seems to be crawling out of the basement. Solidly winning in Idaho on the road and scoring more points in 2 games than they seemed to all year last year.

NEUTRAL:
- Bowling Green gets Stomped by W. Kentucky but beats Indiana. Huh? Well, new coach, now a new QB. Can't hate it, can't love it.
- UMass seems to be not such a doormat this year. Took Colorado & (bad) Vandy of SEC down to the wire to lose both. If they had any history of goodness, I would put this as Good.
- Toledo woke up and Stomped a #4 FCS team. Nice! But then gets Solidly Beat at HOME by Missouri -- but then completely creamed by Cinci until it was too late to overcome a comeback. Not good. The skitzo team of the MAC?
- CMU Solidly Beats @Purdue more than ND did on neutral turf, but then gets blown out by Syracuse at HOME. Yeah, injuries are one thing -- getting stomped at home is another by a destined .500 ACC team. Another skitzo -- but I guess CMU shows promise to be OK. Beat Kansas, and you'll be in the Good.

BAD & UGLY:
- Ball State was beating Iowa almost the whole game, and then choked. Then lost to D1AA. Really? No O? Seriously? MAC lost a strength
- Miami-OH seems like they may be coming out from the basement, from 0-12 last year -- but losing to a D1AA and only scoring 10 pts off UofM's many turnovers negates their fair showing against Marshall opening game. Uggh.
- EMU has a new coach, and EMU fan(s) were pumped. Only to barely beat a bad D1AA team, and then to get raped the rest of the way. Nice D against Old Dominion? Yeah. Only bright spot. At best, they'll be semi-competitive in the last stretch of the season.
- Kent State just sucks. No improvement, just went down.
- Ohio has Frank Solich as their coach, and still can't go anywhere respectable. Blown out by Marshall more than Miami-OH did, and Marshall's their rival. They can't score. They barely beat Kent on the road, which at first looked promising, but now, looks like they're just a shade better than Horrible. Come on, guys.
- Buffalo doesn't seem to have anything really going. Getting stomped by Army. Sigh. And the Baylor game At Home did nothing to shed positive light on anything. They're aiming down, too.
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(09-15-2014 02:01 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

But beating NW and UNLV on the road, leading the way both games is what makes them the team excluded from the MAC sucking this year.

The MAC is in a down year, yes. Compared to last year and/or what looks for the conference....

GOOD:
- NIU looks to be a good team this year again. Not as good as their peak years, but good nonetheless.
- Akron seems like they'll be contending for the MAC East title. Improved with Bowden; not a surprise.
- WMU seems to be crawling out of the basement. Solidly winning in Idaho on the road and scoring more points in 2 games than they seemed to all year last year.

NEUTRAL:
- Bowling Green gets Stomped by W. Kentucky but beats Indiana. Huh? Well, new coach, now a new QB. Can't hate it, can't love it.
- UMass seems to be not such a doormat this year. Took Colorado & (bad) Vandy of SEC down to the wire to lose both. If they had any history of goodness, I would put this as Good.
- Toledo woke up and Stomped a #4 FCS team. Nice! But then gets Solidly Beat at HOME by Missouri -- but then completely creamed by Cinci until it was too late to overcome a comeback. Not good. The skitzo team of the MAC?
- CMU Solidly Beats @Purdue more than ND did on neutral turf, but then gets blown out by Syracuse at HOME. Yeah, injuries are one thing -- getting stomped at home is another by a destined .500 ACC team. Another skitzo -- but I guess CMU shows promise to be OK. Beat Kansas, and you'll be in the Good.

BAD & UGLY:
- Ball State was beating Iowa almost the whole game, and then choked. Then lost to D1AA. Really? No O? Seriously? MAC lost a strength
- Miami-OH seems like they may be coming out from the basement, from 0-12 last year -- but losing to a D1AA and only scoring 10 pts off UofM's many turnovers negates their fair showing against Marshall opening game. Uggh.
- EMU has a new coach, and EMU fan(s) were pumped. Only to barely beat a bad D1AA team, and then to get raped the rest of the way. Nice D against Old Dominion? Yeah. Only bright spot. At best, they'll be semi-competitive in the last stretch of the season.
- Kent State just sucks. No improvement, just went down.
- Ohio has Frank Solich as their coach, and still can't go anywhere respectable. Blown out by Marshall more than Miami-OH did, and Marshall's their rival. They can't score. They barely beat Kent on the road, which at first looked promising, but now, looks like they're just a shade better than Horrible. Come on, guys.
- Buffalo doesn't seem to have anything really going. Getting stomped by Army. Sigh. And the Baylor game At Home did nothing to shed positive light on anything. They're aiming down, too.

