(09-29-2014 12:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 09:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 11:33 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:06 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Missouri believed the propaganda. It is that simple. You can say that it was good for the team as if saying that is a band aid. Propaganda is good for the masses but when players begin believing it, then the Coaches aren't doing their job.

It is positive in that it happened early and was an OOC loss. Not sure Pinkel had many positive comments for the team after the game. They embarrassed themselves before a sell out crowd. It will wake them up hopefully.

I would be a little worried if I was South Carolina.

Bet that hurt S Carolina as bad as our meltdown last year hurt us...

They are pretty much screwed now.

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 12:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 09:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 11:33 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(09-22-2014 07:06 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Missouri believed the propaganda. It is that simple. You can say that it was good for the team as if saying that is a band aid. Propaganda is good for the masses but when players begin believing it, then the Coaches aren't doing their job.

It is positive in that it happened early and was an OOC loss. Not sure Pinkel had many positive comments for the team after the game. They embarrassed themselves before a sell out crowd. It will wake them up hopefully.

I would be a little worried if I was South Carolina.

Bet that hurt S Carolina as bad as our meltdown last year hurt us...

They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 12:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 09:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 11:33 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  It is positive in that it happened early and was an OOC loss. Not sure Pinkel had many positive comments for the team after the game. They embarrassed themselves before a sell out crowd. It will wake them up hopefully.

I would be a little worried if I was South Carolina.

Bet that hurt S Carolina as bad as our meltdown last year hurt us...

They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 12:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 09:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I would be a little worried if I was South Carolina.

Bet that hurt S Carolina as bad as our meltdown last year hurt us...

They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 12:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Bet that hurt S Carolina as bad as our meltdown last year hurt us...

They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

H1 if the Big 10, SEC and ACC move to a 4 x 4 system with conference semis I assure each of their champions will be in the playoff and won't have to sell themselves.

(09-29-2014 07:58 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

H1 if the Big 10, SEC and ACC move to a 4 x 4 system with conference semis I assure each of their champions will be in the playoff and won't have to sell themselves.

A much more predictable system to insure the best possible return of investment for the Networks.

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 12:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  

(09-23-2014 09:27 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  I would be a little worried if I was South Carolina.

Bet that hurt S Carolina as bad as our meltdown last year hurt us...

They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Then the SEC West representative wasn't the team we thought they were.

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

I would hope the SEC wouldn't be so reactionary to what basically is a statistical anomaly. And what is this ACC disease you are referring to?

(09-30-2014 07:40 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 12:29 PM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  Bet that hurt S Carolina as bad as our meltdown last year hurt us...

They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Then the SEC West representative wasn't the team we thought they were.

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

I would hope the SEC wouldn't be so reactionary to what basically is a statistical anomaly. And what is this ACC disease you are referring to?

1. The East hasn't pulled it's weight in almost a decade now.
2. Anytime an undefeated team has to play a two or three loss team in its own championship game it has nothing to gain and everything to lose.
3. The divisions do need to be realigned for strength.
4. The ACC routinely has a strong Clemson or F.S.U. going up against a two or three loss school from the other division. It's hurt them in every way, upsets, loss of S.O.S., a second game against a weak school they've already beaten once, etc.
5. The inability to win consistently against weaker opposition is the ACC disease. Clemson and F.S.U. and particularly Georgia Tech have problems with this. Frequently you can add Virginia Tech to that discussion. Lately Georgia, South Carolina in particular, and this year Missouri are suffering from that disease. Florida is just plain down and will be until they actually hire a coach.

Realigning wouldn't be a knee jerk reaction, but having a strong West team lose in a rematch against a weaker eastern team they've already beaten (like Auburn having to play Tennessee for a second time, or South Carolina for a second time, or this year possibly Georgia just stinks. So far we have won those rematch championship games but in 2004 having to play Tennessee again (even though we won) hurt us in trying to jump U.S.C. for the BCS game. If Alabama lost to a 2 or 3 loss eastern champion you would see the long overdue realignment of our divisions occur. It wouldn't be knee jerk but it would be the catalyst to finally create change.

I guess I just don't see it.

