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8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
And the winners are:

Sens. Edward J. Markey, D-Mass., Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., Jack Reed, D-Conn., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

They're just pissed that they haven't found a viable way to tax this sin yet. And no, I don't smoke 'em, I just find the hypocrisy a bit ludicrous.

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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
(05-10-2014 07:51 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  And the winners are:

Sens. Edward J. Markey, D-Mass., Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., Jack Reed, D-Conn., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

They're just pissed that they haven't found a viable way to tax this sin yet. And no, I don't smoke 'em, I just find the hypocrisy a bit ludicrous.

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While opposing e-cigarettes is pretty silly, it's clear you don't understand what hypocrisy actually means.

It's just a buzzword for you all now.
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
(05-10-2014 09:10 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 07:51 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  And the winners are:

Sens. Edward J. Markey, D-Mass., Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., Jack Reed, D-Conn., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

They're just pissed that they haven't found a viable way to tax this sin yet. And no, I don't smoke 'em, I just find the hypocrisy a bit ludicrous.

<< link >>

While opposing e-cigarettes is pretty silly, it's clear you don't understand what hypocrisy actually means.

It's just a buzzword for you all now.

And yet again, you step into the lunatic fringe.

The hypocrisy is embedded in the fact that this is a safer alternative to tobacco, and they are using an empty claim about health to move this product into taxable territory. It is a direct result of tax losses on tobacco products.
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
(05-10-2014 09:24 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 09:10 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 07:51 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  And the winners are:

Sens. Edward J. Markey, D-Mass., Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., Jack Reed, D-Conn., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

They're just pissed that they haven't found a viable way to tax this sin yet. And no, I don't smoke 'em, I just find the hypocrisy a bit ludicrous.

<< link >>

While opposing e-cigarettes is pretty silly, it's clear you don't understand what hypocrisy actually means.

It's just a buzzword for you all now.

And yet again, you step into the lunatic fringe.

The hypocrisy is embedded in the fact that this is a safer alternative to tobacco, and they are using an empty claim about health to move this product into taxable territory. It is a direct result of tax losses on tobacco products.

Where's the hypocrisy? I see stupidity, but not hypocrisy.
05-10-2014 09:47 AM
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
The politicians will be opposed to e-cigarettes until the current tobacco industry can take control of the market. The giant tobacco companies already have the retail pipeline and capital, so it's a matter of time. Some of them have already taken a large position in the market.

After they figure out how to tax it and regulate it, they'll start being supportive.



http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/11/2...YH20131120

http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-intellige...g-tobacco/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/25...06725.html
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
What exactly are these people sucking into their lungs with these e-cigarettes?
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(05-10-2014 10:10 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  What exactly are these people sucking into their lungs with these e-cigarettes?

A lot less toxic chemicals than in cigarettes.

Also, the atomized nicotine can be absorbed through mucous membranes so there is no need to inhale into the lungs. Smoke it like a cigar and the effect is the same.
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
(05-10-2014 09:24 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 09:10 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 07:51 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  And the winners are:

Sens. Edward J. Markey, D-Mass., Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., Jack Reed, D-Conn., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

They're just pissed that they haven't found a viable way to tax this sin yet. And no, I don't smoke 'em, I just find the hypocrisy a bit ludicrous.

<< link >>

While opposing e-cigarettes is pretty silly, it's clear you don't understand what hypocrisy actually means.

It's just a buzzword for you all now.

And yet again, you step into the lunatic fringe.

The hypocrisy is embedded in the fact that this is a safer alternative to tobacco, and they are using an empty claim about health to move this product into taxable territory. It is a direct result of tax losses on tobacco products.

What's ironic is that they are in fact doing the bidding of the tobacco companies in opposing the E-cigs. I can only guess the lobbyists that are driving this. I'm more than positive these senator's are not looking out for "our" best interests.
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
This is an orgasm moment for these D's (and the R')... They get to cozy on up to big money tobacco and take a "hard line stance" for public health at the same time....
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
and surprise surprise...they aren't safe. Like anyone actually thought it was safe to inhale formaldehyde.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/05/0...399235324/
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
Hell, the sun causes cancer...everything is unsafe these days.
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RE: 8 Democrat Senators oppose e-cigarettes
(05-10-2014 11:07 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  and surprise surprise...they aren't safe. Like anyone actually thought it was safe to inhale formaldehyde.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2014/05/0...399235324/

I hope you did not make plans for a 4th of july back yard party..

http://www.nutritiouslife.com/nlts/the-f...rcinogens/

Looks like the Back Yard BBQ needs to be regulated by the federal government..
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(05-10-2014 09:47 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 09:24 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 09:10 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 07:51 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  And the winners are:

Sens. Edward J. Markey, D-Mass., Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., Jack Reed, D-Conn., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

They're just pissed that they haven't found a viable way to tax this sin yet. And no, I don't smoke 'em, I just find the hypocrisy a bit ludicrous.

<< link >>

While opposing e-cigarettes is pretty silly, it's clear you don't understand what hypocrisy actually means.

It's just a buzzword for you all now.

And yet again, you step into the lunatic fringe.

The hypocrisy is embedded in the fact that this is a safer alternative to tobacco, and they are using an empty claim about health to move this product into taxable territory. It is a direct result of tax losses on tobacco products.

Where's the hypocrisy? I see stupidity, but not hypocrisy.

You should seek some help for your fundamental understanding of English. Is it a second language for you?

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(05-10-2014 10:20 AM)Pyrizzo Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 09:24 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 09:10 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:  
(05-10-2014 07:51 AM)wahoowa Wrote:  And the winners are:

Sens. Edward J. Markey, D-Mass., Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, Barbara Boxer, D-Calif., Jeff Merkley, D-Ore., Jack Reed, D-Conn., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, and Dick Durbin, D-Ill.

They're just pissed that they haven't found a viable way to tax this sin yet. And no, I don't smoke 'em, I just find the hypocrisy a bit ludicrous.

<< link >>

While opposing e-cigarettes is pretty silly, it's clear you don't understand what hypocrisy actually means.

It's just a buzzword for you all now.

And yet again, you step into the lunatic fringe.

The hypocrisy is embedded in the fact that this is a safer alternative to tobacco, and they are using an empty claim about health to move this product into taxable territory. It is a direct result of tax losses on tobacco products.

What's ironic is that they are in fact doing the bidding of the tobacco companies in opposing the E-cigs. I can only guess the lobbyists that are driving this. I'm more than positive these senator's are not looking out for "our" best interests.

It's not Ironic.. this is exactly why they're doing it. Tobacco lobbies are just as big as any other lobby group in the nation. They're trying to step in and make sure they dont' lose their income..
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(05-10-2014 11:04 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  This is an orgasm moment for these D's (and the R')... They get to cozy on up to big money tobacco and take a "hard line stance" for public health at the same time....

nailed it
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