Mizzou also knocked off UCF (the other preseason favorite for the AAC title besides UCinn) 38-10. Didn't help Toledo losing their starting QB in the 3rd Quarter against Mizzou.
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(09-15-2014 02:23 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 02:01 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

But beating NW and UNLV on the road, leading the way both games is what makes them the team excluded from the MAC sucking this year.

The MAC is in a down year, yes. Compared to last year and/or what looks for the conference....

GOOD:
- NIU looks to be a good team this year again. Not as good as their peak years, but good nonetheless.
- Akron seems like they'll be contending for the MAC East title. Improved with Bowden; not a surprise.
- WMU seems to be crawling out of the basement. Solidly winning in Idaho on the road and scoring more points in 2 games than they seemed to all year last year.

NEUTRAL:
- Bowling Green gets Stomped by W. Kentucky but beats Indiana. Huh? Well, new coach, now a new QB. Can't hate it, can't love it.
- UMass seems to be not such a doormat this year. Took Colorado & (bad) Vandy of SEC down to the wire to lose both. If they had any history of goodness, I would put this as Good.
- Toledo woke up and Stomped a #4 FCS team. Nice! But then gets Solidly Beat at HOME by Missouri -- but then completely creamed by Cinci until it was too late to overcome a comeback. Not good. The skitzo team of the MAC?
- CMU Solidly Beats @Purdue more than ND did on neutral turf, but then gets blown out by Syracuse at HOME. Yeah, injuries are one thing -- getting stomped at home is another by a destined .500 ACC team. Another skitzo -- but I guess CMU shows promise to be OK. Beat Kansas, and you'll be in the Good.

BAD & UGLY:
- Ball State was beating Iowa almost the whole game, and then choked. Then lost to D1AA. Really? No O? Seriously? MAC lost a strength
- Miami-OH seems like they may be coming out from the basement, from 0-12 last year -- but losing to a D1AA and only scoring 10 pts off UofM's many turnovers negates their fair showing against Marshall opening game. Uggh.
- EMU has a new coach, and EMU fan(s) were pumped. Only to barely beat a bad D1AA team, and then to get raped the rest of the way. Nice D against Old Dominion? Yeah. Only bright spot. At best, they'll be semi-competitive in the last stretch of the season.
- Kent State just sucks. No improvement, just went down.
- Ohio has Frank Solich as their coach, and still can't go anywhere respectable. Blown out by Marshall more than Miami-OH did, and Marshall's their rival. They can't score. They barely beat Kent on the road, which at first looked promising, but now, looks like they're just a shade better than Horrible. Come on, guys.
- Buffalo doesn't seem to have anything really going. Getting stomped by Army. Sigh. And the Baylor game At Home did nothing to shed positive light on anything. They're aiming down, too.

Mizzou also knocked off UCF (the other preseason favorite for the AAC title besides UCinn) 38-10. Didn't help Toledo losing their starting QB in the 3rd Quarter against Mizzou.

Yes losing our QB in the third quarter didnt help, but the QB isn't what is defining this season. Its the ineffectiveness of the pass defense.
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(09-15-2014 03:28 PM)rocketinchitown Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 02:23 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 02:01 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

But beating NW and UNLV on the road, leading the way both games is what makes them the team excluded from the MAC sucking this year.

The MAC is in a down year, yes. Compared to last year and/or what looks for the conference....

GOOD:
- NIU looks to be a good team this year again. Not as good as their peak years, but good nonetheless.
- Akron seems like they'll be contending for the MAC East title. Improved with Bowden; not a surprise.
- WMU seems to be crawling out of the basement. Solidly winning in Idaho on the road and scoring more points in 2 games than they seemed to all year last year.

