(05-20-2014 06:48 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: (05-20-2014 05:50 PM)trojanbrutha Wrote: (05-20-2014 08:49 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: While I agree for the most part and like the idea of troy being that high, a lot of recruiting isn't covered by 247 or any of the services. Many top SBC playmakers are BCS/AQ/P5 transfers. Dowling from WKU as an example.
Also, as much as I agree with this thread (and it hurts because Troy's last two non-juco classes haven't been that good) I seem to remember you saying Arkansas State was the next Boise last year, and that no one in the SBC had the talent to step to Arkansas State. When clearly, two teams did, and one or two others came close to knocking off the red wolves. I see shades of the "we are the best ever" developing again here.
I think Arkansas State will be down this year. Not much, maybe 2nd 3rd or 4th place finish. Enough talent to contend, for sure.
How can you say the last 2 classes weren't that good minus jucos...? The majority of them were redshirted...and the ones that played as true froshes have been impressive.
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This 2014 class and the 2013 class compared to previous classes per ESPN.com. While recruiting services aren't everything (for instance, Chunn and Burkes are 2-Stars), our recent classes have far less "star power". That's all I'm saying. I should have worded what I said differently. They could obviously be way better than advertised.
Stars are fun but to really know requires some digging, and that takes work. The best way to judge a player is who and how many 'offers' they have, and that is hard to track without a lot of work.
May have to visit several sites, or if you are near a school ask the coaches during the recruiting roundup, which is what people do at ASU's.
Bottom line when you see 2-star types with long offer sheets, that include top 10 teams, and maybe have started for a major school, you can assume they are considered better prospects, than players with three stars with one or two offers.
The reason I know ASU is recruiting well is I know that almost every player they have signed had offers from schools that most fans would say are ahead of ASU on the FBS food chain, and will make to campus . I just don't know that level of detail about the other SBC classes, with the same confidence as I do ASU .
If you coaches are recruiting as well as ASU, you are going to be a very, very good team. How good? if ASU can get some coaches to stick around you will see how good their talent is, and you will be impressed. Make that very impressed, because it does take time to acclimate coaches and players, and coaching turnover is the only reason ASU does not have 3 undisputed championships to go along with the best talent in the SBC.
We already knew this years ASU team would be as good or better than the last three if they could address a few issues with recruiting, specifically depth at RB and interior DL depth.
With that I will let you guys get back to discussing realignment and TV issues, subjects I care little about. Enjoy the year and I look forward to following the SBC again.