(05-27-2014 10:54 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:52 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 02:00 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  With all he had going for him it's puzzling that he couldn't get a girl. Heck man, I've seen some guys that look like Neanderthals with girlfriends, wives and kids. He must have been a total loser that didn't know how to treat women.

He's was probably like the Russian that told the girl in the bar, "hello, my name is Viktor, enough of this courtship let's ****!

I doubt it, even that can get a man laid. He was just a douche that most likely demanded attention.

maybe his mother didn't breastfeed him.

Or breastfeed him long enough. He may have been one of those weirdos that wanted to be breastfed until he was around 4 or 5 years old. Knew a kid like that, his parents were friends with my parents, and he breastfed until he was 5. Everybody called him Booby.

(05-26-2014 03:33 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:29 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 02:02 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 02:00 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  With all he had going for him it's puzzling that he couldn't get a girl. Heck man, I've seen some guys that look like Neanderthals with girlfriends, wives and kids. He must have been a total loser that didn't know how to treat women.

He's was probably like the Russian that told the girl in the bar, "hello, my name is Viktor, enough of this courtship let's ****!

I'm guessing he was a total dick.

He posted a bunch of videos on YouTube and bodybuilding.com in the lead up to the shooting. The guy was clearly a sociopath judging by those alone.


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he belonged in an institution. we don't need better gun control laws. we need lunatic control laws.

hundreds of people would be alive today -- including all those kids in sandy hook -- if this country had the courage to deal with its dangerously unstable citizens.

Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

(05-27-2014 11:00 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:33 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:29 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 02:02 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 02:00 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  With all he had going for him it's puzzling that he couldn't get a girl. Heck man, I've seen some guys that look like Neanderthals with girlfriends, wives and kids. He must have been a total loser that didn't know how to treat women.

He's was probably like the Russian that told the girl in the bar, "hello, my name is Viktor, enough of this courtship let's ****!

I'm guessing he was a total dick.

He posted a bunch of videos on YouTube and bodybuilding.com in the lead up to the shooting. The guy was clearly a sociopath judging by those alone.


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he belonged in an institution. we don't need better gun control laws. we need lunatic control laws.

hundreds of people would be alive today -- including all those kids in sandy hook -- if this country had the courage to deal with its dangerously unstable citizens.

Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

Yeah but without a prior offense or situation like this, how do you know if he belongs in an institution? If we start locking people like this up, there will immediately be someone claiming that they're wrongfully locked up. He definitely should have been watched though, with videos like that out. I mean, he was never determined as mentally unstable, right?

(05-27-2014 11:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:00 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:33 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:29 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 02:02 PM)EagleX Wrote:  I'm guessing he was a total dick.

He posted a bunch of videos on YouTube and bodybuilding.com in the lead up to the shooting. The guy was clearly a sociopath judging by those alone.


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he belonged in an institution. we don't need better gun control laws. we need lunatic control laws.

hundreds of people would be alive today -- including all those kids in sandy hook -- if this country had the courage to deal with its dangerously unstable citizens.

Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

Yeah but without a prior offense or situation like this, how do you know if he belongs in an institution? If we start locking people like this up, there will immediately be someone claiming that they're wrongfully locked up. He definitely should have been watched though, with videos like that out. I mean, he was never determined as mentally unstable, right?

You don't have to lock these people up but their should be something in place that keep these kind of people away from guns.

'No free person should be denied their right to a firearm'

(05-27-2014 11:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  'No free person should be denied their right to a firearm'

Where is that quote from?

(05-27-2014 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:00 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:33 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:29 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  He posted a bunch of videos on YouTube and bodybuilding.com in the lead up to the shooting. The guy was clearly a sociopath judging by those alone.


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he belonged in an institution. we don't need better gun control laws. we need lunatic control laws.

hundreds of people would be alive today -- including all those kids in sandy hook -- if this country had the courage to deal with its dangerously unstable citizens.

Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

Yeah but without a prior offense or situation like this, how do you know if he belongs in an institution? If we start locking people like this up, there will immediately be someone claiming that they're wrongfully locked up. He definitely should have been watched though, with videos like that out. I mean, he was never determined as mentally unstable, right?

You don't have to lock these people up but their should be something in place that keep these kind of people away from guns.

But how would you know?

(05-27-2014 11:40 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:00 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 03:33 PM)EagleX Wrote:  he belonged in an institution. we don't need better gun control laws. we need lunatic control laws.

hundreds of people would be alive today -- including all those kids in sandy hook -- if this country had the courage to deal with its dangerously unstable citizens.

Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

Yeah but without a prior offense or situation like this, how do you know if he belongs in an institution? If we start locking people like this up, there will immediately be someone claiming that they're wrongfully locked up. He definitely should have been watched though, with videos like that out. I mean, he was never determined as mentally unstable, right?

