(05-25-2014 02:59 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Fourteen is a horrible number for scheduling. The SEC and B1G are not going to stay there long and the ACC will go to 16 as soon as ND joins fully (I would not hold my breath for this).

How exactly would 16 be better for scheduling than 14? People have said that before but no really offers a good reason. Three conferences have 14 teams and none of them have any problems with scheduling. Whatever complaints there are, they're usually about not playing certain teams enough, which is a problem that going to 16 would make worse.

(05-24-2014 01:55 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  you can't wait for other conf to expand, then their is nobody left

There already is nobody left. At least nobody worth P5 money.

It has been said before but what the hell:

1. Cincinnati will never see the light of day in the Big 12 as long as Texas is in the conference.
2. Memphis will never see the light of day in the Big 12 as long as Texas is in the conference.
3. No Florida school will ever see the light of day in the Big 12 as long as Texas is in the conference.

I still honestly believe WVU will end up in the SEC.

That is all!

(05-25-2014 03:22 AM)prp Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 02:59 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Fourteen is a horrible number for scheduling. The SEC and B1G are not going to stay there long and the ACC will go to 16 as soon as ND joins fully (I would not hold my breath for this).

How exactly would 16 be better for scheduling than 14? People have said that before but no really offers a good reason. Three conferences have 14 teams and none of them have any problems with scheduling. Whatever complaints there are, they're usually about not playing certain teams enough, which is a problem that going to 16 would make worse.

Agree. There is a misconception out there that you can't have flexible scheduling with 14 teams. You just need to set up alternating divisions. Divisions set up one way 50% of the time. And the other way the other 50%.

For example, you could set it up so that in the SEC has different divisions in even and odd years.

SEC even years
West - A&M, LSU, Arky, Miss, MSU, Bama, Auburn
East- Fla, Georgia, S. CAR., Tenn, Vandy, Ky, Mizzou

SEC odd years
West-A&M, LSU, Arky, Tenn, Vandy, Ky, Mizzou
East- Fla, Ga., S.Car., Miss, MSU, Bama, Auburn

There are countless other possibilities and combinations. That is just 1 example. It could take some getting used to but people will just start calling divisions by those names. Odd West. Odd east. Even east. Even west.

(05-24-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:00 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 12:19 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Big 12 should go to 14 teams. Connect the footprint with Memphis, Cincinnati, East Carolina and Missouri State.

Missouri State Wilkie!!!!!!! With that one your icon should have been instead of

It is a "State" school rather than a city school or a directional. So the Big12 could connect the footprint with Missouri State, Illinois State, Indiana State and Kentucky State, though AFAIU they may have to convince some of those to take up FB.

Missouri ST can't even qualify for admission into the Sunbelt or the MAC. There is no way the B-12 is even going to blink at them at this time.

(05-25-2014 08:08 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:00 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 12:19 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Big 12 should go to 14 teams. Connect the footprint with Memphis, Cincinnati, East Carolina and Missouri State.

Missouri State Wilkie!!!!!!! With that one your icon should have been instead of

It is a "State" school rather than a city school or a directional. So the Big12 could connect the footprint with Missouri State, Illinois State, Indiana State and Kentucky State, though AFAIU they may have to convince some of those to take up FB.

Missouri ST can't even qualify for admission into the Sunbelt or the MAC. There is no way the B-12 is even going to blink at them at this time.

Yes, i realize that this forum is for speculating about realignment, but I never ceased to be astonished by speculation that Power conferences will add schools with absolutely zero football profile - like Missouri State or Buffalo, etc. - to their rosters.

That simply defies all rationality.

(05-25-2014 05:53 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  It has been said before but what the hell:

1. Cincinnati will never see the light of day in the Big 12 as long as Texas is in the conference.
2. Memphis will never see the light of day in the Big 12 as long as Texas is in the conference.
3. No Florida school will ever see the light of day in the Big 12 as long as Texas is in the conference.

I still honestly believe WVU will end up in the SEC.

That is all!

