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"Phill Steele Ranks...SBC Last, Compare Our SBC Ranking of 3rd"
http://g5conferencenews.blogspot.com/201...st-g5.html

Phil Steele, the College Football prediction guru, has released his College Football Conference rankings list. Steele lists the G5 conferences in the following order:

1. AAC
2. MWC
3. MAC
4. CONFERENCE USA
5. SUN BELT

Steele's rankings and the G5 Blog rankings are similar only in the first two spots where we both have the AAC and MWC in the 1 and 2 positions. Here are the G5 Blog Conference rankings from two months ago.

1. AAC
2. MWC
3. SUN BELT
4. MAC
5. CONFERENCE USA
( For a more in depth explanation of these rankings click here: G5 NEWS AND ISSUES CONFERENCE RANKINGS


Some disagreed with the G5 Blog and its number 3 ranking of the the Sun Belt . Here is what I wrote about the Sun Belt and its number 3 spot in our list:

3. SUN BELT CONFERENCE : This might come as a surprise to some people, but not to those who follow the Belt closely. The Sunbelt has earned its number 3 rating because of strong football and strong football schools that have been added since realignment. App State and Ga Southern were excellent picks for the Sunbelt. The Sunbelt has more pure football schools in it's conference than the MAC and Conf USA do. What the Sunbelt is missing however, is competitive basketball. Sunbelt basketball should be sued for gross negligence. If I were Commissioner Karl Benson, I would hold an emergency meeting with the conference AD's to discuss the dismal state of Sunbelt basketball. On the other hand, football schools like Ark State, ULL and the new additions of the Sunbelt should keep this conference competitive for many years to come.


I am perplexed as to why Steele ranks the Sun Belt last among the G5 Conferences as his own statements and data seem to contradict his rating of the Belt. Concerning the 2014 Sun Belt Steele writes:
"Last year the Sun Belt went 19-21 in nonconference action, which was the best mark in their history and a better overall record than the Mountain West, C-USA and MAC. "

These comments and data make it clear that the Sun Belt was more competitive than both the MAC and Conference USA last year. Not only did the Sun Belt have the best non conference record last year but one the Belt's best teams, UL , has beaten the likes of ECU, Tulane and San Diego State in the last 3 years.

It's clear that the Sun Belt still has work to do in transforming its brand and image. The Belt will need to continue to win key OOC games as well as games against other G5 schools in order to make believers out of doubters. The good news for Sun Belt fans is that it's leadership has chosen wisely in bringing in football centric schools like App State and Ga Southern to replace the programs that left for Conference USA.

We will revisit our own G5 Conference rankings and Steel's rankings at the end of the season and grade each one in accordance with how close or far away each of us has been. Stay tuned.
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RE: "Phill Steele Ranks...SBC Last, Compare Our SBC Ranking of 3rd"
Here is what he said, which doesn't justify his ranking...

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-footb...e-football

T-9. MAC

Last year, the MAC came within one game of having Northern Illinois make back-to-back BCS bowl appearances. The conference did finish a disappointing 0-5 in bowl games, but on the bright side, they have had a player taken in the first five picks of the NFL draft in each of the past two years. This season the MAC has three teams that appear in my preseason top 50 in Northern Illinois, Toledo and defending champ Bowling Green, but unlike the previous two years, none of these teams look Top 25-caliber.

T-9. Conference USA

C-USA has taken a major hit in conference realignment as they have lost East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and UCF to the American Athletic while adding many former WAC and Sun Belt programs. They have gone just 32-72 in nonconference play the past two years, which is the worst mark of any conference. However, they do boast one of the best non-Power Five conference teams in the country this year as Marshall comes in at No. 19 in my preseason poll and has a great chance at going 12-0.

11. Sun Belt

Last year the Sun Belt went 19-21 in nonconference action, which was the best mark in their history and a better overall record than the Mountain West, C-USA and MAC. They also have gone 4-2 in bowl games the past two years as Louisiana has won three straight New Orleans Bowls. This year the Ragin' Cajuns are the class of the league and are attempting to win at least nine games for the fourth consecutive season.
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RE: "Phill Steele Ranks...SBC Last, Compare Our SBC Ranking of 3rd"
(06-29-2014 04:40 PM)RamblinRedWolf44 Wrote:  http://g5conferencenews.blogspot.com/201...st-g5.html

Phil Steele, the College Football prediction guru, has released his College Football Conference rankings list. Steele lists the G5 conferences in the following order:

1. AAC
2. MWC
3. MAC
4. CONFERENCE USA
5. SUN BELT

Steele's rankings and the G5 Blog rankings are similar only in the first two spots where we both have the AAC and MWC in the 1 and 2 positions. Here are the G5 Blog Conference rankings from two months ago.

