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Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
You think Mackin will ever ink Auburn again on the schedule?
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09-14-2014 04:58 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-13-2014 11:58 PM)imjustafatkid Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:48 PM)Smaug Wrote: Whether it was too expensive or not is immaterial. The proposal never saw the light of day.
Why?
That we don't know. I was pretty sure it wasn't going to get approved even if it was brought up so I think you're just looking for reasons to be mad.
The reason the proposal was brought up is that we were told if we met a certain set guidelines they would approve it. We met those.
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09-14-2014 06:07 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-13-2014 11:22 PM)imjustafatkid Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:18 PM)Smaug Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:00 PM)Guardian Wrote: As an Alabama fan, I WANT to play UAB, and even South Alabama and Troy.
Even if money isn't transferred. In that case, Bama would save money, UAB would get more exposure. If we lost, we would at least help hype up some of the other in-state schools. Could help recruiting for those guys too. 'I can't play at Alabama? Well, might as well play against them." Not everyone can go to the SEC, so it couldn't hurt.
Good point. Suppose UAB and Bama played every year. And suppose UAB won 1 game every 20 years. UAB fans get to crow about that one win until the next one, and Bama isn't diminished in the slightest.
LSU isn't diminished playing Louisiana Schools. Texas isn't diminished by playing Texas schools, and so on. I really don't see what the problem is.
Well, actually, I do. The UA Board of Trustees is playing favorites (not news), and remember, Bama plays Auburn because the state legislature made them (before they were in the same region). Now, look at the state legislature and tell me who therein is going to tell the Alabama football program to do a damn thing it doesn't want to. Nobody who values his/her seat, that's who.
LSU isn't playing LSU directional schools. It's not really the same comparison. I agree Bama should play other in state schools but I don't see any benefit for uab to play them. Same for UAH if that were possible.
LSU played Sun Belt member the University of Louisiana Monroe YESTERDAY so it is the same comparison.
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09-14-2014 07:14 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
They also play McNeese and Nicholls State.
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09-14-2014 08:12 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-14-2014 07:14 AM)bladhmadh Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:22 PM)imjustafatkid Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:18 PM)Smaug Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:00 PM)Guardian Wrote: As an Alabama fan, I WANT to play UAB, and even South Alabama and Troy.
Even if money isn't transferred. In that case, Bama would save money, UAB would get more exposure. If we lost, we would at least help hype up some of the other in-state schools. Could help recruiting for those guys too. 'I can't play at Alabama? Well, might as well play against them." Not everyone can go to the SEC, so it couldn't hurt.
Good point. Suppose UAB and Bama played every year. And suppose UAB won 1 game every 20 years. UAB fans get to crow about that one win until the next one, and Bama isn't diminished in the slightest.
LSU isn't diminished playing Louisiana Schools. Texas isn't diminished by playing Texas schools, and so on. I really don't see what the problem is.
Well, actually, I do. The UA Board of Trustees is playing favorites (not news), and remember, Bama plays Auburn because the state legislature made them (before they were in the same region). Now, look at the state legislature and tell me who therein is going to tell the Alabama football program to do a damn thing it doesn't want to. Nobody who values his/her seat, that's who.
LSU isn't playing LSU directional schools. It's not really the same comparison. I agree Bama should play other in state schools but I don't see any benefit for uab to play them. Same for UAH if that were possible.
LSU played Sun Belt member the University of Louisiana Monroe YESTERDAY so it is the same comparison.
No, its really not. ULM isn't a division of LSU.
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09-14-2014 08:16 AM |
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Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
I see nothing wrong with Scarbos story. I think he raises some interesting points. And UAB could benefit from playing Alabama. Not necessarily THAT much more than playing LSU or Miss State. But it would benefit us even if we only win 1 in every 10 tries.
Having said that. I don't think UAB needs to beg. Let the media and the casual football fan point out Alabamas hypocrisy.
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09-14-2014 08:16 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-13-2014 11:48 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:23 PM)Smaug Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:15 PM)imjustafatkid Wrote: (09-13-2014 11:01 PM)kdblazer Wrote: (09-13-2014 10:57 PM)imjustafatkid Wrote: Aww, you're mad someone disagrees with you. How cute.
UAB needs an on campus stadium but there is literally no reason we should want to play Alabama in football. What benefit would uab gain from sucha matchup? Even a game at Legion Field would be a Bama home game.
Look guy....the issue is not UAB wanting to play UA, its the fact that UA has at every turn tried to suppress UAB athletics at every turn when it comes to football and basketball. I would suggest learning some history before spouting off about UAB and UA. We need the BOT to butt out and we'll be fine!
I've only been following UAB for around 8 years so I may not have the full story. You would definitely need to educate me on the basketball end because UAB's basketball program has been far ahead of UA's in the years I've been watching.
Other than an on campus stadium that would be hard to justify unless it pays for itself, what has UA done to hinder UAB's football program? After Callaway I remember people acting like the board of trustees was trying not to hire McGee until Petrino came out and publicly advocated for the hire so that was clearly a UAB move. The Bill Clark hire seems like a great hire and could hardly be seen as negative at this point even if the board was involved in it. UAB athletics is looking very promising right now and you guys are bitching about a team you don't even play! It makes no sense.
Google "Jimbo Fisher UAB"
Or drop down into the Blazertalk Archives and search, "Black Friday" or "XCMA NCAA bonus"
Black Friday turned up way too many results for me to know which one I'm supposed to be looking for. XCMA NCAA Bonus only turned up this thread.