Both Texas and the Oklahoma schools will end up in the SEC. WVU will join forces with the Kansas schools to form a new super conference with Memphis and UCF.

Yeah...no

But the Big 12 will be around till at least 2025

(05-25-2014 10:37 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Yeah...no

But the Big 12 will be around till at least 2025

Great. I am glad you are finally in agreement that the Big XII isn't going to expand or add any mid major programs.

Be happy they accepted WVU and realize the conference is where it's going to be for a while.

but, the SEC has been trying to land Oklahoma for a long time and that is probably our final destination.

(05-25-2014 10:44 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 10:37 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  Yeah...no

But the Big 12 will be around till at least 2025

Great. I am glad you are finally in agreement that the Big XII isn't going to expand or add any mid major programs.

Be happy they accepted WVU and realize the conference is where it's going to be for a while.

but, the SEC has been trying to land Oklahoma for a long time and that is probably our final destination.

Mostly agree except for the unintended consequences of the new playoff system. If the CFP selection committee decides to overlook a Big12 champion because there is no CCG, I'm willing to bet that they will first try to bend the committee's opinion, and ultimately add teams for a CCG if unsuccesful. But IF's and BUT's and all that. I'm a big UCF fan, but I'm also a realist. P5 snobbery will prevent deserving teams from becoming equal.

The Realignment chairs have most likely stopped for the next 8 to 10 years....yes there will be some more movement but not at the pace it was between 2010 and 2012 IMO...

(05-25-2014 11:35 AM)Maize Wrote:  The Realignment chairs have most likely stopped for the next 8 to 10 years....yes there will be some more movement but not at the pace it was between 2010 and 2012 IMO...

That's the strong likelihood based on past periods of Power Conference realignment ... there is normally a flurry of activity, and then a period of stability, because the flurry of activity basically taps out the attractive possibilities, and it takes some time for the college sports landscape to change enough for those value assessments to change.

Add on top the extended GOR, that reinforces the tendency that is already there.

Witness the fact that P5 realignment speculation has basically boiled down to whether the Big12 will see reason to go back to 12, plus the occasional wishful thinking wild prediction by people with histories of wild predictions that didn't come true.

(05-25-2014 09:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 08:08 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:00 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(05-23-2014 12:19 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  Big 12 should go to 14 teams. Connect the footprint with Memphis, Cincinnati, East Carolina and Missouri State.

Missouri State Wilkie!!!!!!! With that one your icon should have been instead of

It is a "State" school rather than a city school or a directional. So the Big12 could connect the footprint with Missouri State, Illinois State, Indiana State and Kentucky State, though AFAIU they may have to convince some of those to take up FB.

Missouri ST can't even qualify for admission into the Sunbelt or the MAC. There is no way the B-12 is even going to blink at them at this time.

Yes, i realize that this forum is for speculating about realignment, but I never ceased to be astonished by speculation that Power conferences will add schools with absolutely zero football profile - like Missouri State or Buffalo, etc. - to their rosters.

That simply defies all rationality.

Mostly it is just a result of animosty, jealousy, envy etc of the Big12.

(05-26-2014 03:39 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 09:20 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-25-2014 08:08 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(05-24-2014 08:00 AM)carolinaknights Wrote:  Missouri State Wilkie!!!!!!! With that one your icon should have been instead of

It is a "State" school rather than a city school or a directional. So the Big12 could connect the footprint with Missouri State, Illinois State, Indiana State and Kentucky State, though AFAIU they may have to convince some of those to take up FB.

Missouri ST can't even qualify for admission into the Sunbelt or the MAC. There is no way the B-12 is even going to blink at them at this time.

Yes, i realize that this forum is for speculating about realignment, but I never ceased to be astonished by speculation that Power conferences will add schools with absolutely zero football profile - like Missouri State or Buffalo, etc. - to their rosters.

That simply defies all rationality.

Mostly it is just a result of animosty, jealousy, envy etc of the Big12.

Oh yes, we are all jealous. I cannot eat or sleep from the stored up envy...