I still think Michigan State has a chance to make the playoffs, i.e. if they run the table and have oregon run the table. Long term, Ohio State, Penn State, Wisconsin and Michigan State are in good hands. Michigan is a cluster, nebraska and Iowa have potential but might need new coaches. Yet, those 7 school's all have the potential for great programs. I do think the big 10 needs to look at Florida state or Oklahoma for expansion to be paired with Kansas. IF they can bring in all 3 great, than focus on texas for spot 18. I would forget about Uconn, UNC or UVa though…well i do like the UVA + Va tech combo.

(09-06-2014 11:53 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  Maryland might just win the Big Ten this year. LOL

And that after they get curbed stomped by the Mountainers!

(09-07-2014 09:54 AM)Tigeer Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 11:53 PM)TampaKnight Wrote:  Maryland might just win the Big Ten this year. LOL

And that after they get curbed stomped by the Mountainers!

Maryland doesn't look too bad. WV/Maryland should be a pretty good game.

(09-07-2014 12:18 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 11:32 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Heinous, you're crying like a little girl because people on this forum are rightfully calling out the B1G for an embarrassing performance today, and you're big post is to say the ACC has bad teams... You make me chuckle with your B1G bias...

Crying? Oh you silly little boy and your continuous issue of projecting your issues upon others.

I'm merely talking down to inferiors, such as you.

I said the Big Ten had a horrible day, what I am calling out is the people going even further trying to say this week has decided the season. Of course you are ignoring that and trying to create a fabrication of the truth, as you always do. Keep on trying little liar.

You should stop before you embarrass yourself further. The B1G blew it this weekend, and there's no recovering from the damage this season. All your talk about how "superior" of a guy you are is nothing more than a sideshow that distracts from the subject. If anyone is projecting in this thread - it's you.

(09-07-2014 10:08 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 12:18 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 11:32 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Heinous, you're crying like a little girl because people on this forum are rightfully calling out the B1G for an embarrassing performance today, and you're big post is to say the ACC has bad teams... You make me chuckle with your B1G bias...

Crying? Oh you silly little boy and your continuous issue of projecting your issues upon others.

I'm merely talking down to inferiors, such as you.

I said the Big Ten had a horrible day, what I am calling out is the people going even further trying to say this week has decided the season. Of course you are ignoring that and trying to create a fabrication of the truth, as you always do. Keep on trying little liar.

You should stop before you embarrass yourself further. The B1G blew it this weekend, and there's no recovering from the damage this season. All your talk about how "superior" of a guy you are is nothing more than a sideshow that distracts from the subject. If anyone is projecting in this thread - it's you.

Embarrassment only exists if the person cares what the others think of him, without that there is no embarrassment. There is only Miko the Troll trying to create that feeling in someone else.

Honestly guy I really don't care what you think about me, you are the biggest troll here and the biggest joke.

It is the second week and folks are saying the Big Ten is out of the playoff race here. If you do not have the intelligence to comprehend the difference between me saying The Big Ten had a bad week and the Big Ten is not out of the playoff race yet then I don't know what can be done for your inferior status.

Big Ten may not be out of the race yet- but it would take a LOT for them to get back in. Unless a Nebraska or iowa can run the table- which doesn't seem likely at all. A 1 loss Big 10 champ is going to have a real uphill battle. They aren't going to be getting in over at least a 1 loss SEC champ(and quite possibly a 2 loss SEC champ)- FSU could lose a game and if they're the ACC champs they'll be in over them. Oklahoma/Baylor could lose a game and if they're champs of Big 12 they likely are in over them. P12 champ with 1 loss likely in over B10 champ. ND at 11-1 likely in.

Michigan State could run the table and end the season with only a loss to third ranked Oregon AT Oregon in the second week which we have already been told that it is very possible the Committee looks more strongly upon late season wins and losses.

The same could be said of a single Wisconsin loss to LSU down in Texas in the first week of the season.

For those two teams, it becomes important that Oregon and LSU have strong seasons.

MSU's problem is right now they could have only 1 ranked win on their schedule- Nebraska. Compared to the other teams- that just isn't good. Just don't have the meat on their schedule that others have.