1. The west has won 5 straight, but that is no different from the East run in the early 90's.

2. Its too early in SEC conference play to believe that anyone from the West is going to make it through the season undefeated or that there won't be a 1 loss UGA in Atlanta.

3. I fail to see how putting 5 of the schools that have appeared the most in SEC Championships, balances the divisions.

4. You can only play who is on your schedule. If a team is deserving of the high ranking, then they should crush the inferior opponent. I'm opposed to 'Bama making a championship game based upon name alone instead of doing what should have done in 2011 and beat LSU.

5. UGA has an inability to beat SCAR, I'll grant you that. But I think that the number of BCS championships prove that the opponents record, regardless of how marginal the school might appear, has not hampered SEC perception in the past 8 seasons.

The scenario of the strong losing to the weak in the championship game just hasn't happened in the SEC. There have only been 6 rematches in 20 years of the game and in only one of those contests has the regular season winner not prevailed a second time. And the Vols team Auburn beat in 2004 was ranked #15. Nothing was going to get Auburn to jump USC because the SEC at the time lacked the cache it currently has.

If you think Auburn should be in the East, then that is another conversation. But to move both of the Alabama schools to the East just to let LSU and A&M run roughshod over their dream fiefdom makes no sense.

(09-30-2014 12:19 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  I guess I just don't see it.

1. The west has won 5 straight, but that is no different from the East run in the early 90's.

2. Its too early in SEC conference play to believe that anyone from the West is going to make it through the season undefeated or that there won't be a 1 loss UGA in Atlanta.

3. I fail to see how putting 5 of the schools that have appeared the most in SEC Championships, balances the divisions.

4. You can only play who is on your schedule. If a team is deserving of the high ranking, then they should crush the inferior opponent. I'm opposed to 'Bama making a championship game based upon name alone instead of doing what should have done in 2011 and beat LSU.

5. UGA has an inability to beat SCAR, I'll grant you that. But I think that the number of BCS championships prove that the opponents record, regardless of how marginal the school might appear, has not hampered SEC perception in the past 8 seasons.

The scenario of the strong losing to the weak in the championship game just hasn't happened in the SEC. There have only been 6 rematches in 20 years of the game and in only one of those contests has the regular season winner not prevailed a second time. And the Vols team Auburn beat in 2004 was ranked #15. Nothing was going to get Auburn to jump USC because the SEC at the time lacked the cache it currently has.

If you think Auburn should be in the East, then that is another conversation. But to move both of the Alabama schools to the East just to let LSU and A&M run roughshod over their dream fiefdom makes no sense.

I agree with the second paragraph of point #5. I was just pointing out that the CCG doesn't help a West champ when it is a rematch or when the East champ has 2 or more losses. We are simply lucky that it hasn't bitten us yet.

The reality Vandiver is what it is. Quite frankly I think it should be a matter of procedure to reshuffle the divisions for balance about every 8 years or so.
Tennessee has been down for how long now? How many SEC championships has Georgia won in the BCS era? How long will it take the Gators to crawl out of their muck once Muschamp is gone? Will Stoops every produce a divisional champion at Kentucky? Spurrier will retire soon what then for the Gamecocks? The trend for the East in the next 6 years doesn't look promising. The trend in the West is still pointing up. So what do we do?

When we broke into divisions in 92 I hoped and suggested that we would go to divisions that were flexible. I felt we should each protect three games and that divisions should be based upon the previous year's finish. Odds in one division and evens in the other. If your protected games wound up being in your division you simply scheduled schools from the other side. The scheduling would not really have been that awkward. But at least you would be balancing the scales every year. It's not perfect but it is certainly better than the trends.

Ideally now the addition of 1 or two schools would permit us to balance strength more naturally by spreading out the OOD games.

Well the Vols were last in the championship game in '07, UGA last won the SEC in '05. I think thart Butch is leading UT in the right direction and based upon the turnaround time from Zook to Meyer, all the Gators need is the right coach. As you stated, going to 15 or 16 teams would provide the refresh you are talking about and create new goals for teams to aspire to.

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:16 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  They are pretty much screwed now.

Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

Ahem...

Georgia is looking pretty good too....