NEUTRAL:
- Bowling Green gets Stomped by W. Kentucky but beats Indiana. Huh? Well, new coach, now a new QB. Can't hate it, can't love it.
- UMass seems to be not such a doormat this year. Took Colorado & (bad) Vandy of SEC down to the wire to lose both. If they had any history of goodness, I would put this as Good.
- Toledo woke up and Stomped a #4 FCS team. Nice! But then gets Solidly Beat at HOME by Missouri -- but then completely creamed by Cinci until it was too late to overcome a comeback. Not good. The skitzo team of the MAC?
- CMU Solidly Beats @Purdue more than ND did on neutral turf, but then gets blown out by Syracuse at HOME. Yeah, injuries are one thing -- getting stomped at home is another by a destined .500 ACC team. Another skitzo -- but I guess CMU shows promise to be OK. Beat Kansas, and you'll be in the Good.

BAD & UGLY:
- Ball State was beating Iowa almost the whole game, and then choked. Then lost to D1AA. Really? No O? Seriously? MAC lost a strength
- Miami-OH seems like they may be coming out from the basement, from 0-12 last year -- but losing to a D1AA and only scoring 10 pts off UofM's many turnovers negates their fair showing against Marshall opening game. Uggh.
- EMU has a new coach, and EMU fan(s) were pumped. Only to barely beat a bad D1AA team, and then to get raped the rest of the way. Nice D against Old Dominion? Yeah. Only bright spot. At best, they'll be semi-competitive in the last stretch of the season.
- Kent State just sucks. No improvement, just went down.
- Ohio has Frank Solich as their coach, and still can't go anywhere respectable. Blown out by Marshall more than Miami-OH did, and Marshall's their rival. They can't score. They barely beat Kent on the road, which at first looked promising, but now, looks like they're just a shade better than Horrible. Come on, guys.
- Buffalo doesn't seem to have anything really going. Getting stomped by Army. Sigh. And the Baylor game At Home did nothing to shed positive light on anything. They're aiming down, too.

Mizzou also knocked off UCF (the other preseason favorite for the AAC title besides UCinn) 38-10. Didn't help Toledo losing their starting QB in the 3rd Quarter against Mizzou.

Yes losing our QB in the third quarter didnt help, but the QB isn't what is defining this season. Its the ineffectiveness of the pass defense.

Agreed. Having seen Ely play the better part of his 2 games, I don't think he could have done any better against Cincinnati than Woodside did. If Woodside can get a bit better week-to-week, then he might actually solidify his hold on the starting spot for next season. Pass defense has possible cost us one or both losses. I wonder if the feeling was that we could play zone because the pass rush would have been more effective than it has been? Will be interesting to see how we do against Ball State's O line.
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"Its the ineffectiveness of the pass defense."

I'd add to that the ineffectiveness of the coaching staff. For some reason that I absolutely cannot comprehend, they seem totally incapable of making necessary adjustments in order to win games.
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(09-15-2014 03:28 PM)rocketinchitown Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 02:23 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 02:01 PM)toddjnsn Wrote:  
Quote:Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

But beating NW and UNLV on the road, leading the way both games is what makes them the team excluded from the MAC sucking this year.

The MAC is in a down year, yes. Compared to last year and/or what looks for the conference....

GOOD:
- NIU looks to be a good team this year again. Not as good as their peak years, but good nonetheless.
- Akron seems like they'll be contending for the MAC East title. Improved with Bowden; not a surprise.
- WMU seems to be crawling out of the basement. Solidly winning in Idaho on the road and scoring more points in 2 games than they seemed to all year last year.

NEUTRAL:
- Bowling Green gets Stomped by W. Kentucky but beats Indiana. Huh? Well, new coach, now a new QB. Can't hate it, can't love it.
- UMass seems to be not such a doormat this year. Took Colorado & (bad) Vandy of SEC down to the wire to lose both. If they had any history of goodness, I would put this as Good.
- Toledo woke up and Stomped a #4 FCS team. Nice! But then gets Solidly Beat at HOME by Missouri -- but then completely creamed by Cinci until it was too late to overcome a comeback. Not good. The skitzo team of the MAC?
- CMU Solidly Beats @Purdue more than ND did on neutral turf, but then gets blown out by Syracuse at HOME. Yeah, injuries are one thing -- getting stomped at home is another by a destined .500 ACC team. Another skitzo -- but I guess CMU shows promise to be OK. Beat Kansas, and you'll be in the Good.

