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Athletic Budget
Does anyone have a current number? The most recent one I can find is $46M from two years ago. I would think the conference change...an extra million from the AAC TV deal plus the bball credit/exit fee apportionment would push it north of fifty by itself. Just a guess though.

If it is fiftyish is that enough in current dollars to compete in the changing landscape (assuming constant growth)? Please and Thank You.
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
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$50 million puts you on the low end of the competitive range, but I would think you'd be in the game - for now.

Ole Miss is at the low end of the SEC (which is typically higher than the rest of the leagues) with a $76 million budget this year. That's projected to be closer to $95 million next year when new media revenue streams kick in.

I think for schools like Memphis it's not so much a question about what you can do today in relation to the P5 schools. It's what will you be able to do to keep up after these new media contracts kick in. The fact Memphis sits in the SEC footprint is a double whammy.
08-08-2014 11:52 AM
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(08-08-2014 11:52 AM)Draelius Wrote:  I think for schools like Memphis it's not so much a question about what you can do today in relation to the P5 schools. It's what will you be able to do to keep up after these new media contracts kick in. The fact Memphis sits in the SEC footprint is a double whammy.

Your last statement is what makes this situation worse for us than the AAC in general.

Yes, we are in a conference that is currently competing (although at the bottom of the range) with the big boys, but as the SEC starts recruiting with unlimited funds, we will lose out on some of the kids we have been able to keep currently.

As recruits dwindle, so does program success, as program success dwindles, we lose favor when the next realignment process kicks up.

I just hope any re-alignments happen before all this really has a chance to settle in.
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RE: Athletic Budget
Memphis is in about the best 'G5 position' we could hope to be in. The Big East was the 6th best conference in America, and the AAC is the 6th best conference in America.

We have to focus on the AAC getting that access bowl, and getting more money from ESPN.
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The fact that Memphis sits in the SEC footprint is good if we are smart and continue to do what U of L did.
08-12-2014 08:19 PM
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(08-12-2014 08:19 PM)ChapelHillTiger Wrote:  The fact that Memphis sits in the SEC footprint is good if we are smart and continue to do what U of L did.

May not be easy to do in today's environment but UofL's athletic department moves over the past few years should be a good guideline for our AD.
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(08-08-2014 12:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Memphis is in about the best 'G5 position' we could hope to be in. The Big East was the 6th best conference in America, and the AAC is the 6th best conference in America.

We have to focus on the AAC getting that access bowl, and getting more money from ESPN.

Then we need to do our part and feed wins to the top teams???
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(08-12-2014 08:23 PM)tiger2000 Wrote:  ....... UofL's athletic department moves over the past few years should be a good guideline for our AD.

And UL's enthusiastic fan support is a pretty good guideline for our fans. The ACC took note not only of their home attendance but their impressive record for bowl game travel. Leadership is very important, but the future of Tiger football is in our own hands to a large extent.
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(08-12-2014 10:10 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(08-08-2014 12:01 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  Memphis is in about the best 'G5 position' we could hope to be in. The Big East was the 6th best conference in America, and the AAC is the 6th best conference in America.

We have to focus on the AAC getting that access bowl, and getting more money from ESPN.

Then we need to do our part and feed wins to the top teams???

The team does that on their own...
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Almost every person in Louisville gives money to U of L to benefit the overall community.
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They have to because UofL never gets state funding for anything because the majority of politicians are UK fans and UK gives them free tickets to UK basketball and football. It has created an 'Us against the world" mentality so that's why you see a lot of self funding going on at UofL.
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Not everyone in Louisville gives to the UofL. Lousiville is a divided city between UofL and UK. I've been there a couple of times and it's very obvious.
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(08-14-2014 05:49 AM)TallTiger Wrote:  Not everyone in Louisville gives to the UofL. Lousiville is a divided city between UofL and UK. I've been there a couple of times and it's very obvious.

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Never thought I'd see a UL/UK debate on the Memphis board. So, there hasn't been any chatter about the budget in the last year or so? Looking for something more recent than the 2011/2012 $46M number. Thanks.
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Our situation and Louisville's are not even close. Why we keep comparing to them I don't know. We have way more competition in regards to recruiting in football than Louisville. They've always had an advantage in regards to geography
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(08-14-2014 09:39 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Our situation and Louisville's are not even close. Why we keep comparing to them I don't know. We have way more competition in regards to recruiting in football than Louisville. They've always had an advantage in regards to geography

They get better velour track suits too.
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(08-14-2014 09:36 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Never thought I'd see a UL/UK debate on the Memphis board. So, there hasn't been any chatter about the budget in the last year or so? Looking for something more recent than the 2011/2012 $46M number. Thanks.

2012/2013 budget for Memphis athletics fell to $43m.

You can get data on any school at http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx.
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Sorry, I mistyped. I meant 2012/2013. USAToday has 2012-13 (the last year in CUSA) as $46M.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/s...qtpsj62f1y

If you select Memphis, a year by year comparison is available in chart and graph form. I've looked at the OP ED website as well which shows 2012/2013 at $43M...not sure why there's a $3M discrepancy.

I'm trying to gauge the financial effect of conference change. You'd think some media type would've inquired about it by now...perhaps, not everyone finds the business aspect as interesting as I do.
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I also find the business side very interesting on this but based on what we know, unfortunately Louisville is in a different "league" than us when it comes to financial funding for athletics and winning national sports programs such as their baseball, football, women's and men's basketball programs..

(08-14-2014 11:37 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Sorry, I mistyped. I meant 2012/2013. USAToday has 2012-13 (the last year in CUSA) as $46M.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/s...qtpsj62f1y

If you select Memphis, a year by year comparison is available in chart and graph form. I've looked at the OP ED website as well which shows 2012/2013 at $43M...not sure why there's a $3M discrepancy.

I'm trying to gauge the financial effect of conference change. You'd think some media type would've inquired about it by now...perhaps, not everyone finds the business aspect as interesting as I do.
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(08-14-2014 09:39 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  Our situation and Louisville's are not even close. Why we keep comparing to them I don't know. We have way more competition in regards to recruiting in football than Louisville. They've always had an advantage in regards to geography

Big Ten schools and SEC schools don't recruit the state of Kentucky?

A huge chunk of Louisville's roster is from Florida and Georgia. I'm not certain how they have a geographic advantage recruiting Florida and Georgia.
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