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RE: FIU and the future of CUSA
(09-10-2014 03:41 AM)goherd24herdfans Wrote: (09-09-2014 07:56 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: (09-09-2014 02:48 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote: (09-09-2014 02:11 PM)Smaug Wrote: (09-09-2014 02:07 PM)FlyHawk98 Wrote: I think the point has been made. FIU doesn't bring anything to the table. It was a big time mistake to invite them and they continue to prove this.
You can start with post #32.
There are other sports as well we finished ahead of Marshall just last year (women's track and field, women's golf, and women's swimming and diving). Just 3 years ago FIU football team was playing the school the ignorants in this thread apparently follow in the St. Petersburg Bowl game. The previous year, FIU won the Detroit Little Caesars Bowl game vs. Toledo.
Baseball, while down the last 3 years or so, have been in NCAA post season 9 times, and is consistently a very good program as well.
Sand Volleyball, last season FIU finished 5th in the national championships.
Of course, we bring an area of recruiting (in every sport, but especially in football) which most fellow C-USA teams can benefit into tapping into, while yes, bringing in a big market to the fold.
Education. Taking away Rice away from the rest of C-USA (they are in another league educationally), FIU ranks among the top half in C-USA in pretty much every single parameter of importance (number of students, entering freshmen GPA's, SAT's and ACT's, Research expenditures, % admitted freshmen students from applicants, College of Medicine, College of Law, Endowment, and other parameters). Take into consideration that FIU opened its doors in 1972 to students, just 42 years ago.
I don't want to compare to any other C-USA school, because my point is not to make FIU look better at the expense of any particular school, but let's not be ridiculous in this ignorant rampage against FIU, just because we have sucked in football the last 3 years. It's superficial, dumb, and yes, ignorant.
Go Panthers, and Go C-USA!
Thank you. This is all I was asking for. Didn't realize it was that dang difficult. I'm not on an "ignorant rampage."
Maybe I should apologize for not really caring to much about any other sport but football and I guess men's basketball. It's funny you want to think bad of me for my attitude towards FIU, but yet you come at me with this condescending tone. Oh well, guess we're just more alike than you realized.
As to FIU. That is a lot of positives and you should be proud of that. Out of all those sports, I would have to say that sand volleyball is the coolest. I figured baseball was good. I'm also surprised that you didn't list anything about soccer.
I will cheer for FIU as long as they are in CUSA.
A. Very little people care about sports outside of Football... then a big drop to basketball.... then a huge drop futher to baseball..... then its a drop off of everest for other sports. No one cares. That means nothing. They exist mostly because they have to. Title 9.
B. No one really cares about academics either. Hardly anyone on this sports board, or in the general public, look at cusa school lineup and say "? Man, fiu.... they have some great academics and sat scores there!"
C. FIU was a good program. They fired their coach for no reason. Now they face the consequences of that action. Will they be good again in the future? Sure. But they do bring nothing to the table NOW. Flyhawk is right. FAU brings a florida presence, no need for 2. I truly believe inviting ULL instead of fiu was the righr call. They have a good program that can raise the SOS and respect of the conference.
D. You can say they bring media markets etc, but do they really? Just because they are there doesnt mean anyone cares about them. No one goes to the games.... how many d you think day they are watching the fiu game? There is miami, ucf, fau, fsu, florida, florida state, south florida, all ahead of fiu. They put maybe 300 in the stands, maybe 500 view on TV if i had to take a wild guess. They dont bring a media market.
This doesn't change the fact that i will rpot my ass off for FIU, OOC and in any bowl game. I still support you. But it is what it is. Thats reaching for things that are brought to the table.
So you believe ULL should've been invited over FIU because they have put together 3 good seasons? FIU was coming off back to back bowl games when we were invited which is a perfect example why a school shouldn't be invited simply because they're good at the moment. What would you do with ULL for example when they're not winning? What do they bring to the table when they're not winning?
By the way, you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to TV markets. I'll give you a quick example. Our last year in the SB we played FAU towards the end of the season. Both teams were struggling badly and were posting a 2-9 I believe. Everyone in the SB quickly began mocking us once the tv ratings for the game became available. About 200k people tuned in to watch the game and it was quickly compared to another televised SB game between two of the top teams which drew close to million viewers I believe. I quickly pointed something out that no one was able to dispute. A MAC game between two schools with winning record drew less viewers than the FIU vs FAU game. THAT IS WHY MARKET IS SO IMPORTANT. There are schools that even with a winning record can not attract many viwers because don't have many potential viwers. When FIU had a lot of interest from the fans in 2011 we played Louisville. We set a record in the SB and had over 1.2 million viewers. We all have played against elite programs like Alabama and company so don't tell me people tuned in because Louisville was playing. People tuned in because there was a buzed down here in Miami about FIU and the media believe that we could beat them. And we did- on national television. That is the potential that some are talking about. We can draw 200k viwers when we are having a terrible season and have the potential to draw over a million when we are playing well.
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