BAD & UGLY:
- Ball State was beating Iowa almost the whole game, and then choked. Then lost to D1AA. Really? No O? Seriously? MAC lost a strength
- Miami-OH seems like they may be coming out from the basement, from 0-12 last year -- but losing to a D1AA and only scoring 10 pts off UofM's many turnovers negates their fair showing against Marshall opening game. Uggh.
- EMU has a new coach, and EMU fan(s) were pumped. Only to barely beat a bad D1AA team, and then to get raped the rest of the way. Nice D against Old Dominion? Yeah. Only bright spot. At best, they'll be semi-competitive in the last stretch of the season.
- Kent State just sucks. No improvement, just went down.
- Ohio has Frank Solich as their coach, and still can't go anywhere respectable. Blown out by Marshall more than Miami-OH did, and Marshall's their rival. They can't score. They barely beat Kent on the road, which at first looked promising, but now, looks like they're just a shade better than Horrible. Come on, guys.
- Buffalo doesn't seem to have anything really going. Getting stomped by Army. Sigh. And the Baylor game At Home did nothing to shed positive light on anything. They're aiming down, too.

Mizzou also knocked off UCF (the other preseason favorite for the AAC title besides UCinn) 38-10. Didn't help Toledo losing their starting QB in the 3rd Quarter against Mizzou.

Yes losing our QB in the third quarter didnt help, but the QB isn't what is defining this season. Its the ineffectiveness of the pass defense.

Except the QB by virtue of his effectiveness helps to keep your Defense off the field.
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(09-15-2014 03:57 PM)djsfw57 Wrote:  "Its the ineffectiveness of the pass defense."

I'd add to that the ineffectiveness of the coaching staff. For some reason that I absolutely cannot comprehend, they seem totally incapable of making necessary adjustments in order to win games.

+1
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We have reverted to the Lou West pass defense. when the ball is snapped drop back 5-10 yards immediately - then come to the ball to make the tackle after the reception - and hope they don't do a pump fake or you will be chasing the receiver from behind to make the tackle.

Tell me that doesn't sound familiar.
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Despite our porous defense, we are giving up fewer points and 80 fewer yards per game than that bowling green team. So, we have that.
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Umass is looking a lot like Akron of last year, where they go from the pits of college football the year before, to being competitive in games they should be losing big, but still losing. It'd be wise not to sleep on them like we slept on Akron last year. I still expect us to lose one more game that we shouldn't lose (basically any game other than NIU or Bowling Green), go 1-1 against NIU & Bowling Green, and I have no idea what to expect of the Iowa State game but it's probably going to be the deciding factor in whether we have a postseason because it's the difference between 7-5 and 8-4 but realistically, only the doominest of our current crowd of doomsayers is giving us no chance to win that one.
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(09-15-2014 01:38 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 12:15 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU is 3-0.

Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

Has Toledo beaten a bowl team...wait. It's easy to talk about how good your opponents are when you lose. Makes it easier to tear down other teams wins.

Well we lost to better teams than you've beaten. To you tell people in Boca that your grandpa can beat up their grandpa?
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(09-16-2014 06:40 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 01:38 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 12:15 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU is 3-0.

Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

Has Toledo beaten a bowl team...wait. It's easy to talk about how good your opponents are when you lose. Makes it easier to tear down other teams wins.

Well we lost to better teams than you've beaten. To you tell people in Boca that your grandpa can beat up their grandpa?

I'D RATHER HAVE WINS against Northwestern and UNLV.
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(09-18-2014 05:13 PM)owen Wrote:  
(09-16-2014 06:40 PM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 01:38 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-15-2014 12:15 PM)7 Wrote:  NIU is 3-0.

Any of the teams the Huskies have played so far likely to be a Bowl team after the regular season?

Has Toledo beaten a bowl team...wait. It's easy to talk about how good your opponents are when you lose. Makes it easier to tear down other teams wins.

Well we lost to better teams than you've beaten. To you tell people in Boca that your grandpa can beat up their grandpa?

I'D RATHER HAVE WINS against Northwestern and UNLV.

It really doesn't tell you where your program is at
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