(09-07-2014 10:47 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 10:08 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 12:18 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 11:32 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Heinous, you're crying like a little girl because people on this forum are rightfully calling out the B1G for an embarrassing performance today, and you're big post is to say the ACC has bad teams... You make me chuckle with your B1G bias...

Crying? Oh you silly little boy and your continuous issue of projecting your issues upon others.

I'm merely talking down to inferiors, such as you.

I said the Big Ten had a horrible day, what I am calling out is the people going even further trying to say this week has decided the season. Of course you are ignoring that and trying to create a fabrication of the truth, as you always do. Keep on trying little liar.

You should stop before you embarrass yourself further. The B1G blew it this weekend, and there's no recovering from the damage this season. All your talk about how "superior" of a guy you are is nothing more than a sideshow that distracts from the subject. If anyone is projecting in this thread - it's you.

Embarrassment only exists if the person cares what the others think of him, without that there is no embarrassment. There is only Miko the Troll trying to create that feeling in someone else.

Honestly guy I really don't care what you think about me, you are the biggest troll here and the biggest joke.

It is the second week and folks are saying the Big Ten is out of the playoff race here. If you do not have the intelligence to comprehend the difference between me saying The Big Ten had a bad week and the Big Ten is not out of the playoff race yet then I don't know what can be done for your inferior status.

(09-07-2014 11:00 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Michigan State could run the table and end the season with only a loss to third ranked Oregon AT Oregon in the second week which we have already been told that it is very possible the Committee looks more strongly upon late season wins and losses.

The same could be said of a single Wisconsin loss to LSU down in Texas in the first week of the season.

For those two teams, it becomes important that Oregon and LSU have strong seasons.

While I agree with your point throughout this thread that it's too early to predict that the BiG champ is out of the playoffs definitely, I think at this point MSU would not only have to win out, but win out convincingly (with maybe only one close win in the BiG) or hope other conference champions and their second place teams take a huge step backward.

The BiG has far too many great programs for them not to contend for a spot annually, but this has not been a good start so far in regard to this particular year, and this particular year only.

Cheers,
Neil

(09-07-2014 10:47 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 10:08 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 12:18 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 11:32 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Heinous, you're crying like a little girl because people on this forum are rightfully calling out the B1G for an embarrassing performance today, and you're big post is to say the ACC has bad teams... You make me chuckle with your B1G bias...

Crying? Oh you silly little boy and your continuous issue of projecting your issues upon others.

I'm merely talking down to inferiors, such as you.

I said the Big Ten had a horrible day, what I am calling out is the people going even further trying to say this week has decided the season. Of course you are ignoring that and trying to create a fabrication of the truth, as you always do. Keep on trying little liar.

You should stop before you embarrass yourself further. The B1G blew it this weekend, and there's no recovering from the damage this season. All your talk about how "superior" of a guy you are is nothing more than a sideshow that distracts from the subject. If anyone is projecting in this thread - it's you.

Embarrassment only exists if the person cares what the others think of him, without that there is no embarrassment. There is only Miko the Troll trying to create that feeling in someone else.

Honestly guy I really don't care what you think about me, you are the biggest troll here and the biggest joke.

It is the second week and folks are saying the Big Ten is out of the playoff race here. If you do not have the intelligence to comprehend the difference between me saying The Big Ten had a bad week and the Big Ten is not out of the playoff race yet then I don't know what can be done for your inferior status.

Don't give miko the light of day, he merely wants to get under your skin.

(09-07-2014 11:08 AM)omniorange Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 11:00 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Michigan State could run the table and end the season with only a loss to third ranked Oregon AT Oregon in the second week which we have already been told that it is very possible the Committee looks more strongly upon late season wins and losses.

The same could be said of a single Wisconsin loss to LSU down in Texas in the first week of the season.

For those two teams, it becomes important that Oregon and LSU have strong seasons.

While I agree with your point throughout this thread that it's too early to predict that the BiG champ is out of the playoffs definitely, I think at this point MSU would not only have to win out, but win out convincingly (with maybe only one close win in the BiG) or hope other conference champions and their second place teams take a huge step backward.

The BiG has far too many great programs for them not to contend for a spot annually, but this has not been a good start so far in regard to this particular year, and this particular year only.

