Saw this which I love...
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bask...commentary

Really like how Adam Silver just seems to get it. maybe more than any other commish in sports today.

So far the biggest developments are: Embiid getting hurt and thus throwing a wrench into the lottery. And Dario Saric deciding to stay in Europe for at least another two seasons.

As for who I'd like to see the Thunder select (they have the 21st and 29th picks):
Adreian Payne: We desperately need a stretch 4 to open things up and his size and shooting fir the bill. He also played under Tom Izzo which means he has a high basketball IQ, and we all know how that's worked out for the Warriors and Draymond Green.

Kyle Anderson: Not athletic and not a great shooter, but great size with great mobility and ballhandling skills for that size. IMO Boris Diaw was the real MVP of the WCF and the Finals, and I think Kyle Anderson can pose those same matchup problems.

Rodney Hood: His size and scoring ability are both good fits for a Thunder bench that could use some punch.

Dario Saric: Obviously I've never seen him play, but he's supposedly an extremely cerebral player, with good size and an ability to create interesting mismatches as a part of a variety of lineups.

(06-25-2014 05:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  As for who I'd like to see the Thunder select (they have the 21st and 29th picks):
Adreian Payne: We desperately need a stretch 4 to open things up and his size and shooting fir the bill. He also played under Tom Izzo which means he has a high basketball IQ, and we all know how that's worked out for the Warriors and Draymond Green.

Kyle Anderson: Not athletic and not a great shooter, but great size with great mobility and ballhandling skills for that size. IMO Boris Diaw was the real MVP of the WCF and the Finals, and I think Kyle Anderson can pose those same matchup problems.

Rodney Hood: His size and scoring ability are both good fits for a Thunder bench that could use some punch.

Dario Saric: Obviously I've never seen him play, but he's supposedly an extremely cerebral player, with good size and an ability to create interesting mismatches as a part of a variety of lineups.

Not trying to ruin your parade but I think Payne, Hood, and Saric will all be gone by 21.

Embiid might be available. A lot of teams could be scared off by his recent injuries.

(06-26-2014 10:03 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Embiid might be available. A lot of teams could be scared off by his recent injuries.

doubt it- at some point- he's going to get too good to pass up, even with the injuries....

Note the key word MIGHT.

in the 3 mock drafts on CBS- they have him going no later than #7. ESPN has him going #5. So- he's not even going to be getting out of the top half of the lottery- let alone getting down to 21.

I remember all kinds of mock drafts being wrong about one player or another. You have to remember, they're trying to predict the thought processes of numerous people. That's like trying to predict who's going to get killed by which volcano, years before the volcano erupts. A person's thought process is often difficult to pin down, even when you know the people very well. They may not value what you think they do.

I do tend to think he'll be gone by then. But you just never know until after the fact.

one thing to remember- 2 of the teams that have mock drafts taking him- Boston and Orlando- also have 2nd 1st rd picks before OKC at 21. Also would start to see some teams with picks in the 20's maybe starting to try to trade up to pick him up...

Guess for me bottom line- a guy like him- who many had going #1- isn't going to drop all that far despite the injury. It'd be stunning to see him going at 10 even.

(06-26-2014 09:09 AM)nbcards Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 05:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  As for who I'd like to see the Thunder select (they have the 21st and 29th picks):
Adreian Payne: We desperately need a stretch 4 to open things up and his size and shooting fir the bill. He also played under Tom Izzo which means he has a high basketball IQ, and we all know how that's worked out for the Warriors and Draymond Green.

Kyle Anderson: Not athletic and not a great shooter, but great size with great mobility and ballhandling skills for that size. IMO Boris Diaw was the real MVP of the WCF and the Finals, and I think Kyle Anderson can pose those same matchup problems.

Rodney Hood: His size and scoring ability are both good fits for a Thunder bench that could use some punch.

Dario Saric: Obviously I've never seen him play, but he's supposedly an extremely cerebral player, with good size and an ability to create interesting mismatches as a part of a variety of lineups.

Not trying to ruin your parade but I think Payne, Hood, and Saric will all be gone by 21.

I think you're probably right, although of those 3 Saric is the one most likely to be available. Most teams in the top 20 will not want to select a draft and stash player with so many quality players available.

Also, I could see the Thunder trading up to around 16 or 17

(06-26-2014 02:11 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 09:09 AM)nbcards Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 05:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  As for who I'd like to see the Thunder select (they have the 21st and 29th picks):
Adreian Payne: We desperately need a stretch 4 to open things up and his size and shooting fir the bill. He also played under Tom Izzo which means he has a high basketball IQ, and we all know how that's worked out for the Warriors and Draymond Green.

Kyle Anderson: Not athletic and not a great shooter, but great size with great mobility and ballhandling skills for that size. IMO Boris Diaw was the real MVP of the WCF and the Finals, and I think Kyle Anderson can pose those same matchup problems.

Rodney Hood: His size and scoring ability are both good fits for a Thunder bench that could use some punch.

Dario Saric: Obviously I've never seen him play, but he's supposedly an extremely cerebral player, with good size and an ability to create interesting mismatches as a part of a variety of lineups.

Not trying to ruin your parade but I think Payne, Hood, and Saric will all be gone by 21.

I think you're probably right, although of those 3 Saric is the one most likely to be available. Most teams in the top 20 will not want to select a draft and stash player with so many quality players available.

Also, I could see the Thunder trading up to around 16 or 17

I agree that Saric is the most likely to fall, I am very interested to see what the Chicago Bulls do and see if they keep both picks then they might draft and stash Saric like Mirotic or trade both picks to move up and get Staukas or Harris

(06-26-2014 05:03 PM)nbcards Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 02:11 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 09:09 AM)nbcards Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 05:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  As for who I'd like to see the Thunder select (they have the 21st and 29th picks):
Adreian Payne: We desperately need a stretch 4 to open things up and his size and shooting fir the bill. He also played under Tom Izzo which means he has a high basketball IQ, and we all know how that's worked out for the Warriors and Draymond Green.