(10-05-2014 12:14 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Probably, but I don't see Mizzou winning against Georgia this year and I don't think they will be favored against either of their SEC West opponents. It is quite conceivable given that each East team has two West teams to play that the winner of the East will have 3 conference losses this year and the champion will have to be determined by the tie breaker rules.

What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

Ahem...

Georgia is looking pretty good too....

Wisconsin: OUT 2 Losses.
Nebraska: Likely Out 1 loss and one lousy win against McNeese State
Illinois: OUT
Michigan: Complete and abject incompetency.
Rutgers: Will go to a decent bowl IMO.
Iowa: OUT
Minnesota: OUT
Northwestern: Will likely get a bowl.
Maryland: OUT (like all ACC schools not named F.S.U.)
Indiana: Alive for a bowl
Purdue: Actually has a pulse and is having a good year for them.
Penn State: Could make a bowl
Ohio State: If only Braxton Miller were healthy. They'll make a good bowl.
Michigan State: If they win out they are the Big 10's rep in a 4 team playoff. If not no soup for the Big 10.

(10-05-2014 06:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:14 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

Ahem...

Georgia is looking pretty good too....

Wisconsin: OUT 2 Losses.
Nebraska: Likely Out 1 loss and one lousy win against McNeese State
Illinois: OUT
Michigan: Complete and abject incompetency.
Rutgers: Will go to a decent bowl IMO.
Iowa: OUT
Minnesota: OUT
Northwestern: Will likely get a bowl.
Maryland: OUT (like all ACC schools not named F.S.U.)
Indiana: Alive for a bowl
Purdue: Actually has a pulse and is having a good year for them.
Penn State: Could make a bowl
Ohio State: If only Braxton Miller were healthy. They'll make a good bowl.
Michigan State: If they win out they are the Big 10's rep in a 4 team playoff. If not no soup for the Big 10.

You obviously aren't watching any Ohio State games. Barnett is good. He is actually a better passer than Miller was but he also has good mobility. That team is handling business now. So what, they had a stumble early on.

You are wrong about your analysis and you are showing extreme bias in it. If Nebraska wins out then either OSU or MSU meets them in the championship game and it is a battle of 11-1 teams. You can try and knock it all you like but public opinion is swaying from your debate point.

Ohio State is looking good. Michigan State needs to learn to play a full game. The fact that you havnt picked up on Ohio State actually being the better team right now shows me that you don't know what you are talking about JR. Sorry bro.

I do not see how SEC parity is bad for the conference. So we risk a national championship game. So what. The conference games are electric now, and that's good for the conference... the goal of every team should be to win their conference. Playoffs are just icing on the cake if you make it that far.

(10-05-2014 10:37 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  I do not see how SEC parity is bad for the conference. So we risk a national championship game. So what. The conference games are electric now, and that's good for the conference... the goal of every team should be to win their conference. Playoffs are just icing on the cake if you make it that far.

I completely agree. You will definitely have a representative and shouldn't that be how it is? Why does a conference need more than one representative to take on all comers from the rest of the Nation? It just seems childish and selfish to want more. Have your Champion and then see if anyone else can knock the King off his Throne.

Why the need for an Insurance team that only helps reduce the chance of an SEC team not repeating?

When your West Champion plays the East champion, there is no reason for that game to be nullified. That is how it would be if both teams end up going to the National Tournament.

(10-05-2014 10:09 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 06:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:14 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

Ahem...

Georgia is looking pretty good too....

Wisconsin: OUT 2 Losses.
Nebraska: Likely Out 1 loss and one lousy win against McNeese State
Illinois: OUT
Michigan: Complete and abject incompetency.
Rutgers: Will go to a decent bowl IMO.
Iowa: OUT
Minnesota: OUT
Northwestern: Will likely get a bowl.
Maryland: OUT (like all ACC schools not named F.S.U.)
Indiana: Alive for a bowl
Purdue: Actually has a pulse and is having a good year for them.
Penn State: Could make a bowl
Ohio State: If only Braxton Miller were healthy. They'll make a good bowl.
Michigan State: If they win out they are the Big 10's rep in a 4 team playoff. If not no soup for the Big 10.