1. AAC
2. MWC
3. SUN BELT
4. MAC
5. CONFERENCE USA
( For a more in depth explanation of these rankings click here: G5 NEWS AND ISSUES CONFERENCE RANKINGS


Some disagreed with the G5 Blog and its number 3 ranking of the the Sun Belt . Here is what I wrote about the Sun Belt and its number 3 spot in our list:

3. SUN BELT CONFERENCE : This might come as a surprise to some people, but not to those who follow the Belt closely. The Sunbelt has earned its number 3 rating because of strong football and strong football schools that have been added since realignment. App State and Ga Southern were excellent picks for the Sunbelt. The Sunbelt has more pure football schools in it's conference than the MAC and Conf USA do. What the Sunbelt is missing however, is competitive basketball. Sunbelt basketball should be sued for gross negligence. If I were Commissioner Karl Benson, I would hold an emergency meeting with the conference AD's to discuss the dismal state of Sunbelt basketball. On the other hand, football schools like Ark State, ULL and the new additions of the Sunbelt should keep this conference competitive for many years to come.


I am perplexed as to why Steele ranks the Sun Belt last among the G5 Conferences as his own statements and data seem to contradict his rating of the Belt. Concerning the 2014 Sun Belt Steele writes:
"Last year the Sun Belt went 19-21 in nonconference action, which was the best mark in their history and a better overall record than the Mountain West, C-USA and MAC. "

These comments and data make it clear that the Sun Belt was more competitive than both the MAC and Conference USA last year. Not only did the Sun Belt have the best non conference record last year but one the Belt's best teams, UL , has beaten the likes of ECU, Tulane and San Diego State in the last 3 years.

It's clear that the Sun Belt still has work to do in transforming its brand and image. The Belt will need to continue to win key OOC games as well as games against other G5 schools in order to make believers out of doubters. The good news for Sun Belt fans is that it's leadership has chosen wisely in bringing in football centric schools like App State and Ga Southern to replace the programs that left for Conference USA.

We will revisit our own G5 Conference rankings and Steel's rankings at the end of the season and grade each one in accordance with how close or far away each of us has been. Stay tuned.


We have to keep winning OOC games and winning will eventually make believers out of everyone.
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RE: "Phill Steele Ranks...SBC Last, Compare Our SBC Ranking of 3rd"
I just like throwing this one in there too...

http://www.colleyrankings.com/foot2013/r...onf17.html
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RE: "Phill Steele Ranks...SBC Last, Compare Our SBC Ranking of 3rd"
(06-29-2014 04:53 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  I just like throwing this one in there too...

http://www.colleyrankings.com/foot2013/r...onf17.html

Got to watch what they are showing though. Too many misplaced team results, particularly the further in the list that you go.
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RE: "Phill Steele Ranks...SBC Last, Compare Our SBC Ranking of 3rd"
(06-29-2014 04:50 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote:  Here is what he said, which doesn't justify his ranking...

http://insider.espn.go.com/college-footb...e-football

T-9. MAC

Last year, the MAC came within one game of having Northern Illinois make back-to-back BCS bowl appearances. The conference did finish a disappointing 0-5 in bowl games, but on the bright side, they have had a player taken in the first five picks of the NFL draft in each of the past two years. This season the MAC has three teams that appear in my preseason top 50 in Northern Illinois, Toledo and defending champ Bowling Green, but unlike the previous two years, none of these teams look Top 25-caliber.

T-9. Conference USA

C-USA has taken a major hit in conference realignment as they have lost East Carolina, Houston, Memphis, SMU, Tulane, Tulsa and UCF to the American Athletic while adding many former WAC and Sun Belt programs. They have gone just 32-72 in nonconference play the past two years, which is the worst mark of any conference. However, they do boast one of the best non-Power Five conference teams in the country this year as Marshall comes in at No. 19 in my preseason poll and has a great chance at going 12-0.

11. Sun Belt

Last year the Sun Belt went 19-21 in nonconference action, which was the best mark in their history and a better overall record than the Mountain West, C-USA and MAC. They also have gone 4-2 in bowl games the past two years as Louisiana has won three straight New Orleans Bowls. This year the Ragin' Cajuns are the class of the league and are attempting to win at least nine games for the fourth consecutive season.
Three straight championships and 2 of those 4 bowl wins but we don't warrant mention. Par for the course for Steele.
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RE: "Phill Steele Ranks...SBC Last, Compare Our SBC Ranking of 3rd"
Steele's previews are usually well researched on the Sun Belt. :)

2010 Only GamePlan was worse
2011 was 10th best for Sun Belt beating out Sporting News, College Football Poll, and Rogers Poll
2012 was 19th best for Sun Belt beating out McIllece and College Football Poll
2013 was a good year tying three others for 3rd best, McIllece was best compughterratings.com was second.
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Steele pays no attention to the SBC. Its a garbage preview.
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Steele is a hack.
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