(09-03-2014 12:42 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:38 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:48 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:46 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Former asst. coach at Memphis who now is in NFL (think he is still there) told me that SEC cheating was so rampant that Tigers didn't have a chance in recruiting. His son played basketball for me in mid '90's when statement was made.

Yes it was rampant, but if I had been Rip, if the didn't play in Memphis and there was funny business going on, they wouldn't play in the $EC or I'd blow the whistle on every high school coach and recruiter involved. I lost respect for him because of that, but I really liked Rip.

Rip would've been blackballed if he'd done that. You can't blame the guy for NOT committing career suicide.

black balled for what? his responsibility was the football program at Memphis, not worrying about future jobs.

Blackballed for snitching, what do you think? Bruce Pearl did what you're saying with only ONE recruit, and he couldn't get work in D1 for 10 years. Future jobs aside, he alienates our program from every highschool in the region because he's now a whistleblower. Terrible idea.

Agree 100%.

His "responsibility" is to protect his future earnings potential and be a good steward of the Memphis program.

(09-03-2014 12:43 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:28 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Sheesh, I know guys in their 30s that are Associate ADs at UT and Memphis.

Rip has had a long fall since he was a Head Coach.

A long fall with a great job in Los Angeles, a fully vested NFL pension, and much less stress in his life.

A long fall we all wouldn't mind.

How do you know it's a great job? What's his NFL pension?

He gets to hang out in LA...at a great university. IIRC, he works with alumni development.

NFL coaches pension is complicated to calculate, but for those coaches on teams that participate in the plan, they can earn up to 75% of their top 5 consecutive years average salary per year for life from age 65 on. This includes salary from playoff games. The maximum pension benefit per year at age 65 is 200k. Roughly, at age 65, they will get 5% of their average salary each year they work up to a maximum of 15 years (75% of ther salary) per year of retirement. They also have the option of a lump sum benefit age age 65

(09-03-2014 12:42 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:38 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:48 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:46 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Former asst. coach at Memphis who now is in NFL (think he is still there) told me that SEC cheating was so rampant that Tigers didn't have a chance in recruiting. His son played basketball for me in mid '90's when statement was made.

Yes it was rampant, but if I had been Rip, if the didn't play in Memphis and there was funny business going on, they wouldn't play in the $EC or I'd blow the whistle on every high school coach and recruiter involved. I lost respect for him because of that, but I really liked Rip.

Rip would've been blackballed if he'd done that. You can't blame the guy for NOT committing career suicide.

black balled for what? his responsibility was the football program at Memphis, not worrying about future jobs.

Blackballed for snitching, what do you think? Bruce Pearl did what you're saying with only ONE recruit, and he couldn't get work in D1 for 10 years. Future jobs aside, he alienates our program from every highschool in the region because he's now a whistleblower. Terrible idea.

Alienate or not we didn't get squat before or after all that. Eventually the guy from Bama came back to Memphis way after the fact.

Point being, we never had a football coach that was willing to stand up for the program without worrying about the other clutter.

Cal told the local coaches where to stick it and still got the Memphis kids he wanted most of the time.

I think other schools and the NFL would have had the same amount of respect for Rip if he had blown the whistle. Except of course for those he would blow the whistle against, and screw them.

No one will ever change my mind about that, a lot of people knew what was going on and turned their heads, while everyone wanted to blame RC going forward.

(09-03-2014 01:44 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:42 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:38 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:48 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Yes it was rampant, but if I had been Rip, if the didn't play in Memphis and there was funny business going on, they wouldn't play in the $EC or I'd blow the whistle on every high school coach and recruiter involved. I lost respect for him because of that, but I really liked Rip.

Rip would've been blackballed if he'd done that. You can't blame the guy for NOT committing career suicide.

black balled for what? his responsibility was the football program at Memphis, not worrying about future jobs.

Blackballed for snitching, what do you think? Bruce Pearl did what you're saying with only ONE recruit, and he couldn't get work in D1 for 10 years. Future jobs aside, he alienates our program from every highschool in the region because he's now a whistleblower. Terrible idea.

Alienate or not we didn't get squat before or after all that. Eventually the guy from Bama came back to Memphis way after the fact.

Point being, we never had a football coach that was willing to stand up for the program without worrying about the other clutter.