Cheers,
Neil

I have said it many times already but I will say it again for you Neil because I like you, you are one of the few of quality still left around this place.

This was a terrible, terrible, terrible week for the Big Ten. We have already been told though that it is very likely the Committee weighs later season and post season games more heavily than early season games. With that being said, whatever happens going forward is very important for the Big Ten as a whole.

I listed Michigan State and Wisky because in my opinion, those are the two teams the Big Ten needs to win out. I have zero faith in Ohio State and Michigan. They have serious ego issues there and don't know how to act in a fight, when they get punched in the mouth.

If Michigan State and Wisconsin both go 11-1 and meet in the Conference Championship then the Big Ten is likely represented in the Playoff.

Let's look at their schedules.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/big-t...hedule.php

As you can see, Michigan State does not play Wisconsin during the regular season so they wont screw each other in that regard. Michigan State has both Michigan and Ohio State AT HOME. They have Nebraska at home too. They have an extremely favorable schedule going forward seeing what we have seen so far this year. I definitely favor them to be the East representative in the Big Ten Championship at 11-1.


http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/big-t...hedule.php

Now we look at Wisconsin. Low and behold, we have yet another favorable schedule. They play Nebraska at home. Could Iowa be a challenge at Iowa the week after? Sure, maybe but from what we have seen so far I would heavily favor Wisky in that game for now. I havnt seen anything of USF this year, they come to Camp Randle so that should be a good chance for Wisconsin to showcase themselves before the conference season begins.


The table is set for a battle between an 11-1 Michigan State and an 11-1 Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship. By then they both should be favorably ranked. The winner will have just as good of a chance to get into the playoff as any other one loss champ.

(09-07-2014 11:16 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 10:47 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 10:08 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 12:18 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(09-06-2014 11:32 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Heinous, you're crying like a little girl because people on this forum are rightfully calling out the B1G for an embarrassing performance today, and you're big post is to say the ACC has bad teams... You make me chuckle with your B1G bias...

Crying? Oh you silly little boy and your continuous issue of projecting your issues upon others.

I'm merely talking down to inferiors, such as you.

I said the Big Ten had a horrible day, what I am calling out is the people going even further trying to say this week has decided the season. Of course you are ignoring that and trying to create a fabrication of the truth, as you always do. Keep on trying little liar.

You should stop before you embarrass yourself further. The B1G blew it this weekend, and there's no recovering from the damage this season. All your talk about how "superior" of a guy you are is nothing more than a sideshow that distracts from the subject. If anyone is projecting in this thread - it's you.

Embarrassment only exists if the person cares what the others think of him, without that there is no embarrassment. There is only Miko the Troll trying to create that feeling in someone else.

Honestly guy I really don't care what you think about me, you are the biggest troll here and the biggest joke.

It is the second week and folks are saying the Big Ten is out of the playoff race here. If you do not have the intelligence to comprehend the difference between me saying The Big Ten had a bad week and the Big Ten is not out of the playoff race yet then I don't know what can be done for your inferior status.

Don't give miko the light of day, he merely wants to get under your skin.

He tries, I'm just letting him know how poor his attempts are. Every time he tries to project upon me such things as "embarrassment", I answer merely to shine a light upon his troll tactics. He only embarrasses himself since it is obvious he cares so much about what others think of him, he projects his own feelings in that regard upon me by thinking I care so much because he cares so much.

The bottom line is the only way a Big Ten team gets in is if the champion of The SEC, ACC, PAC or Big 12 stumbles along the way. If another conference champ loses you will see a debate between those two. Agreed it is much too early to pronounce The Big Ten dead but even the biggest homers will tell you it's on life support.
CJ

the problem for Michigan St in that scenario- they very possibly have 0 wins against top 25 teams going into that Wisconsin game. By definition Nebraska would have 2 losses at least and very possibly not ranked. Wisconsin could have 0 ranked wins as well. I'm sorry but the winner of that game with 1 ranked win just doesn't compare to what the other conferences are going to have.

