(08-29-2014 06:25 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  1) Whether it's 60 days or since '05, however you want to split that hair, the fact is that we're in now and you're not. Period. With autonomy having been voted through, that's going to have SIGNIFICANT ramifications for those that're in as well as those that are not. I think we can all agree on that.

2) I never said I'd see a dime of the $$$ UofL stands to gain from all of this. That is STILL irrelevant however. It in absolutely NO way alters the fact that our standing in a P5 conference is going to have a major POSITIVE impact on our recruiting while UConn's standing as a G5 school is going to have a major NEGATIVE impact on theirs. When P5 schools are able to provide either the full cost or stipend or however they end up wording it, the top shelf recruits are going to start flocking to those schools and away from schools such as UConn that cannot match the offer as a G5 school. I don't have to see a nickle of any of that money to know that it's going to have a huge positive affect on the school that I follow. Why you're hung up on that, I don't know, other than I think you know what I'm saying is true and you're trying to deflect.

3) JR's given the green light to troll in this thread, and troll I shall. I have some stuff to get off of my chest and it's all primarily directed towards UConn fans that have, for MONTHS, hijacked threads talking about how fantastic their school is and how other schools that got into P5 conferences were so inferior to them. They talk about Pitt and Syracuse as though they're crap that don't carry any markets. They've referred to Louisville as "Louisville Community College" and go on and on about how it's everyone else's fault that they got left out but their own. You UConn fans act like you're on Harvard's level academically and like you're the GODS of college athletics on the fields and courts. It's ludicrous and I'm going to laugh at you guys over it a little bit here where I can. This has nothing to do with the behavior of WVU fans or any other fans but UConn fans. And DefConn...you're the A#1 worse offender, so I'm going to take particular amusement in tormenting you until I grow bored with it.

You go Rabbit....and like I said enjoy your fall and winter seasons...they look to be pretty good for you guys.

(08-29-2014 01:39 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 12:20 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 12:15 AM)rednblackattack Wrote:  

(08-28-2014 08:28 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(08-28-2014 07:38 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  It's irrelevant. I don't have to see a dime to know that my school is in, your school is out and that the fact of your school being out is going to have a severe impact upon your recruiting moving forward. I'm not the one deflecting from what's relevant in this conversation.

What's irrelevant, is the fallacy that you, Rabbit_in_Red, will see any of the $$$$$ that Louisville stands to collect.


Also, it was mentioned before, you've (Louisville) been in a P5 conference for nearly 60 days. Don't act like you've been a P5 school for decades, it makes you look childish.

We have been in a power conference since 2005. The Big East and AAC were all BCS leagues

Not according to ESPiN, you haven't. According to them, you've been in a "power" conference less than 60 days.

ESPN headquarters is in Connecticut and if the realignment board has shown us anything it's the fact that nobody in Connecticut knows anything about college football.

Seriously? That's a VERY BOLD statement to make. And please tell me why that is? Funny...I actually know of a few guys who ACTUALLY PLAYED college football at the highest level possible who live not too far from me over the border in CT. You may know of them...Terry Hanratty and Tom Krug..both former QB's at Notre Dame. You also probably listen to Jack Arute on Sirius/XM College Sports Radio (he broadcasts his part of the show from his house which is about 15-20 miles from UCONN's campus). Throw all the shots you want about UCONN not being in the P-5 or why they will NEVER be in the ACC. But get off your high horse about people in CT not knowing about college football. because fact of the matter is there are people in CT who root for college teams who's conference payout makes the one Clemson gets from the ACC look comparable to what UCONN gets from the AAC.

(08-29-2014 06:25 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  2) I never said I'd see a dime of the $$$ UofL stands to gain from all of this. That is STILL irrelevant however. It in absolutely NO way alters the fact that our standing in a P5 conference is going to have a major POSITIVE impact on our recruiting while UConn's standing as a G5 school is going to have a major NEGATIVE impact on theirs. When P5 schools are able to provide either the full cost or stipend or however they end up wording it, the top shelf recruits are going to start flocking to those schools and away from schools such as UConn that cannot match the offer as a G5 school. I don't have to see a nickle of any of that money to know that it's going to have a huge positive affect on the school that I follow. Why you're hung up on that, I don't know, other than I think you know what I'm saying is true and you're trying to deflect.

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The top shelf guys ( football anyway) are still going to go where they always went. Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, etc.. The elite programs will still more often than not get the elite prospects.