Cal told the local coaches where to stick it and still got the Memphis kids he wanted most of the time.

I think other schools and the NFL would have had the same amount of respect for Rip if he had blown the whistle. Except of course for those he would blow the whistle against, and screw them.

No one will ever change my mind about that, a lot of people knew what was going on and turned their heads, while everyone wanted to blame RC going forward.

Well, why didn't YOU say anything?

(09-03-2014 01:44 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:42 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:38 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:48 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Yes it was rampant, but if I had been Rip, if the didn't play in Memphis and there was funny business going on, they wouldn't play in the $EC or I'd blow the whistle on every high school coach and recruiter involved. I lost respect for him because of that, but I really liked Rip.

Rip would've been blackballed if he'd done that. You can't blame the guy for NOT committing career suicide.

black balled for what? his responsibility was the football program at Memphis, not worrying about future jobs.

Blackballed for snitching, what do you think? Bruce Pearl did what you're saying with only ONE recruit, and he couldn't get work in D1 for 10 years. Future jobs aside, he alienates our program from every highschool in the region because he's now a whistleblower. Terrible idea.

Alienate or not we didn't get squat before or after all that. Eventually the guy from Bama came back to Memphis way after the fact.

Point being, we never had a football coach that was willing to stand up for the program without worrying about the other clutter.

Cal told the local coaches where to stick it and still got the Memphis kids he wanted most of the time.

I think other schools and the NFL would have had the same amount of respect for Rip if he had blown the whistle. Except of course for those he would blow the whistle against, and screw them.

No one will ever change my mind about that, a lot of people knew what was going on and turned their heads, while everyone wanted to blame RC going forward.

Memphis high school coaches would have steered their kids even farther from Memphis if he had done that.
He was trying to build a Memphis program with Memphis kids. Kind of hard to do when no Memphis kids would have signed after that.
There is a code amongst kids...and the coaching ranks I guess. You DON'T snitch....or else.

(09-03-2014 12:50 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:43 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:28 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Sheesh, I know guys in their 30s that are Associate ADs at UT and Memphis.

Rip has had a long fall since he was a Head Coach.

A long fall with a great job in Los Angeles, a fully vested NFL pension, and much less stress in his life.

A long fall we all wouldn't mind.

How do you know it's a great job? What's his NFL pension?

He gets to hang out in LA...at a great university. IIRC, he works with alumni development.

NFL coaches pension is complicated to calculate, but for those coaches on teams that participate in the plan, they can earn up to 75% of their top 5 consecutive years average salary per year for life from age 65 on. This includes salary from playoff games. The maximum pension benefit per year at age 65 is 200k. Roughly, at age 65, they will get 5% of their average salary each year they work up to a maximum of 15 years (75% of ther salary) per year of retirement. They also have the option of a lump sum benefit age age 65

that still isn't a ton in Los Angeles.

(09-03-2014 02:48 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:50 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:43 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:28 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Sheesh, I know guys in their 30s that are Associate ADs at UT and Memphis.

Rip has had a long fall since he was a Head Coach.

A long fall with a great job in Los Angeles, a fully vested NFL pension, and much less stress in his life.

A long fall we all wouldn't mind.

How do you know it's a great job? What's his NFL pension?

He gets to hang out in LA...at a great university. IIRC, he works with alumni development.

NFL coaches pension is complicated to calculate, but for those coaches on teams that participate in the plan, they can earn up to 75% of their top 5 consecutive years average salary per year for life from age 65 on. This includes salary from playoff games. The maximum pension benefit per year at age 65 is 200k. Roughly, at age 65, they will get 5% of their average salary each year they work up to a maximum of 15 years (75% of ther salary) per year of retirement. They also have the option of a lump sum benefit age age 65

that still isn't a ton in Los Angeles.

I'd like to think he won't retire there, and secondly he's a smart dude that probably has quite a bit stashed away.

(09-03-2014 02:48 PM)fsquid Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:50 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:43 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:28 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:11 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Sheesh, I know guys in their 30s that are Associate ADs at UT and Memphis.

Rip has had a long fall since he was a Head Coach.

A long fall with a great job in Los Angeles, a fully vested NFL pension, and much less stress in his life.

