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RE: MMA
(08-14-2014 09:45 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

So....You don't celebrate when an ECU linebacker closelines a RB?07-coffee3

Big difference. The object of MMA and dogfighting is to beat the **** out of the other person, essentially to a bloody pulp, knock them out or render them unable to fight somehow. I'm not squeemish but I just don't get how that's entertaining. It's nothing more than a glorification of violence.

Just about everybody I've known that was into MMA was one of these jacka$$ wannabees at gyms or a dumb*** hick. I'm sure this opinion somehow makes me a liberal. 07-coffee3
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War Machine was a MMA fighter. He wasn't all that great either.

Being an MMA fighter doesn't equal to being abusive outside the ring or being a d*ckhead.

Some don't like MMA like Blunder. I used to watch every match I could or every PPV.. Not so much anymore. I don't live and die by it. I've done it, however, it is more brutal than any football game I ever played in.. It is a skill competition for most of the matches, but in the last few years, I've seen it become more a of a technical chess match than what it was in the beginning.

Again it didn't give him the right to do this. War Machine lasted a whole 3 fights in the UFC, a few in Bellator, then became a porn star.. What sounds better, MMA fighter beating the dog out of his gf or Pornstar beating the dog out of his gf.
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(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

You beat me to it. Of the thousands of MMA participants, to pick one bad apple and make the illogical leap that the entire sport is culpable is ridiculous. And for anyone to argue that this is not a legitimate sport is also ridiculous. At the higher levels these guys are tremendous athletes. For action and tactics it beats the hell out of boxing. I think there might be an element of p_enis (you can't say p_enis here??) envy from the OP.
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RE: MMA
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

How's the oxygen way up there where your nose is? You might want to take down your sig since it advocates a violent activity.
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RE: MMA
(08-14-2014 10:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

How's the oxygen way up there where your nose is? You might want to take down your sig since it advocates a violent activity.

The air is fine. I outlined the differences and they're pretty clear to me. This is an opinion board after all and I'm very opinionated, that much I'll admit.
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RE: MMA
(08-14-2014 09:47 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:45 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

So....You don't celebrate when an ECU linebacker closelines a RB?07-coffee3

Big difference. The object of MMA and dogfighting is to beat the **** out of the other person, essentially to a bloody pulp, knock them out or render them unable to fight somehow. I'm not squeemish but I just don't get how that's entertaining. It's nothing more than a glorification of violence.

Just about everybody I've known that was into MMA was one of these jacka$$ wannabees at gyms or a dumb*** hick. I'm sure this opinion somehow makes me a liberal. 07-coffee3

At the higher levels you have plenty of these fighters who have given up lucrative jobs, many have college degrees, for higher earnings in the sport. You are aware of how you come across as an arrogant prick, right? Maybe the techniques and technical aspects of the sport are too complicated for you to understand. As a martial arts participant for many years I find your snobbishness offensive.
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I could care less how I come across as this is an opinion board. I'm just speaking to my personal experiences with these folks who do it and who are fans of it. I've known several wannabees who are not much more than white trash and one who abandoned my cousin after she had his baby. The sport glorifies extreme violence and there's a defined sub-culture associated with it. I don't know how anybody can over look that.
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RE: MMA
(08-14-2014 10:24 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

How's the oxygen way up there where your nose is? You might want to take down your sig since it advocates a violent activity.

The air is fine. I outlined the differences and they're pretty clear to me. This is an opinion board after all and I'm very opinionated, that much I'll admit.

The guy who got hit going out of bounds likely suffered a more severe injury than most MMA fighters will ever experience in their careers.
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RE: MMA
(08-14-2014 10:24 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

How's the oxygen way up there where your nose is? You might want to take down your sig since it advocates a violent activity.

The air is fine. I outlined the differences and they're pretty clear to me. This is an opinion board after all and I'm very opinionated, that much I'll admit.

And you certainly are entitled to your opinion, I'll give you that, my bad for not respecting your right to hold that opinion even as I disagree with it.
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RE: MMA
(08-14-2014 10:31 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:24 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:10 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Horrible thing to happen to anyone. I do question though why there was an attempt to conflate the sport of MMA with what is unquestionably an assault and battery.

I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

How's the oxygen way up there where your nose is? You might want to take down your sig since it advocates a violent activity.

The air is fine. I outlined the differences and they're pretty clear to me. This is an opinion board after all and I'm very opinionated, that much I'll admit.

The guy who got hit going out of bounds likely suffered a more severe injury than most MMA fighters will ever experience in their careers.

Yet he's wearing a helmet, pads, got up and walked away. FFS, give it a rest already. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
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Blunder does have a point. You do have a subculture to it. I equate some of those people who watch Wrasslin and think they can do it.

I always thought I could step in a ring with a MMA fighter and hold my own. Wrong. Humbling experience. There are techniques to it, and the real fans the ones who truly understand it and don't try to emulate it are some of the most knowledgeable ones are the fun ones to be around.
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(08-14-2014 10:32 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:31 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:24 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 10:18 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  
(08-14-2014 09:28 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  I equate MMA fans with the same type of people that are entertained by dog fighting. It's a blood sport for simpletons IMHO.

How's the oxygen way up there where your nose is? You might want to take down your sig since it advocates a violent activity.

The air is fine. I outlined the differences and they're pretty clear to me. This is an opinion board after all and I'm very opinionated, that much I'll admit.

The guy who got hit going out of bounds likely suffered a more severe injury than most MMA fighters will ever experience in their careers.

Yet he's wearing a helmet, pads, got up and walked away. FFS, give it a rest already. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.

See the post right above yours. And you didn't hurt my feelings,, I just feel argumentative this morning. 04-cheers
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MMA is the modern version of the Gladiators. It's a sport that doesn't want anyone dead though but it's viciousness could very well produce that. I'm not a fan of it at all. I will watch a boxing match though once in a blue moon.

I used to watch Thai boxing in Thailand but never got into it either. Thai boxing reminds me too much of barrio fighting, all fists and feet. I got into a few of those.
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FWIW.... some outside the ring incidents. You can say these guys aren't the "stars" of the sport (I don't know if they are or aren't) but that's missing the point entirely.

Guy tries strangles girlfriend..
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/uf...-mma-0426/

Death threat...
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2012/mm...hite-0519/

More domestic violence...
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2010/je...-arrested/

More domestic violence...
http://www.mmaweekly.com/anthony-johnson...9-arrest-2

More domestic violence...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arianny-cele...boyfriend/

More domestic violence fun, this guy sounds like a lunatic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Mille...ce_Arrests"
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(08-14-2014 11:10 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  FWIW.... some outside the ring incidents. You can say these guys aren't the "stars" of the sport (I don't know if they are or aren't) but that's missing the point entirely.

Guy tries strangles girlfriend..
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/uf...-mma-0426/

Death threat...
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2012/mm...hite-0519/

More domestic violence...
http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2010/je...-arrested/

More domestic violence...
http://www.mmaweekly.com/anthony-johnson...9-arrest-2

More domestic violence...
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arianny-cele...boyfriend/

More domestic violence fun, this guy sounds like a lunatic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Mille...ce_Arrests"

I don't doubt for a second that MMA spawns some jackasses and fuels aggressive behavior in some of its sycophants. I will say though that traditional Martial Arts that it is built upon is taught for self defense only. The vast majority of these people will go to great lengths to avoid confrontations.

I'm just speculating...but...I bet even more instances of domestic violence such as this one can be found surrounding Football.

Either way...it is inexcusable.
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