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09-14-2014 08:18 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-14-2014 01:57 AM)LoBo6 Wrote: Why in the hell would a program that is clearly headed in the right direction building it's program to be competitive want or need to play Bama. I'm not from Alabama so I don't understand all the back biting and politics that goes on, but I think it would be unfair as hell to the players to be PIMPED out to BAMA for any reason. Maybe in due time UAB vs. Bama might make sense. UAB is in the process of finally establishing itself as Mid Major power. What makes more sense is rotating Alabama A&M, Alabama State, Jax. State, and Samford yearly(Great gate and automatic home game). Troy, USA, and a home and away w/ the likes of Ga. State, Wake Forrest, Duke, Army, Indiana, Kansas, Purdue(caliber programs). Until we get established and start competing for the Conference USA title on a regular basis, we shouldn't PIMP our players. Program exposure comes when we win 8+ games yearly and C-USA titles.
This guy gets it. It's good to see there are some other rational UAB fans. It makes no sense for the university to want to play UA. I don't even understand why fans would want it. Most folks don't like seeing their favorite team get destroyed.
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09-14-2014 08:28 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
Oh, I don't care if we ever played them or not. I just don't care for the absurd rationalizations for not playing.
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09-14-2014 08:32 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-14-2014 08:32 AM)Smaug Wrote: Oh, I don't care if we ever played them or not. I just don't care for the absurd rationalizations for not playing.
I don't know why Alabama doesn't play in state teams, but I also don't know why they would need to go out of their way to do it.
When the SEC was redoing its schedule every season Alabama had a couple years where they had some real difficulties finding someone to fill their schedule. I believe this year was one of those. I'm sure they would have played UAB if UAB really wanted to play UA.
(This post was last modified: 09-14-2014 08:39 AM by imjustafatkid.)
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09-14-2014 08:37 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-14-2014 08:37 AM)imjustafatkid Wrote: I'm sure they would have played UAB if UAB really wanted to play UA.
Wow.
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09-14-2014 08:38 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
So is LSU going to destroy us less, somehow?
Most of us don't want any part of it, because the trailer park bammers are bad enough about us now. Let us actually dare to dream of beating their beloved Criminal Turds and the hatred will jump a hundredfold.
The main reason any UAB fan would want to play UA is to *beat them* as partial payback for the many and abundant ways that the BoT has screwed us over the years. Simple as that. And we've beaten Saban before, and you can damn well bet he remembers it.
You do know that the official UA party line, the boilerplate kneejerk response any time this discussion comes up is "The University of Alabama has everything to lose and nothing to gain by playing UAB", right? Compare this to what you wrote and maybe you'll begin to understand why you get a reaction when virtually the identical words come out of *your* mouth.
Your ignorance of the UA/UAB history is pretty standard in this state, but there are way too many people on this board who lived through those events and had to swallow their own bile at how screwed over we were for you to be able to say such things without getting challenged immediately.
You have already professed ignorance around the events that surrounded Mike Anderson. Do you understand that basically the only reason that Callaway got the head football coaching job was that he was Bear Bryant, Jr's college roommate and he needed a job? A guy who never so far as I know was *ever* mentioned for *any* head coaching job before he got this one?
Ignorance is one thing. Willful ignorance is quite another.
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09-14-2014 08:40 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-14-2014 08:32 AM)Smaug Wrote: Oh, I don't care if we ever played them or not. I just don't care for the absurd rationalizations for not playing.
Especially when it's obvious that it makes sense in every other sport except for the two that lots of people care about.
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09-14-2014 08:44 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
Well since you do not accept the LSU comparison then look at TN. They play UTC (same system) this year and they played Memphis when they were in the same system. Texas will play any school in-state not named A&M... But that will probably change. Pretty sure the same is true for A&M. Most schools with UABs side have gained their own board of trust because they have adequate alumni to popular such a board. The problem is that UAB makes the most money for the system due to the medical campus.
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09-14-2014 08:45 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
I'd prefer to travel to see all the SEC stadiums and other stadiums from other schools than drive onto UATs campus.
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09-14-2014 08:50 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-14-2014 08:45 AM)uab278 Wrote: Well since you do not accept the LSU comparison then look at TN. They play UTC (same system) this year and they played Memphis when they were in the same system. Texas will play any school in-state not named A&M... But that will probably change. Pretty sure the same is true for A&M. Most schools with UABs side have gained their own board of trust because they have adequate alumni to popular such a board. The problem is that UAB makes the most money for the system due to the medical campus.
UT played aTm every year, it was their version of Alabama-Auburn. That only ended when A&M joined the SEC.
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09-14-2014 08:52 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
However, if we go by BOT logic, UAT should be paying UAB every year for a game or a home and home because it would be fiscally responsible to keep 1 Million plus in state instead of out of state, but that that is their argument.
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09-14-2014 08:52 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
(09-14-2014 08:52 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote: (09-14-2014 08:45 AM)uab278 Wrote: Well since you do not accept the LSU comparison then look at TN. They play UTC (same system) this year and they played Memphis when they were in the same system. Texas will play any school in-state not named A&M... But that will probably change. Pretty sure the same is true for A&M. Most schools with UABs side have gained their own board of trust because they have adequate alumni to popular such a board. The problem is that UAB makes the most money for the system due to the medical campus.
UT played aTm every year, it was their version of Alabama-Auburn. That only ended when A&M joined the SEC.
Oh I completely realize that but neither school has made an effort to re-schedule each other. I would compare it to UAB and Memphis. No reason for us not to play.
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09-14-2014 08:53 AM |
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RE: Scarbinsky: Still no excuse for Alabama to keep playing C-USA schools not named UAB
I give up. You guys obviously aren't going to listen to reason. You're going to turn off new fans with this garbage. Keep spewing hate and trying to play the victim card. Even acting like Scarbinsky is a legit newsperson is a laugh. UAB has good coaches on basketball and football right now. Enjoy it. Why even care what other schools in the state are doing?
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09-14-2014 08:54 AM |
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