TCU paid $5M. Why shouldn't Boise? Nobody forced them to sign that contract. Pay up.

(05-22-2014 03:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  TCU paid $5M. Why shouldn't Boise? Nobody forced them to sign that contract. Pay up.

I think BSU will wait for what the mediator says.

(05-22-2014 03:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  TCU paid $5M. Why shouldn't Boise? Nobody forced them to sign that contract. Pay up.

I think BSU will wait for what the mediator says.

Cool, let's take it all the way...

I don't see the aac settling for much less than the $5 million. You guys signed the contract. This is the same deal if a company changes names and you have debt. You still have to pay up. A contract isn't voided because it didn't work out as well as you thought.

I wonder how long it would take Boise to recoup 5 million bucks from their sweetheart MWC deal?

(05-22-2014 03:17 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  I don't see the aac settling for much less than the $5 million. You guys signed the contract. This is the same deal if a company changes names and you have debt. You still have to pay up. A contract isn't voided because it didn't work out as well as you thought.

You keep calling it a contract. It was a memorandum of understanding

(05-22-2014 03:19 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I wonder how long it would take Boise to recoup 5 million bucks from their sweetheart MWC deal?

Not sure. They made about 250k more than Fresno last year so it could take awhile.

(05-22-2014 03:19 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I wonder how long it would take Boise to recoup 5 million bucks from their sweetheart MWC deal?

not long especially counting that the sweetheart deal includes paying for the majority of the AAC exit fees

(05-22-2014 03:21 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:19 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I wonder how long it would take Boise to recoup 5 million bucks from their sweetheart MWC deal?

Not sure. They made about 250k more than Fresno last year so it could take awhile.

and over a 1.5 million more than Wyoming

(05-22-2014 02:57 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  Nah... No to games... I rather have the full $5 mil and call it a day.

If Boise wants to schedule, don't call, we'll call you.

I agree with this, take a pass on the games and take the cash instead.

If by some chance games were scheduled, no "home and home" AAC home games only.

(05-22-2014 03:12 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  TCU paid $5M. Why shouldn't Boise? Nobody forced them to sign that contract. Pay up.

I think BSU will wait for what the mediator says.

Mediators simply mediate and help sides come to an arrangement. They don't issue decisions like an arbitrator.

(05-22-2014 01:40 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/22...687/&ihp=1

I still find it a shame the promise that the old Big East held for the Broncos dissipated; the national conference model would have been fun. I particulary was looking forward to tilts with Louisville, whose rise in football happened just prior to our own. Our 2004 Liberty Bowl against the Cardinals was a very competitive, back-and-forth game, with a hail mary as time expired falling incomplete to seal it for the 'Ville.

My guess is that this thing gets settled for under $2M.

I don't know what the settlement will be, but I also am disappointed that it didn't work out.

(05-22-2014 03:22 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:21 PM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 03:19 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:  I wonder how long it would take Boise to recoup 5 million bucks from their sweetheart MWC deal?

Not sure. They made about 250k more than Fresno last year so it could take awhile.

and over a 1.5 million more than Wyoming

600k more than Wyoming. I think everyone gets 1 million and whatever they get off bonus $ Here is the list from 2013. CSU and UNLV made 0. Hawaii has their own PPV deal with Ocianic for 2.4 I believe.

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/nov/...se-fresno/

Should stick to the 5 mil until a judge says otherwise.

(05-22-2014 01:47 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:40 PM)NeighSayer Wrote:  http://www.idahostatesman.com/2014/05/22...687/&ihp=1

I still find it a shame the promise that the old Big East held for the Broncos dissipated; the national conference model would have been fun. I particulary was looking forward to tilts with Louisville, whose rise in football happened just prior to our own. Our 2004 Liberty Bowl against the Cardinals was a very competitive, back-and-forth game, with a hail mary as time expired falling incomplete to seal it for the 'Ville.

My guess is that this thing gets settled for under $2M.

Yup, I really wanted the western division that was planned with Boise, SDSU, BYU, and AF. I would have even been fine with Boise, SDSU, Fresno, and one other. I think the nationwide thing would have made the conference incredibly unique and over time, would have significantly seprated the earning power of the AAC from the rest of the G5.

Although I see the surface appeal, I'm glad it didn't happen. IMO, there is just too much cultural disparity. Nobody at Temple will ever get very excited about playing SDSU or Air Force in anything, and vice-versa. I do not believe we could build fan bases on that competition, and the media dollars would be marginally better at best.

