(05-24-2014 10:52 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 10:47 AM)john01992 Wrote:  uconn fans: I say this to help you.

The B10 is never gonna happen in the near future. UCONN needs at least a decade of major FB growth and 2 decades of major academic growth to even be considered by the b10.

stick to conversations about how to get into the ACC.

F the ACC.

I'm pretty sure that is what the ACC said to uconn. LOL!

(05-27-2014 10:55 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 06:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when it comes down to it the grind of a p5 slate is much different than a cakewalk g5 slate. it wears teams down and is much harder to beat a p5 team when you have an entire schedule of p5 teams not just 1-3 p5 teams. TCU & utah already proved this.

In fairness to UConn, I have to point out two things here:

1) This particular game was early in the season and each team had played similar competition to that point. While depth that power team in power conference have does show up more near the end of the year, the "lower" teams in power conference often don't have any more depth than AAC or MWC teams

2) Utah and TCU both transitioned at the worst possible time, personnel wise in terms of graduating players. Now it does speak to the depth necessary to compete in bigger name conferences, but it's not like the TCU teams that won the Rose Bowl, or either BCS team from Utah are the ones that being beaten down in the Big 12 and the PAC 12.

gimmie a break......

TCU was ranked in the preseason in their first two years in the b12 while wvu was ranked in its first.

it is pretty obvious that g5 schools that dominate the WAC/MWC/AAC can't have the same success while transitioning to the p5.

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:55 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 06:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when it comes down to it the grind of a p5 slate is much different than a cakewalk g5 slate. it wears teams down and is much harder to beat a p5 team when you have an entire schedule of p5 teams not just 1-3 p5 teams. TCU & utah already proved this.

In fairness to UConn, I have to point out two things here:

1) This particular game was early in the season and each team had played similar competition to that point. While depth that power team in power conference have does show up more near the end of the year, the "lower" teams in power conference often don't have any more depth than AAC or MWC teams

2) Utah and TCU both transitioned at the worst possible time, personnel wise in terms of graduating players. Now it does speak to the depth necessary to compete in bigger name conferences, but it's not like the TCU teams that won the Rose Bowl, or either BCS team from Utah are the ones that being beaten down in the Big 12 and the PAC 12.

Penn State lit up the B1G when it joined.

yeah because PSU was the equivalent of a g5 school when they joined the b10

(05-27-2014 12:51 PM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 10:52 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 10:47 AM)john01992 Wrote:  uconn fans: I say this to help you.

The B10 is never gonna happen in the near future. UCONN needs at least a decade of major FB growth and 2 decades of major academic growth to even be considered by the b10.

stick to conversations about how to get into the ACC.

F the ACC.

I'm pretty sure that is what the ACC said to uconn. LOL!

It's also what UConn basketball said to Syracuse and other ACC teams on the court.

(05-27-2014 12:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:55 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 06:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when it comes down to it the grind of a p5 slate is much different than a cakewalk g5 slate. it wears teams down and is much harder to beat a p5 team when you have an entire schedule of p5 teams not just 1-3 p5 teams. TCU & utah already proved this.

In fairness to UConn, I have to point out two things here:

1) This particular game was early in the season and each team had played similar competition to that point. While depth that power team in power conference have does show up more near the end of the year, the "lower" teams in power conference often don't have any more depth than AAC or MWC teams

2) Utah and TCU both transitioned at the worst possible time, personnel wise in terms of graduating players. Now it does speak to the depth necessary to compete in bigger name conferences, but it's not like the TCU teams that won the Rose Bowl, or either BCS team from Utah are the ones that being beaten down in the Big 12 and the PAC 12.

Penn State lit up the B1G when it joined.

yeah because PSU was the equivalent of a g5 school when they joined the b10

Wow, you have a great deal of difficulty keeping up, don't you.

PSU's schedule was the same schedule that BE teams played. Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Boston College, Rutgers, Temple. That was PSU's eastern schedule year after year. When they went to the B1G, their record actually IMPROVED over what it was in the 10 years prior. Look it up. Who did Uconn play? Same teams as PSU played.

(05-27-2014 01:04 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:55 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(05-26-2014 06:21 PM)john01992 Wrote:  when it comes down to it the grind of a p5 slate is much different than a cakewalk g5 slate. it wears teams down and is much harder to beat a p5 team when you have an entire schedule of p5 teams not just 1-3 p5 teams. TCU & utah already proved this.