Kyle Anderson: Not athletic and not a great shooter, but great size with great mobility and ballhandling skills for that size. IMO Boris Diaw was the real MVP of the WCF and the Finals, and I think Kyle Anderson can pose those same matchup problems.

Rodney Hood: His size and scoring ability are both good fits for a Thunder bench that could use some punch.

Dario Saric: Obviously I've never seen him play, but he's supposedly an extremely cerebral player, with good size and an ability to create interesting mismatches as a part of a variety of lineups.

Not trying to ruin your parade but I think Payne, Hood, and Saric will all be gone by 21.

I think you're probably right, although of those 3 Saric is the one most likely to be available. Most teams in the top 20 will not want to select a draft and stash player with so many quality players available.

Also, I could see the Thunder trading up to around 16 or 17

I agree that Saric is the most likely to fall, I am very interested to see what the Chicago Bulls do and see if they keep both picks then they might draft and stash Saric like Mirotic or trade both picks to move up and get Staukas or Harris

Obviously the Bulls could desperately use a guy like Stauskas. Year after year their shooting woes make that offense painful to watch. If it hadn't been for Noah and his incredible passing ability, they wouldn't have even had an offense.

(06-26-2014 05:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 05:03 PM)nbcards Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 02:11 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 09:09 AM)nbcards Wrote:  

(06-25-2014 05:15 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  As for who I'd like to see the Thunder select (they have the 21st and 29th picks):
Adreian Payne: We desperately need a stretch 4 to open things up and his size and shooting fir the bill. He also played under Tom Izzo which means he has a high basketball IQ, and we all know how that's worked out for the Warriors and Draymond Green.

Kyle Anderson: Not athletic and not a great shooter, but great size with great mobility and ballhandling skills for that size. IMO Boris Diaw was the real MVP of the WCF and the Finals, and I think Kyle Anderson can pose those same matchup problems.

Rodney Hood: His size and scoring ability are both good fits for a Thunder bench that could use some punch.

Dario Saric: Obviously I've never seen him play, but he's supposedly an extremely cerebral player, with good size and an ability to create interesting mismatches as a part of a variety of lineups.

Not trying to ruin your parade but I think Payne, Hood, and Saric will all be gone by 21.

I think you're probably right, although of those 3 Saric is the one most likely to be available. Most teams in the top 20 will not want to select a draft and stash player with so many quality players available.

Also, I could see the Thunder trading up to around 16 or 17

I agree that Saric is the most likely to fall, I am very interested to see what the Chicago Bulls do and see if they keep both picks then they might draft and stash Saric like Mirotic or trade both picks to move up and get Staukas or Harris

Obviously the Bulls could desperately use a guy like Stauskas. Year after year their shooting woes make that offense painful to watch. If it hadn't been for Noah and his incredible passing ability, they wouldn't have even had an offense.

Yea it has been frustrating as a Bulls fan watching us play great defense but lose because they can't score 80 points.

I pity Andrew Wiggins, going to Cleveland. There's a franchise that's a black hole for the talented.

Saric goes to the Magic at #12. I'm surprised the Magic, a team that's been rebuilding ever since Howard left, would go the draft-and-stash route

(06-26-2014 07:54 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Saric goes to the Magic at #12. I'm surprised the Magic, a team that's been rebuilding ever since Howard left, would go the draft-and-stash route

They sent him over to Philly to draft and stash and got that guard from UL-Lafayette instead.

I think both the Magic and Cavs may be closer to competing in the East than many give them credit for.

(06-26-2014 11:48 PM)All Dukes_All Day Wrote:  

(06-26-2014 07:54 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Saric goes to the Magic at #12. I'm surprised the Magic, a team that's been rebuilding ever since Howard left, would go the draft-and-stash route

They sent him over to Philly to draft and stash and got that guard from UL-Lafayette instead.

I think both the Magic and Cavs may be closer to competing in the East than many give them credit for.

well now they are. I disliked the Saric pick, but Payton is far more useful to a team that is in desperate need of a PG. Now they need some development from Harkless, Harris and Nicholson. Don't forget, they lost Afflalo who was by far their best offensive player (at least of the perimeter variety)

(06-24-2014 09:02 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Saw this which I love...
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bask...commentary

Really like how Adam Silver just seems to get it. maybe more than any other commish in sports today.

going back to the original post- the way this was done was just outstanding. Like I said- Silver just seems to get it more than any of the other commish's.

and love the tweet from Kevin Durant:
Adam silver is such a classy man! That's love right there. I'm emotional for him. Damn I love that

- Kevin Durant (@KDTrey5) June 27, 2014

Now- could you imagine ANY NFL player tweeting that about Roger Goodell? MLB player about Bud Selig? I sure can't.

(06-27-2014 08:18 AM)stever20 Wrote:  

(06-24-2014 09:02 PM)stever20 Wrote:  Saw this which I love...
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bask...commentary

Really like how Adam Silver just seems to get it. maybe more than any other commish in sports today.

going back to the original post- the way this was done was just outstanding. Like I said- Silver just seems to get it more than any of the other commish's.

and love the tweet from Kevin Durant:
Adam silver is such a classy man! That's love right there. I'm emotional for him. Damn I love that

- Kevin Durant (@KDTrey5) June 27, 2014

Now- could you imagine ANY NFL player tweeting that about Roger Goodell? MLB player about Bud Selig? I sure can't.

Roger Goodell = Emperor Palatine
Bud Selig = your adorable 90 year old grandpa