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CONGRESS wrote the ACA, guts, glory and all - every word of it. If one doesn't like it or something in it, CONGRESS is the body responsible for modifying it or rewriting parts of it. If the Congress wishes and has the needed votes to override a veto, it can abolish anything the government funds by their laws, including the ACA or an undeclared foreign war.

The SCOUSA cannot rule on Congressional procedures since they are coequal branches of government. They can and do rule on laws passed by Congress but must wait for a case to be brought to it by a citizen or citizen group.

(05-02-2014 11:03 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  CONGRESS wrote the ACA, guts, glory and all - every word of it. If one doesn't like it or something in it, CONGRESS is the body responsible for modifying it or rewriting parts of it. If the Congress wishes and has the needed votes to override a veto, it can abolish anything the government funds by their laws, including the ACA or an undeclared foreign war.

The SCOUSA cannot rule on Congressional procedures since they are coequal branches of government. They can and do rule on laws passed by Congress but must wait for a case to be brought to it by a citizen or citizen group.

Is this your letter to President Obama? Apparently, he didn't get your memo.

(05-02-2014 09:02 AM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  The VA wouldn't be the model, Medicare would be the model. You know, that government insurance that tea partiers don't want to give up?

Ah, the one that pays my surgeons $200 to remove a prostate?

I would love nothing more for my SSI deductions to go to private insurance in the future.

Quick quiz: who declines more treatments: Medicare or private insurance?

(05-02-2014 11:28 AM)RBB Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:03 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  CONGRESS wrote the ACA, guts, glory and all - every word of it. If one doesn't like it or something in it, CONGRESS is the body responsible for modifying it or rewriting parts of it. If the Congress wishes and has the needed votes to override a veto, it can abolish anything the government funds by their laws, including the ACA or an undeclared foreign war.

The SCOUSA cannot rule on Congressional procedures since they are coequal branches of government. They can and do rule on laws passed by Congress but must wait for a case to be brought to it by a citizen or citizen group.

Is this your letter to President Obama? Apparently, he didn't get your memo.

The President, as Chief Executive of the US, can make choices about ENFORCEMENT of laws and court decisions - he can neither write them nor interpret them. President Eisenhower could have declined to send troops (101st Airborne) into Little Rock in 1958 - it was his call. President Kennedy chose to NOT send troops into Tuscaloosa in 1963 to face Gov. George Wallace in his "Stand in the Schoolhouse door". Again, it was his call.

Remember when President Jackson refused to enforce the Supreme Court decision in favor of the land holding rights of Cherokee Indians in GA? He stated "Mr Marshall has ruled, now let him enforce his ruling". The result was the infamous "Trail of Tears" which is why many Native Americans won't deal in trade even today with $20 bills. Jackson was within his Constitutional powers no matter how his decision embarrasses the USA today.

Are you telling me that the President has never had anything to do with any law passed in Congress?

I can never tell how far your ignorance goes.

(05-01-2014 10:20 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 10:16 PM)LightEmUp70 Wrote:  

(05-01-2014 01:34 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  The USG offered the state a deal - Alabama puts up $1B toward medicaid and the USG matches it with $18B.

It was Obamacare, the devil, so that deal was turned down.

I have yet to figure out how anyone turns that deal down, politics be damned. It's right up there with "We don't want the Feds telling us what to do, we're not going to set up a state health care exchange", so instead the people from Alabama who are looking for insurance under the ACA have to use the national exchange, where indeed, Federal bureaucrats who don't know the Alabama insurance market as well as the local people do offer insurance programs.

Most of it does not make sense, and won't for four or five years until the get the worst of the bugs out.

Actually, it was turned down for multiple reasons, part of which include the fact that states are responsible for all cost overruns...not that that ever happens in government.

And really? The answer to the healthcare is to make more people dependent on government?

No, the answer to healthcare is to make sure everyone has it.

We are nowhere near the top in health outcomes, but we blow away the competition when it comes to spending per capita.

Every other industrialized country on the planet has figured it out. Why can't we?

Because all of those other nations require patient accountability...we don't.

The system that so many people want (and think they might get), does not, and cannot, exist anywhere in the world.
In all those other countries that people love to mention, patients routinely get turned away for treatments when their conditions are a direct result of their own actions. Americans won't stand for that. We want to be able to do whatever the hell we want to our bodies and then have somebody else pay for the results.

(05-02-2014 08:01 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:28 AM)RBB Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:03 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  CONGRESS wrote the ACA, guts, glory and all - every word of it. If one doesn't like it or something in it, CONGRESS is the body responsible for modifying it or rewriting parts of it. If the Congress wishes and has the needed votes to override a veto, it can abolish anything the government funds by their laws, including the ACA or an undeclared foreign war.