In fairness to UConn, I have to point out two things here:

1) This particular game was early in the season and each team had played similar competition to that point. While depth that power team in power conference have does show up more near the end of the year, the "lower" teams in power conference often don't have any more depth than AAC or MWC teams

2) Utah and TCU both transitioned at the worst possible time, personnel wise in terms of graduating players. Now it does speak to the depth necessary to compete in bigger name conferences, but it's not like the TCU teams that won the Rose Bowl, or either BCS team from Utah are the ones that being beaten down in the Big 12 and the PAC 12.

Penn State lit up the B1G when it joined.

yeah because PSU was the equivalent of a g5 school when they joined the b10

Wow, you have a great deal of difficulty keeping up, don't you.

PSU's schedule was the same schedule that BE teams played. Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Boston College, Rutgers, Temple. That was PSU's eastern schedule year after year. When they went to the B1G, their record actually IMPROVED over what it was in the 10 years prior. Look it up. Who did Uconn play? Same teams as PSU played.

your argument is literally one of the stupidest that I have ever seen on csnbbs and its entire basis relies on using selective seasons to serve as a benchmark. And using PSU as an example is the ultimate proof of how clueless you are.

(05-27-2014 12:51 PM)redbirdTD Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 10:52 AM)uconnwhaler Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 10:47 AM)john01992 Wrote:  uconn fans: I say this to help you.

The B10 is never gonna happen in the near future. UCONN needs at least a decade of major FB growth and 2 decades of major academic growth to even be considered by the b10.

stick to conversations about how to get into the ACC.

F the ACC.

I'm pretty sure that is what the ACC said to uconn. LOL!

Shouldn't you be over on the ACC board, instead of "slumming" with us common-folk?

Sigh!

Here it is in a nut shell. The Grant of rights will be upheld. Once that happens, the ACC and Big 12 schools will be off the table.

The B1G is still looking to expand for it's new right deal. Who is left???

UConn is right where it needs to be and surprise, so is Temple. That's right, "Temple".

I honestly didn't want to post it because I don't want to see it happen. It is however a game changer. Once you take UConn and then Temple in Philly. You now have UConn, Temple, Rutgers and MD encircling NYC.

Remember, you're not just getting the programs that are located there but, you're also getting a site from which you can advertise the rest of your teams. This means that Gotham City will have B1G coming at it from at least 6 x 4 home games a year in Football and 14 to 16 x 4 home games in Basketball per year. That's a lot of exposure for just those two sports alone.

Now Philly like NYC is a Pro Sports town. However, there are a lot of casual fans whom will tune in to a game here and there during the week and Saturdays and of course prior to the NFL Thursday night games. most of those fans will tune in to what's fresh on their minds and since their going to be fed super sized portions of the B1G, whom do you think they'll be watching. The B1G of course.

This has been an imaginary post and pay it no attention at all.

(05-27-2014 06:31 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 01:04 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 10:55 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  In fairness to UConn, I have to point out two things here:

1) This particular game was early in the season and each team had played similar competition to that point. While depth that power team in power conference have does show up more near the end of the year, the "lower" teams in power conference often don't have any more depth than AAC or MWC teams

2) Utah and TCU both transitioned at the worst possible time, personnel wise in terms of graduating players. Now it does speak to the depth necessary to compete in bigger name conferences, but it's not like the TCU teams that won the Rose Bowl, or either BCS team from Utah are the ones that being beaten down in the Big 12 and the PAC 12.

Penn State lit up the B1G when it joined.

yeah because PSU was the equivalent of a g5 school when they joined the b10

Wow, you have a great deal of difficulty keeping up, don't you.

PSU's schedule was the same schedule that BE teams played. Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Boston College, Rutgers, Temple. That was PSU's eastern schedule year after year. When they went to the B1G, their record actually IMPROVED over what it was in the 10 years prior. Look it up. Who did Uconn play? Same teams as PSU played.

your argument is literally one of the stupidest that I have ever seen on csnbbs and its entire basis relies on using selective seasons to serve as a benchmark. And using PSU as an example is the ultimate proof of how clueless you are.

That's your best response? Your argument is stupid?

I'll say it again: you argued that the rigor of a B1G or ACC schedule makes teams entering such a conference less successful than they were in their previous conference. Yet, PSU had a WORSE record against the very same teams UConn played as of last year than it did against the B1G over its first decade. I also gave you the examples of BC, Syracuse and Pitt, all of which did BETTER after joining the ACC than they did in the BE. This shows that not every team experiences what West Virginia suffered. Missouri is yet another example.

Now, come back at me with your insults because you lack a logical and reasoning bone in your body.

(05-27-2014 10:23 PM)USFRamenu Wrote:  Sigh!

Here it is in a nut shell. The Grant of rights will be upheld. Once that happens, the ACC and Big 12 schools will be off the table.

The B1G is still looking to expand for it's new right deal. Who is left???