A long fall we all wouldn't mind.

How do you know it's a great job? What's his NFL pension?

He gets to hang out in LA...at a great university. IIRC, he works with alumni development.

NFL coaches pension is complicated to calculate, but for those coaches on teams that participate in the plan, they can earn up to 75% of their top 5 consecutive years average salary per year for life from age 65 on. This includes salary from playoff games. The maximum pension benefit per year at age 65 is 200k. Roughly, at age 65, they will get 5% of their average salary each year they work up to a maximum of 15 years (75% of ther salary) per year of retirement. They also have the option of a lump sum benefit age age 65

that still isn't a ton in Los Angeles.

True. The state rapes it's citizens which is why many here who helped ruin it are headed to Texas to help ruin that state. I like to call them locust...Whatever happened to Stobart?

He's like Johnny Cash, he's been everywhere man.

(09-03-2014 12:48 PM)madtiger Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:42 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:38 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:48 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Yes it was rampant, but if I had been Rip, if the didn't play in Memphis and there was funny business going on, they wouldn't play in the $EC or I'd blow the whistle on every high school coach and recruiter involved. I lost respect for him because of that, but I really liked Rip.

Rip would've been blackballed if he'd done that. You can't blame the guy for NOT committing career suicide.

black balled for what? his responsibility was the football program at Memphis, not worrying about future jobs.

Blackballed for snitching, what do you think? Bruce Pearl did what you're saying with only ONE recruit, and he couldn't get work in D1 for 10 years. Future jobs aside, he alienates our program from every highschool in the region because he's now a whistleblower. Terrible idea.

Agree 100%.

His "responsibility" is to protect his future earnings potential and be a good steward of the Memphis program.

Rip deserves every good thing that comes his way. His tenure here saw him promised things like new practice facilities, new stadium on campus in a reasonable time frame, and many other things that could have elevated this program. Sadly, he got stiffed like so many other guys here by leadership that felt out lied.

(09-03-2014 11:03 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 10:58 AM)Mick Light Wrote:  Had they given Rip what they was promised Tommy West would still be our coach.

And if Tommy West do not have heart issues

And if DeAngelo had 15 years of eligibility...

(09-03-2014 04:56 PM)aardWolf Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:03 AM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 10:58 AM)Mick Light Wrote:  Had they given Rip what they was promised Tommy West would still be our coach.

And if Tommy West do not have heart issues

And if DeAngelo had 15 years of eligibility...

I have no sympathy for Rip. None what so ever. He never should have been hired. FACT!

Run up the middle for three downs and finish with 4th and 7. At least we had good defense.

i still cringe thinking about the inside screen play they ran so much i dubbed it "the bunkie perkins suicide screen"

(09-03-2014 06:51 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  i still cringe thinking about the inside screen play they ran so much i dubbed it "the bunkie perkins suicide screen"

Haha....yep

The coaching decision to put in freshman Travis Anglin inside the 10 yard at Neyland stadium after Neil Suber had just marched the Tigers down the field. Anglin throws a pick on his first snap. I still get pissed about that decision.

All he had to do was make sure a certain reporter or two got tipped off.........

Like reporters need tipping off. They have jobs and careers to protect too

(09-03-2014 09:26 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  All he had to do was make sure a certain reporter or two got tipped off.........

well, who said he didnt?

(09-03-2014 12:38 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:48 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:46 AM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 11:39 AM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Rip should have blown the whistle on all the money that was being paid to the Memphis kids to go to $EC schools. He could have stopped that.

Former asst. coach at Memphis who now is in NFL (think he is still there) told me that SEC cheating was so rampant that Tigers didn't have a chance in recruiting. His son played basketball for me in mid '90's when statement was made.

Yes it was rampant, but if I had been Rip, if the didn't play in Memphis and there was funny business going on, they wouldn't play in the $EC or I'd blow the whistle on every high school coach and recruiter involved. I lost respect for him because of that, but I really liked Rip.

Rip would've been blackballed if he'd done that. You can't blame the guy for NOT committing career suicide.

black balled for what? his responsibility was the football program at Memphis, not worrying about future jobs.

Rip did not have the political; power to out other coaches and not have it come back and bite him in the ass. No Tiger coach would even be allowed on certain campuses in the region if he did that.