The SCOUSA cannot rule on Congressional procedures since they are coequal branches of government. They can and do rule on laws passed by Congress but must wait for a case to be brought to it by a citizen or citizen group.

Is this your letter to President Obama? Apparently, he didn't get your memo.

The President, as Chief Executive of the US, can make choices about ENFORCEMENT of laws and court decisions - he can neither write them nor interpret them. President Eisenhower could have declined to send troops (101st Airborne) into Little Rock in 1958 - it was his call. President Kennedy chose to NOT send troops into Tuscaloosa in 1963 to face Gov. George Wallace in his "Stand in the Schoolhouse door". Again, it was his call.

What the heck are you talking about?!? President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard and sent them to Tuscaloosa to motivate Wallace to stand aside and end the stand. For as much as you talk about it I thought you would know the details of incident

(05-02-2014 09:28 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 08:01 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:28 AM)RBB Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:03 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  CONGRESS wrote the ACA, guts, glory and all - every word of it. If one doesn't like it or something in it, CONGRESS is the body responsible for modifying it or rewriting parts of it. If the Congress wishes and has the needed votes to override a veto, it can abolish anything the government funds by their laws, including the ACA or an undeclared foreign war.

The SCOUSA cannot rule on Congressional procedures since they are coequal branches of government. They can and do rule on laws passed by Congress but must wait for a case to be brought to it by a citizen or citizen group.

Is this your letter to President Obama? Apparently, he didn't get your memo.

The President, as Chief Executive of the US, can make choices about ENFORCEMENT of laws and court decisions - he can neither write them nor interpret them. President Eisenhower could have declined to send troops (101st Airborne) into Little Rock in 1958 - it was his call. President Kennedy chose to NOT send troops into Tuscaloosa in 1963 to face Gov. George Wallace in his "Stand in the Schoolhouse door". Again, it was his call.

What the heck are you talking about?!? President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard and sent them to Tuscaloosa to motivate Wallace to stand aside and end the stand. For as much as you talk about it I thought you would know the details of incident

President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National guard to deprive the governor of their availability (Gov. Orval Faubus had tried to use the Arkansas National Guard to resist integration of Central High School in Little Rock in 1958), not to send them to Tuscaloosa. The only armed forces I saw that day were the State Troopers in their blue helmets and the Conservation officers in their green helmets. The federal government was represented on site by U.S. Marshalls, not soldiers.

I'd trust the state government more if it were any better at stuff than it is.

(05-04-2014 03:00 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I'd trust the state government more if it were any better at stuff than it is.

Some people in state government keeping their mouths shut when they feel the need to opine about religion, history, national issues beyond their reach would be a good start to improving their image.

(05-02-2014 10:39 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 09:28 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 08:01 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:28 AM)RBB Wrote:  

(05-02-2014 11:03 AM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  CONGRESS wrote the ACA, guts, glory and all - every word of it. If one doesn't like it or something in it, CONGRESS is the body responsible for modifying it or rewriting parts of it. If the Congress wishes and has the needed votes to override a veto, it can abolish anything the government funds by their laws, including the ACA or an undeclared foreign war.

The SCOUSA cannot rule on Congressional procedures since they are coequal branches of government. They can and do rule on laws passed by Congress but must wait for a case to be brought to it by a citizen or citizen group.

Is this your letter to President Obama? Apparently, he didn't get your memo.

The President, as Chief Executive of the US, can make choices about ENFORCEMENT of laws and court decisions - he can neither write them nor interpret them. President Eisenhower could have declined to send troops (101st Airborne) into Little Rock in 1958 - it was his call. President Kennedy chose to NOT send troops into Tuscaloosa in 1963 to face Gov. George Wallace in his "Stand in the Schoolhouse door". Again, it was his call.

What the heck are you talking about?!? President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National Guard and sent them to Tuscaloosa to motivate Wallace to stand aside and end the stand. For as much as you talk about it I thought you would know the details of incident

President Kennedy federalized the Alabama National guard to deprive the governor of their availability (Gov. Orval Faubus had tried to use the Arkansas National Guard to resist integration of Central High School in Little Rock in 1958), not to send them to Tuscaloosa. The only armed forces I saw that day were the State Troopers in their blue helmets and the Conservation officers in their green helmets. The federal government was represented on site by U.S. Marshalls, not soldiers.

That would be wrong. My father in law was there and his post was below the window of one of those who enrolled. He was NG.