UConn is right where it needs to be and surprise, so is Temple. That's right, "Temple".

I honestly didn't want to post it because I don't want to see it happen. It is however a game changer. Once you take UConn and then Temple in Philly. You now have UConn, Temple, Rutgers and MD encircling NYC.

Remember, you're not just getting the programs that are located there but, you're also getting a site from which you can advertise the rest of your teams. This means that Gotham City will have B1G coming at it from at least 6 x 4 home games a year in Football and 14 to 16 x 4 home games in Basketball per year. That's a lot of exposure for just those two sports alone.

Now Philly like NYC is a Pro Sports town. However, there are a lot of casual fans whom will tune in to a game here and there during the week and Saturdays and of course prior to the NFL Thursday night games. most of those fans will tune in to what's fresh on their minds and since their going to be fed super sized portions of the B1G, whom do you think they'll be watching. The B1G of course.

This has been an imaginary post and pay it no attention at all.

Half of PSU's 50,000 students come from Philly.

(05-27-2014 06:31 PM)john01992 Wrote:  your argument is literally one of the stupidest that I have ever seen on csnbbs and its entire basis relies on using selective seasons to serve as a benchmark. And using PSU as an example is the ultimate proof of how clueless you are.

"Not for nothing" John, but this is three posts down after you used a pre-season ranking to prove how good a team was supposed to be, which would literally be THE stupidest argument I have seen on CSNbbs. And I have read Buckaineer posts.

(05-28-2014 11:41 AM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 06:31 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 01:04 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:57 PM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 12:05 PM)upstater1 Wrote:  Penn State lit up the B1G when it joined.

yeah because PSU was the equivalent of a g5 school when they joined the b10

Wow, you have a great deal of difficulty keeping up, don't you.

PSU's schedule was the same schedule that BE teams played. Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, Boston College, Rutgers, Temple. That was PSU's eastern schedule year after year. When they went to the B1G, their record actually IMPROVED over what it was in the 10 years prior. Look it up. Who did Uconn play? Same teams as PSU played.

your argument is literally one of the stupidest that I have ever seen on csnbbs and its entire basis relies on using selective seasons to serve as a benchmark. And using PSU as an example is the ultimate proof of how clueless you are.

That's your best response? Your argument is stupid?

I'll say it again: you argued that the rigor of a B1G or ACC schedule makes teams entering such a conference less successful than they were in their previous conference. Yet, PSU had a WORSE record against the very same teams UConn played as of last year than it did against the B1G over its first decade. I also gave you the examples of BC, Syracuse and Pitt, all of which did BETTER after joining the ACC than they did in the BE. This shows that not every team experiences what West Virginia suffered. Missouri is yet another example.

Now, come back at me with your insults because you lack a logical and reasoning bone in your body.

jesus.....

add lack of reading comprehension to the list of things you suck at.

also add lack of football knowledge to your list as well as.

in 1992 & 1991 the two years before joining the b10 PSU played:

notre dame who finished 10-1-1 & 10-3 in both seasons
miami who finished 11-1 & 12-0 in both seasons

you are extremely stupid acting as if that era was remotely comparable to the teams uconn plays today while ignoring that PSU played BYU, USC, texas, notre dame, alabama, & miami all of which were very good back then as well as pitt, cuse, & BC who were far different programs in the 80s & early 90s as they were today.

we are not talking about some brand new program with zero FBS history like uconn, joining the b10. we are talking about a well established top 10 program that had a longstanding history of competing with the big boys and playing them on a regular basis. PSU won 2 NCs in the 10 years before joining the b10. psu went 42-7 in their first 4 seasons in the b10 including an undefeated season. so I really have no idea as to what the point that you are trying to get at here is.

(05-28-2014 11:45 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(05-27-2014 06:31 PM)john01992 Wrote:  your argument is literally one of the stupidest that I have ever seen on csnbbs and its entire basis relies on using selective seasons to serve as a benchmark. And using PSU as an example is the ultimate proof of how clueless you are.

"Not for nothing" John, but this is three posts down after you used a pre-season ranking to prove how good a team was supposed to be, which would literally be THE stupidest argument I have seen on CSNbbs. And I have read Buckaineer posts.

it is one thing to call someones argument stupid, but it doesn't mean anything unless the argument is actually stupid.

a team blowing back to back preseason rankings in a new conference is as symbolic as it gets of a team failing in a new conference. it wasn't like those rankings were inflated because both years sportswriters & TCU fans spent the entire offseason talking about how legitimate those rankings were.

which annoyed the crap outta me in the summer of 2013 especially. TCU fans were saying that 2012 was a fluke cuz their team was so young and that they would be so good next year ==> and they ended up doing worse that year.