Well, there's certainly an element of truth to what you're saying. However, we'll end up getting more of our share than UConn or Cincinnati will with P5 status whereas before we were on a more even playing field. My comments were more in regards to basketball seeing as for some reason UConn fans love to try and flaunt that they won that national championship (despite not realizing how it also makes US look better seeing as we DRUMMED the "reigning national champs" THREE TIMES). But yes, in football the truly elite are going to go where they've always gone but there's still a LOT of really talented players out in the country with which a program can win and it's going to be easier to recruit those kinds of kids to Louisville now than it even would've been last year or a couple of years ago. Certainly easier than trying to recruit them to UConn or Cincinnati when we're ultimately going to be able to offer more thanks to Autonomy being passed.

(08-29-2014 07:38 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Well, there's certainly an element of truth to what you're saying. However, we'll end up getting more of our share than UConn or Cincinnati will with P5 status whereas before we were on a more even playing field. My comments were more in regards to basketball seeing as for some reason UConn fans love to try and flaunt that they won that national championship (despite not realizing how it also makes US look better seeing as we DRUMMED the "reigning national champs" THREE TIMES). But yes, in football the truly elite are going to go where they've always gone but there's still a LOT of really talented players out in the country with which a program can win and it's going to be easier to recruit those kinds of kids to Louisville now than it even would've been last year or a couple of years ago. Certainly easier than trying to recruit them to UConn or Cincinnati when we're ultimately going to be able to offer more thanks to Autonomy being passed.

I doubt you'll see significant impact on basketball merely due to the numbers involved. Much easier for schools to pay stipends to 10-15 players versus the number of players on a football team.

(08-28-2014 06:18 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  It really is pretty stupid to think we give a damn at all that you guys won the title. We won in realignment where it counts most, and now that you're on the outside looking in with a crappy schedule to offer you're not going to get those top flight recruits anymore. You know it, and that's why you're celebrating your last title.

If that is the case how did UC, UL, or Marquette ever do anything of note in C-USA? Schedule doesn't matter in college basketball because it has a true tournament.

(08-29-2014 07:38 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  My comments were more in regards to basketball seeing as for some reason UConn fans love to try and flaunt that they won that national championship (despite not realizing how it also makes US look better seeing as we DRUMMED the "reigning national champs" THREE TIMES).

So you are saying your players choked when it counted while UConn's picked up their game? If anything I think it not only makes you look bad but it makes your coach look bad.

Quote:But yes, in football the truly elite are going to go where they've always gone but there's still a LOT of really talented players out in the country with which a program can win and it's going to be easier to recruit those kinds of kids to Louisville now than it even would've been last year or a couple of years ago. Certainly easier than trying to recruit them to UConn or Cincinnati when we're ultimately going to be able to offer more thanks to Autonomy being passed.

There is no doubt that you guys have more money for that. The only issue is that this whole autonomy thing might ultimately kill college football.

(08-29-2014 09:13 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-28-2014 06:18 PM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  It really is pretty stupid to think we give a damn at all that you guys won the title. We won in realignment where it counts most, and now that you're on the outside looking in with a crappy schedule to offer you're not going to get those top flight recruits anymore. You know it, and that's why you're celebrating your last title.

If that is the case how did UC, UL, or Marquette ever do anything of note in C-USA? Schedule doesn't matter in college basketball because it has a true tournament.

C-USA, when we were all a part of it together, wasn't a bad basketball league. It was sure as hell better than the American is today.

(08-29-2014 09:18 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 07:38 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  My comments were more in regards to basketball seeing as for some reason UConn fans love to try and flaunt that they won that national championship (despite not realizing how it also makes US look better seeing as we DRUMMED the "reigning national champs" THREE TIMES).

So you are saying your players choked when it counted while UConn's picked up their game? If anything I think it not only makes you look bad but it makes your coach look bad.

Quote:But yes, in football the truly elite are going to go where they've always gone but there's still a LOT of really talented players out in the country with which a program can win and it's going to be easier to recruit those kinds of kids to Louisville now than it even would've been last year or a couple of years ago. Certainly easier than trying to recruit them to UConn or Cincinnati when we're ultimately going to be able to offer more thanks to Autonomy being passed.

There is no doubt that you guys have more money for that. The only issue is that this whole autonomy thing might ultimately kill college football.

1) College basketball's usually about matchups. On top of that, how many articles were written about how piss poor the officiating was in the tournament this year? I don't think anyone could look at our game against UK in the tournament and say Louisville choked. Sometimes good teams lose. It happens. I'll leave it at that.

2) So since you didn't have a pithy comeback, witty retort, or informed opinion you're just going to go with the "it's going to kill the sport anyhow" angle. Let me know how that works out for you guys.

(08-29-2014 09:37 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  C-USA, when we were all a part of it together, wasn't a bad basketball league. It was sure as hell better than the American is today.

C-USA never won a title or even made the finals. I think the AAC is considerably better, personally.

(08-29-2014 09:39 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  1) College basketball's usually about matchups. On top of that, how many articles were written about how piss poor the officiating was in the tournament this year? I don't think anyone could look at our game against UK in the tournament and say Louisville choked. Sometimes good teams lose. It happens. I'll leave it at that.

