Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
Wyoming AD seems to think not everyone in the Mountain West will do “full cost of attendance” http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/w...190c0.html …

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
AAC meetings start tonight. Aresco has said every school in that league will do COA, but we’ll see. That could be a big dividing line.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
If we get into a situation where some schools do and some school’s don’t within a given league, that will be really interesting.

(05-27-2014 10:49 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
Wyoming AD seems to think not everyone in the Mountain West will do “full cost of attendance” http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/w...190c0.html …

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
AAC meetings start tonight. Aresco has said every school in that league will do COA, but we’ll see. That could be a big dividing line.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
If we get into a situation where some schools do and some school’s don’t within a given league, that will be really interesting.

The interesting part will be the relative performance comparison between programs in the same league among those that do & don't.

I am glad AAC schools have the capacity to pay full COA, but it will have a terrible effect overall on college football. The gap between the have and have nots widens and I fear some schools will drop out of the race and thus reduce scholarships.

(05-27-2014 11:21 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am glad AAC schools have the capacity to pay full COA, but it will have a terrible effect overall on college football. The gap between the have and have nots widens and I fear some schools will drop out of the race and thus reduce scholarships.

I agree. Nothing good will come of this for non P5 conferences. The SEC and Big 10 are getting exactly what they want. To stomp the little guys into submission so they keep all of the money. The other 3 conferences are just along for the ride.

There will come a day in the not too distant future when college sports will be something I used to enjoy.

(05-27-2014 10:49 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
Wyoming AD seems to think not everyone in the Mountain West will do “full cost of attendance” http://trib.com/sports/college/wyoming/w...190c0.html …

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
AAC meetings start tonight. Aresco has said every school in that league will do COA, but we’ll see. That could be a big dividing line.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken
If we get into a situation where some schools do and some school’s don’t within a given league, that will be really interesting.

If this is true and no other conferences can or are willing ... what's to prevent the AAC from moving away from the rest of the G5 and, with time, closer to the P5?

(05-27-2014 11:21 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am glad AAC schools have the capacity to pay full COA, but it will have a terrible effect overall on college football. The gap between the have and have nots widens and I fear some schools will drop out of the race and thus reduce scholarships.

Well the P5 schools get the best players already without 'COA help.' I see the separation you fear only with the 'haves and have nots' of the G5 World --- lets hope Aresco's statement regarding the AAC and the COA is a true one.

To me, it seems that of the newest schools (Tulane, Tulsa, ECU) that a commitment to support COA should have been part of joining the AAC.

I believe that ECU would be on board; Tulane and Tulsa I'm not so sure.

Lastly, and not trying to stir the realignment discussions again, but I wonder if COA becomes a dividing line that drives a change between AAC/MWC members...

(05-27-2014 12:46 PM)Merrick Wrote:  To me, it seems that of the newest schools (Tulane, Tulsa, ECU) that a commitment to support COA should have been part of joining the AAC.

I believe that ECU would be on board; Tulane and Tulsa I'm not so sure.

Lastly, and not trying to stir the realignment discussions again, but I wonder if COA becomes a dividing line that drives a change between AAC/MWC members...

... and creates the possibility of a new conference made up of those schools. Stronger conference mates means your conference dominates the 6th access bowl w/ the difference in conference SOS.

Another example of the tail wagging the dog that needs to be addressed

(05-27-2014 11:54 AM)southpaw1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:21 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I am glad AAC schools have the capacity to pay full COA, but it will have a terrible effect overall on college football. The gap between the have and have nots widens and I fear some schools will drop out of the race and thus reduce scholarships.

I agree. Nothing good will come of this for non P5 conferences. The SEC and Big 10 are getting exactly what they want. To stomp the little guys into submission so they keep all of the money. The other 3 conferences are just along for the ride.

There will come a day in the not too distant future when college sports will be something I used to enjoy.

It has already arrived. The cheating is totally out of hand. Corruption is rampant. See the NCAA's lack of punishment for UNC. No lack of institutional control for them.

(05-27-2014 12:46 PM)Merrick Wrote:  To me, it seems that of the newest schools (Tulane, Tulsa, ECU) that a commitment to support COA should have been part of joining the AAC.

I believe that ECU would be on board; Tulane and Tulsa I'm not so sure.

Lastly, and not trying to stir the realignment discussions again, but I wonder if COA becomes a dividing line that drives a change between AAC/MWC members...

Whatever is best for Memphis. If a best of the rest AAC/MWC hybrid would do it, then I'd be down.

I like the AAC, but if we've learned anything, we have to do whatever is best for our individual member institution.

"Aresco has said every school in that league will do COA"

There you have it...

(05-27-2014 09:29 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  "Aresco has said every school in that league will do COA"

There you have it...

Sure but if 'Aresco history' teaches us anything --- it's you have to be careful with 'Aresco quotes.' It might be that "COA" at one school includes only a certain sport while at others it's all inclusive.

How does all that compare with the NCAA's own criteria for D1:

The NCAA is putting the final touches on it’s official D1 membership criteria. TheD1 Leadership Council’s recommendations include:

A five-year “reclassification” process for new members following no less than five years of membership in Division II.

New members must have a bona fide offer of membership from a multisport, voting Division I conference.

An application fee, the nature of which has yet to be determined. A requirement to meet Division I sport-sponsorship and financial aid requirements upon beginning the reclassification process.

A stipulation that institutions subject to historically based Academic Progress Rate penalties will not be elected to active membership.

A policy that new active members of Division I should not qualify to receive revenue distributions related to sport sponsorship, grants-in-aid, academic enhancement or Special Assistance/Student-Athlete Opportunity Funds for three calendar years after election to membership. After the 2010-11 academic year, a discontinuation of the multidivisional practice that permits Divisions II or III institutions to designate one men’s and one women’s sport in Division I, except in sports that do not have a Division II championship.

Institutions that currently “play up” could continue to do so, but would forfeit the opportunity permanently if the school failed to conduct the sport in Division I in any ensuing academic year.

Eliminate the designations of “core” and “continuity” for Division I institutions and create a more meaningful definition of a multisport conference, including a minimum number of active members, minimum sport sponsorship, officiating and compliance program rules.

Administration Cabinet recommendation of active membership to the Board of Directors instead of the Leadership Council.

I found this interesting:

Football — D-I football programs are divided into FBS and FCS. The 128 FBS programs can award financial aid to as many as 85 players, with each player able to receive up to a full scholarship. The 124 FCS programs can award up to the equivalent of 63 full scholarships, divided among no more than 85 individuals. Some FCS conferences restrict scholarships to a lower level or prohibit scholarships altogether.

According to this, and knowing that we are allowed 85 scholarships, we are FBS. We are in. They can sub categorize it all they want, we meet the criteria.