You obviously aren't watching any Ohio State games. Barnett is good. He is actually a better passer than Miller was but he also has good mobility. That team is handling business now. So what, they had a stumble early on.

You are wrong about your analysis and you are showing extreme bias in it. If Nebraska wins out then either OSU or MSU meets them in the championship game and it is a battle of 11-1 teams. You can try and knock it all you like but public opinion is swaying from your debate point.

Ohio State is looking good. Michigan State needs to learn to play a full game. The fact that you havnt picked up on Ohio State actually being the better team right now shows me that you don't know what you are talking about JR. Sorry bro.

H1 contact me again when you are no longer in denial about how dire things are in the Big 10. I'm afraid right now you are the one who doesn't know whereof you speak. Let's stick to realignment.

(10-05-2014 11:14 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 10:09 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 06:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:14 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

Ahem...

Georgia is looking pretty good too....

Wisconsin: OUT 2 Losses.
Nebraska: Likely Out 1 loss and one lousy win against McNeese State
Illinois: OUT
Michigan: Complete and abject incompetency.
Rutgers: Will go to a decent bowl IMO.
Iowa: OUT
Minnesota: OUT
Northwestern: Will likely get a bowl.
Maryland: OUT (like all ACC schools not named F.S.U.)
Indiana: Alive for a bowl
Purdue: Actually has a pulse and is having a good year for them.
Penn State: Could make a bowl
Ohio State: If only Braxton Miller were healthy. They'll make a good bowl.
Michigan State: If they win out they are the Big 10's rep in a 4 team playoff. If not no soup for the Big 10.

You obviously aren't watching any Ohio State games. Barnett is good. He is actually a better passer than Miller was but he also has good mobility. That team is handling business now. So what, they had a stumble early on.

You are wrong about your analysis and you are showing extreme bias in it. If Nebraska wins out then either OSU or MSU meets them in the championship game and it is a battle of 11-1 teams. You can try and knock it all you like but public opinion is swaying from your debate point.

Ohio State is looking good. Michigan State needs to learn to play a full game. The fact that you havnt picked up on Ohio State actually being the better team right now shows me that you don't know what you are talking about JR. Sorry bro.

H1 contact me again when you are no longer in denial about how dire things are in the Big 10. I'm afraid right now you are the one who doesn't know whereof you speak. Let's stick to realignment.

I will contact you again as the season goes exactly as I am saying it will. Quite frankly plenty of others are seeing it exactly as I am. There is only one of us in denial. Good bye.

(10-05-2014 06:13 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-05-2014 12:14 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:48 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:42 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-29-2014 07:36 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  What happens if that team ends up winning the SEC Championship game?

Anger, followed by shock, followed by a new divisional alignment. Vanderbilt and Missouri to the West, Auburn and Alabama to the East and two divisions that could yield a champion on any given year will emerge. Right now Tennessee, Florida, and Georgia are suffering from ACC disease infecting them because the Vols are too close to North Carolina and the other states have to associate with in state ACC fan contagion.

That is a very bad scenario that could very well happen. Remember me saying awhile back how increasing SEC parity could end up harming the conference? The SEC needs four divisions and a four team conference tournament as much as anyone else. At least that way, whomever wins it will have two of the best wins back to back from all of the conference tournaments to sell themselves as earning a spot in the final National Playoff.

Ahem...

Georgia is looking pretty good too....

Wisconsin: OUT 2 Losses.
Nebraska: Likely Out 1 loss and one lousy win against McNeese State
Illinois: OUT
Michigan: Complete and abject incompetency.
Rutgers: Will go to a decent bowl IMO.
Iowa: OUT
Minnesota: OUT
Northwestern: Will likely get a bowl.
Maryland: OUT (like all ACC schools not named F.S.U.)
Indiana: Alive for a bowl
Purdue: Actually has a pulse and is having a good year for them.
Penn State: Could make a bowl
Ohio State: If only Braxton Miller were healthy. They'll make a good bowl.
Michigan State: If they win out they are the Big 10's rep in a 4 team playoff. If not no soup for the Big 10.

It's a good thing that a conference only needs one team to be good ever year..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVm1KcrHM6s