Then don't rip on UConn. Which is what you continue to do. They won the title, they are the champs, everyone else is a chump, including Louisville.

Quote:2) So since you didn't have a pithy comeback, witty retort, or informed opinion you're just going to go with the "it's going to kill the sport anyhow" angle. Let me know how that works out for you guys.

Already has hurt my viewing... didn't even turn on a game last night. I'll watch UC games, and a number of games. However, I won't be watching every night like I did for years. Anecdotal, admittedly, but if a lot of others begin doing the same then the whole scheme is going to collapse. On its face.

CUSA is remembered a whole lot better than they actually were quite frankly....

2004- they had 6 tourney teams- in a 14 team conference. only Cincy was a top 4 seed.
2003- 4 tourney teams in a 14 team conference. Marquette and Louisville top 4 seeds
2002- 3 tourney teams in a 14 team conference.

really? 3 teams?

(08-29-2014 10:03 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 09:39 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  1) College basketball's usually about matchups. On top of that, how many articles were written about how piss poor the officiating was in the tournament this year? I don't think anyone could look at our game against UK in the tournament and say Louisville choked. Sometimes good teams lose. It happens. I'll leave it at that.

Then don't rip on UConn. Which is what you continue to do. They won the title, they are the champs, everyone else is a chump, including Louisville.

Quote:2) So since you didn't have a pithy comeback, witty retort, or informed opinion you're just going to go with the "it's going to kill the sport anyhow" angle. Let me know how that works out for you guys.

Already has hurt my viewing... didn't even turn on a game last night. I'll watch UC games, and a number of games. However, I won't be watching every night like I did for years. Anecdotal, admittedly, but if a lot of others begin doing the same then the whole scheme is going to collapse. On its face.

It's happened to me as well.

Sorry, I forgot Cincinnati even existed. What were you saying again?

(08-29-2014 10:30 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Sorry, I forgot Cincinnati even existed. What were you saying again?

The only reason I know Louisville still exists is because I'm in a pool for the first (next) time your football coach talks with another school about a job, cheats on his wife with a student athlete, or the basketball coach pays for an abortion.

(08-29-2014 10:30 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Sorry, I forgot Cincinnati even existed. What were you saying again?

Hopefully the ACC does more for you than it has for Wake Forest.

(08-29-2014 10:33 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 10:30 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Sorry, I forgot Cincinnati even existed. What were you saying again?

The only reason I know Louisville still exists is because I'm in a pool for the first (next) time your football coach talks with another school about a job, cheats on his wife with a student athlete, or the basketball coach pays for an abortion.

How original, MLB. How very original! Write your own material?

(08-29-2014 10:54 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 10:30 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  Sorry, I forgot Cincinnati even existed. What were you saying again?

Hopefully the ACC does more for you than it has for Wake Forest.

Even if it doesn't, it'll do more for us than it has for Cincinnati.

(08-29-2014 09:39 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 09:18 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(08-29-2014 07:38 AM)Rabbit_in_Red Wrote:  My comments were more in regards to basketball seeing as for some reason UConn fans love to try and flaunt that they won that national championship (despite not realizing how it also makes US look better seeing as we DRUMMED the "reigning national champs" THREE TIMES).

So you are saying your players choked when it counted while UConn's picked up their game? If anything I think it not only makes you look bad but it makes your coach look bad.

Quote:But yes, in football the truly elite are going to go where they've always gone but there's still a LOT of really talented players out in the country with which a program can win and it's going to be easier to recruit those kinds of kids to Louisville now than it even would've been last year or a couple of years ago. Certainly easier than trying to recruit them to UConn or Cincinnati when we're ultimately going to be able to offer more thanks to Autonomy being passed.

There is no doubt that you guys have more money for that. The only issue is that this whole autonomy thing might ultimately kill college football.

1) College basketball's usually about matchups. On top of that, how many articles were written about how piss poor the officiating was in the tournament this year? I don't think anyone could look at our game against UK in the tournament and say Louisville choked. Sometimes good teams lose. It happens. I'll leave it at that.

2) So since you didn't have a pithy comeback, witty retort, or informed opinion you're just going to go with the "it's going to kill the sport anyhow" angle. Let me know how that works out for you guys.

Kentucky solidly defeated UL twice.
UL beat UConn 3 times.
Florida beat UK 3 times.
UConn beat Florida 2 times.

UConn beat UK in the title game and they have the trophy. UL and UF didn't even get to the title game and UK doesn't have the trophy.

As long as UConn has that trophy, all other arguments are moot.

It's 2014 and Oklahoma will still never join the Pac 12.

Why? Because it makes no logical sense.