You don't have to lock these people up but their should be something in place that keep these kind of people away from guns.

But how would you know?

Wouldn't a background check of someone's medical records reveal if they were seeing someone for anger issues of something like that?

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:40 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:00 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

Yeah but without a prior offense or situation like this, how do you know if he belongs in an institution? If we start locking people like this up, there will immediately be someone claiming that they're wrongfully locked up. He definitely should have been watched though, with videos like that out. I mean, he was never determined as mentally unstable, right?

You don't have to lock these people up but their should be something in place that keep these kind of people away from guns.

But how would you know?

Wouldn't a background check of someone's medical records reveal if they were seeing someone for anger issues of something like that?

Just like a lefter willing to do away with Physician–patient privilege.

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:40 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:00 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

Yeah but without a prior offense or situation like this, how do you know if he belongs in an institution? If we start locking people like this up, there will immediately be someone claiming that they're wrongfully locked up. He definitely should have been watched though, with videos like that out. I mean, he was never determined as mentally unstable, right?

You don't have to lock these people up but their should be something in place that keep these kind of people away from guns.

But how would you know?

Wouldn't a background check of someone's medical records reveal if they were seeing someone for anger issues of something like that?

So going to a shrink should be a surrender of rights?

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:40 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:08 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:05 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:00 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Yes - we have gone way to far to allowing mentally unstable people to roam the streets - have access to many things they shouldn't - cars, any type of weapon, etc.

Yeah but without a prior offense or situation like this, how do you know if he belongs in an institution? If we start locking people like this up, there will immediately be someone claiming that they're wrongfully locked up. He definitely should have been watched though, with videos like that out. I mean, he was never determined as mentally unstable, right?

You don't have to lock these people up but their should be something in place that keep these kind of people away from guns.

But how would you know?

Wouldn't a background check of someone's medical records reveal if they were seeing someone for anger issues of something like that?

You would think so.

(05-27-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  'No free person should be denied their right to a firearm'

Where is that quote from?

It's a paraphrase of a Tom Jeff quote.

Still, you can't take from people on the basis they may be mentally unstable. The end result is crazy people won't seek help. That's a well established principle.

(05-27-2014 12:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  'No free person should be denied their right to a firearm'

Where is that quote from?

It's a paraphrase of a Tom Jeff quote.

Still, you can't take from people on the basis they may be mentally unstable. The end result is crazy people won't seek help. That's a well established principle.

People with mental issues are already denied firearms.


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(05-27-2014 01:07 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  'No free person should be denied their right to a firearm'

Where is that quote from?

It's a paraphrase of a Tom Jeff quote.

Still, you can't take from people on the basis they may be mentally unstable. The end result is crazy people won't seek help. That's a well established principle.

People with mental issues are already denied firearms.


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Really? What is the process. Honestly, I don't know.

(05-27-2014 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 01:07 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  'No free person should be denied their right to a firearm'

Where is that quote from?

It's a paraphrase of a Tom Jeff quote.

Still, you can't take from people on the basis they may be mentally unstable. The end result is crazy people won't seek help. That's a well established principle.

People with mental issues are already denied firearms.


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Really? What is the process. Honestly, I don't know.

Background checks. Of course, it doesn't stop undiagnosed people from getting them.


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(05-27-2014 01:17 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 01:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 01:07 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:40 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Where is that quote from?

It's a paraphrase of a Tom Jeff quote.

Still, you can't take from people on the basis they may be mentally unstable. The end result is crazy people won't seek help. That's a well established principle.

People with mental issues are already denied firearms.


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Really? What is the process. Honestly, I don't know.

Background checks.


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What can be revealed in a background check? Do they have access to medical records or only police records?

Most of these guys were known to be mentally unstable well before they started killing people - the Newtown, Va Tech, NIU, and Columbine killers, at least. Seems like there should be some way to limit their access to guns at that point. At least make the attempt.

(05-27-2014 01:19 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Most of these guys were known to be mentally unstable well before they started killing people - the Newtown, Va Tech, NIU, and Columbine killers, at least. Seems like there should be some way to limit their access to guns at that point. At least make the attempt.

Well, the spying game that this administration used for spying on, and catching "terrorists" didn't do jack shart.

(05-27-2014 01:24 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 01:19 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  Most of these guys were known to be mentally unstable well before they started killing people - the Newtown, Va Tech, NIU, and Columbine killers, at least. Seems like there should be some way to limit their access to guns at that point. At least make the attempt.

Well, the spying game that this administration used for spying on, and catching "terrorists" didn't do jack shart.

It didn't? I thought Bush told us that we had stopped many terrorists attacks on the United States?

(05-27-2014 11:09 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  'No free person should be denied their right to a firearm'

So you are for allowing mentally unstable people to have free access to guns?