The big 10 isn't RIP they have just had setbacks and i don't like how they boxed themselves into a corner with expansion. Yet, none of their moves have been bad rather their process has been bad. Actually, i take that back, some of their moves have been horrible but are fixed with no issues. The two moves i'm thinking are Legends and Leaders name, dumb and putting Purdue in the West and Michigan State in the east, dumber…that should be changed next season. As for expansion, either punch of offering KU and OU combo or FSU solo does the job. I like the combo of FSU and KU for top football and hoop school's.

Pod A: PSU, FSU, Rut, Mar
Pod B: UM, OSU, IU, Pur
Pod C: NW, ILL, WIS, MSU
Pod D: MIN, IO, NEb, KU

3-2-2-2 format, title game in chicago

The thing that is RIP is Texas, man Dodds should be run out of the state for F'ing things up so much. On a larger scale, he along with the folks running UT personally destroyed a good chunk of the fabric of college football across the country with their actions.

While I do agree that the B1G is not out at this point but nobody seems to factor in Notre Dame. They potentially have games against UNC,Louisville, ASU,Stanford, USC,& FSU & all of them could be ranked when they play. Remember it's the 4 best teams & the Irish will be in contention if they manage this schedule IMO

(09-07-2014 11:36 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  The table is set for a battle between an 11-1 Michigan State and an 11-1 Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship. By then they both should be favorably ranked. The winner will have just as good of a chance to get into the playoff as any other one loss champ.

This more than anything is the key for the B1G going forward. Because if Oregon and LSU are in each in their respective CCG, the losses won't be viewed nearly are harshly. But its imperative that both Wisky and MSU win out. Because there aren't any 'good' losses to be had in conference.

(09-07-2014 11:42 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  The bottom line is the only way a Big Ten team gets in is if the champion of The SEC, ACC, PAC or Big 12 stumbles along the way. If another conference champ loses you will see a debate between those two. Agreed it is much too early to pronounce The Big Ten dead but even the biggest homers will tell you it's on life support.
CJ

Life Support? No, I just laid out a feasible scenario. It is not a stretch to see Wisky and Michigan State going 11-1 with their schedules. Click the links and see for yourself.

It was a very bad week and that is it. It is just as possible that teams from those conferences stumble at some point.

The Big 12 has round robin, that is why it is always likely to happen there.

The ACC? You mean Florida State.
http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa-14/acc/2...hedule.php

Their next game is against Clemson at home. FSU is favored but could stumble.

Their next game is against NC State AT NC State. The Wolfpack has a thing for FSU and it's their home game.

Three games later we see Notre Dame come to Tallahassee. We will know by then just how strong this Irish team is.

They play AT Louisville, AT Miami and then finish the season with Florida. There are possibilities there for stumbling.

For Oklahoma? Who knows, maybe they stumble next week AT Tennessee. They have to travel again the next week to West Virginia. WVU showed off pretty well against Alabama. They have TCU the next week at TCU. I don't know much about TCU this year.

Maybe Texas will have their **** together the week after that for the RRR game, I wouldn't bet on it but it's possible.

They have Kansas State, Baylor and OSU all at home but all still possible stumbles.

They have to travel to Texas Tech.

There are always possibilities of stumbles in the Big 12. Their round robin insures that every single year.

Oregon's schedule going forward actually looks great. Their biggest threat is their Stanford game and that game is in Autzen Stadium. Their away game test will come at UCLA. Maybe the Bruins will get their **** together still but right now they look underwhelming.

Oregon winning out helps Michigan State.

(09-07-2014 11:44 AM)stever20 Wrote:  the problem for Michigan St in that scenario- they very possibly have 0 wins against top 25 teams going into that Wisconsin game. By definition Nebraska would have 2 losses at least and very possibly not ranked. Wisconsin could have 0 ranked wins as well. I'm sorry but the winner of that game with 1 ranked win just doesn't compare to what the other conferences are going to have.

You so love to skew things. The Big Ten always gets favorable rankings. Two 11-1 teams from the Big Ten will be ranked in the top ten and history tells us that.

Your conference, the Big 12 is more likely to harm it's chances at this point. Michigan State and Wisky are set up just fine for a big time Championship game that the Committee will be watching very closely. The Big 12 doesn't have that. The Big 12 has plenty of match ups during the season that could create a two loss champion for the Big 12 and I illustrated that in regards to Oklahoma in my last post.