The tightening-up of our footprint was one of the few positive unintended consequences to come out of that last round of raiding. Personally, I'd have been happier if we were able to sign Southern Miss and ULL as opposed to SMU and Tulsa as well.

(05-22-2014 01:52 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I could see 3 million plus like a few football games.

Is that you, Brittain Banowsky?

Honestly, how is a football game against Boise worth $750K or so? Anyone who wants could probably pick up the phone and schedule them. And for those interested in knocking the MWC down a little, this will have the opposite effect.

I could care less about playing Boise State. Their run is over. SOS will be weak in a watered down MWC. Pay what you legally owe... no offense, bit it's too bad BSU is turning into another classless WV.

Agree with the posters above, it's getting spun into nonsense. The American *IS* the old Big East. Just sold the name. The C7 split and formed a *NEW* conference. Proof is the AQ status we held last season.

TCU paid up, and they didn't play a single game either. BSU will pay, period.

Also, wondering about all the MWC folks posting here? Take a look at the MWC board. It's a GHOST TOWN. That surely says something about the fanbase size, level of support or attention on the AAC as compared to the MWC.

(05-23-2014 08:10 AM)EdisonDoyle Wrote:  

(05-22-2014 01:52 PM)stever20 Wrote:  I could see 3 million plus like a few football games.

Is that you, Brittain Banowsky?

Honestly, how is a football game against Boise worth $750K or so? Anyone who wants could probably pick up the phone and schedule them. And for those interested in knocking the MWC down a little, this will have the opposite effect.

Yeah, I don't see how them scheduling games creates a ton of value now that they are no longer a top 25 caliber team. Not to mention only a few teams benefit. They just need to pay and everyone move along.

(05-23-2014 08:15 AM)Bull Wrote:  I could care less about playing Boise State. Their run is over. SOS will be weak in a watered down MWC. Pay what you legally owe... no offense, bit it's too bad BSU is turning into another classless WV.

Agree with the posters above, it's getting spun into nonsense. The American *IS* the old Big East. Just sold the name. The C7 split and formed a *NEW* conference. Proof is the AQ status we held last season.

TCU paid up, and they didn't play a single game either. BSU will pay, period.

Also, wondering about all the MWC folks posting here? Take a look at the MWC board. It's a GHOST TOWN. That surely says something about the fanbase size, level of support or attention on the AAC as compared to the MWC.

Three points:

1) I likewise could care less if we ever play Boise. Agree that their run is over, who needs them?

2) While USF can always use more money and I will be happy if we cash another check, it also won't bother me if Boise doesn't pay a cent. They never played in the Big East/AAC so from a 'moral' POV I can't say that they owe us anything. There's nothing for me to be outraged about.

3) The population of these boards is meaningless. Heck, our board is the biggest conference board here, it has more posts than the B1G or SEC boards by far, but that doesn't mean the AAC is more popular than those conferences. For whatever reason, AAC fans have long congregated on this board.

(05-23-2014 08:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 08:15 AM)Bull Wrote:  I could care less about playing Boise State. Their run is over. SOS will be weak in a watered down MWC. Pay what you legally owe... no offense, bit it's too bad BSU is turning into another classless WV.

Agree with the posters above, it's getting spun into nonsense. The American *IS* the old Big East. Just sold the name. The C7 split and formed a *NEW* conference. Proof is the AQ status we held last season.

TCU paid up, and they didn't play a single game either. BSU will pay, period.

Also, wondering about all the MWC folks posting here? Take a look at the MWC board. It's a GHOST TOWN. That surely says something about the fanbase size, level of support or attention on the AAC as compared to the MWC.

Three points:

1) I likewise could care less if we ever play Boise. Agree that their run is over, who needs them?

2) While USF can always use more money and I will be happy if we cash another check, it also won't bother me if Boise doesn't pay a cent. They never played in the Big East/AAC so from a 'moral' POV I can't say that they owe us anything. There's nothing for me to be outraged about.

3) The population of these boards is meaningless. Heck, our board is the biggest conference board here, it has more posts than the B1G or SEC boards by far, but that doesn't mean the AAC is more popular than those conferences. For whatever reason, AAC fans have long congregated on this board.

There was a big hassle when Boise backed out. Spent travel costs, time square billboard, and just overall damage of perception of backing out and playing us for a better mwc deal.

Just like in real life if you sign a contract there are cost to break.