Nobody really stick out to me. I would have liked to have had Hillary 8 years ago over Obama, but I'm not so sure I'd vote for her today. Nobody else looks attractive for the Dems.

I don't really know a lot about those on the right, but as long as they run someone that isn't running on a platform that largely focuses on social issues, I can get on board with them. I voted for McCain in 08 (although Palin made that kinda hard) and would vote R again for the right person.

(06-19-2014 09:08 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Do you people really trust Senor Cruz to close the border to all of his hispanic brothers and sisters? After all, he snuck into America thru Canada. Are you certain he's American? and what kind of person would give up their birth right just for political gain?

I thought Cruz was one of those "White" Hispanics?

(06-19-2014 09:08 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Do you people really trust Senor Cruz to close the border to all of his hispanic brothers and sisters? After all, he snuck into America thru Canada. Are you certain he's American? and what kind of person would give up their birth right just for political gain?

Yes, I think he will shut them off because his agenda is different than the current agenda. And if he WAS from Canada I wouldn't care, at least it's North America still.

Dems are looking at a Killary /Kerry ticket.

(06-19-2014 09:14 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 09:07 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I always thought you were a closet perv. Here is the proof

I'll always be a "closet perv" when it comes to pus$y, who isn't? Besides gaywads...

OK, I'm gonna try to come back to being an adult now. Hope you can come along.

(06-19-2014 09:15 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 09:08 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Do you people really trust Senor Cruz to close the border to all of his hispanic brothers and sisters? After all, he snuck into America thru Canada. Are you certain he's American? and what kind of person would give up their birth right just for political gain?

I thought Cruz was one of those "White" Hispanics?

He's only white when he messes up...

I'm sure when it's all said and done, people will say obama was really just a white president.

(06-19-2014 09:18 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 09:14 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 09:07 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  I always thought you were a closet perv. Here is the proof

I'll always be a "closet perv" when it comes to pus$y, who isn't? Besides gaywads...

OK, I'm gonna try to come back to being an adult now. Hope you can come along.

Ugh. Fine.

(06-19-2014 07:46 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Rand Paul is basically an isolationist and the next President is going to need to repair the nation's standing as a power. On the other hand, I'd certainly prefer to have a doctor trying to straighten out the mess that Obamacare is going to create as well as the VA.

There's a difference between isolationism and non-interventionism.

It's really sad that that it's so hard to come up with 2 names who would even have the remotest chance of winning. I know many people in my personal life who are smart enough and honest enough for the job but at the same time are way too smart to submit themselves to the process. But if I had a gun to my head I would pick Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker. He certainly has the courage of his convictions and has managed to survive quite a trial of fire.

(06-18-2014 11:07 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  

(06-18-2014 11:04 PM)Claw Wrote:  Cruz isn't eligible. Paul is too soft on immigration. Rubio has the same problem.

I will never, ever vote for Christie.

I will not vote for another Bush or Clinton.

Maybe Ben Carson or Walker. Palin even.

I could easily support Carson. A Walker/Carson ticket would be great for me.

what are carson's qualifications for the job, exactly?

(06-19-2014 09:41 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 07:46 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Rand Paul is basically an isolationist and the next President is going to need to repair the nation's standing as a power. On the other hand, I'd certainly prefer to have a doctor trying to straighten out the mess that Obamacare is going to create as well as the VA.

There's a difference between isolationism and non-interventionism.

probably not. not when the rubber meets the road, anyway. but we don't know, because we have never seen a libertarian foreign policy in practice. it's "vapor policy". it has never existed, but it's proponents assure us that it's totally awesome.

I'm sure we can trust them.

Paul and Walker

(06-18-2014 10:20 PM)john01992 Wrote:  kerry seems like the best bet IMO but that is more a "he wins by default" rather than my actually liking him.

That is the most tepid endorsement I've seen in a long while. But still -- I don't think John Kerry has gotten anybody's endorsement, tepid or not, since 2004.

(06-18-2014 10:49 PM)EagleX Wrote:  totally agree that kerry may still have his eye on the office. Losing the presidency by 130k in Ohio in 2004 has still got to be a serious weed up his a$$.

Thank God for those 130k voters in Ohio.

(06-19-2014 09:15 AM)DragonLair Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 09:08 AM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Do you people really trust Senor Cruz to close the border to all of his hispanic brothers and sisters? After all, he snuck into America thru Canada. Are you certain he's American? and what kind of person would give up their birth right just for political gain?

I thought Cruz was one of those "White" Hispanics?

To liberals, he is.

(06-19-2014 09:41 AM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(06-19-2014 07:46 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  Rand Paul is basically an isolationist and the next President is going to need to repair the nation's standing as a power. On the other hand, I'd certainly prefer to have a doctor trying to straighten out the mess that Obamacare is going to create as well as the VA.

There's a difference between isolationism and non-interventionism.

Not really. Economic sanctions and humanitarian relief are just as interventionist as deploying troops abroad.

okay... here go my top.. ever how many i can think of.

1) Scott Walker - the man may not have a university degree, but he's shown he can turn around a financial situation.
2) Bobby jindal - probably the brightest of the lot available. problem is i see the Democrats trying to run over him with the 'indian' label.
3) Jeff Sessions (but he's shown no desire to run, unfortunately, but if he did.. he'd go Right to the top of the list.)
3) Ted Cruz - (again, if he's eligible)
4) John Kasich
6) Rick Perry
7) Marco Rubio - He fell WAY down my list after his support for amnesty and some of his pro-common core statements.
8) Mitt Romney - Yes, i'll put him back on this list, as I still think he's a qualified candidate.
9) Susan Martinez - but would be a much better choice as a VP candidate
10) Chris Christie - Would probably do well among moderates, don't know how he'd match up as 'blue state' governor (same issue Romney has). Not really high on my pecking order.

my dark horse to actually run this year would be Mitch Daniels. I know he backed out last time citing his family. Would he do the same a second time?

Jim Demint would be another that's high on my list if he were to show interest.
Rob Portman would be one who could sneak into my list...

As much as i like what Ben Carson has to say, I don't see him as an effective political leader. he's a brilliant man, a great surgeon, but a Presidential candidate? Nope...

(06-19-2014 10:39 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  okay... here go my top.. ever how many i can think of.

1) Scott Walker - the man may not have a university degree, but he's shown he can turn around a financial situation.
2) Bobby jindal - probably the brightest of the lot available. problem is i see the Democrats trying to run over him with the 'indian' label.
3) Jeff Sessions (but he's shown no desire to run, unfortunately, but if he did.. he'd go Right to the top of the list.)
3) Ted Cruz - (again, if he's eligible)
4) John Kasich
6) Rick Perry
7) Marco Rubio - He fell WAY down my list after his support for amnesty and some of his pro-common core statements.
8) Mitt Romney - Yes, i'll put him back on this list, as I still think he's a qualified candidate.
9) Susan Martinez - but would be a much better choice as a VP candidate
10) Chris Christie - Would probably do well among moderates, don't know how he'd match up as 'blue state' governor (same issue Romney has). Not really high on my pecking order.

my dark horse to actually run this year would be Mitch Daniels. I know he backed out last time citing his family. Would he do the same a second time?

Jim Demint would be another that's high on my list if he were to show interest.
Rob Portman would be one who could sneak into my list...

As much as i like what Ben Carson has to say, I don't see him as an effective political leader. he's a brilliant man, a great surgeon, but a Presidential candidate? Nope...

Ahh nevermind, Christie is my choice.

Hillary Clinton (Prez) - Mark Warner (VP)

vs

Rand Paul (Prez) - Ted Cruz (VP)

Hillary wins...just a REALLY early guess.

Colbert/ Stewart