(05-01-2014 06:59 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  This is going nowhere. Even with this push it will go nowhere. I am somewhat impressed with the persistence but it's all you got. Desperate people make for desperate times. A whole ball of nothing. Sorry

You are being totally dishonest. Who is going to believe you? People believe their own eyes and ears. Your hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, shows you as the unrelenting partisan hack. Are you Bagdadh Carney?

Let's say it went down Exactly as you think. What difference does it make? Honestly. If they came out the very next day and said it was Al quadea and they put a 12 inch boner in our ass. What difference would it have made. Does it bring back the dead? Do we get a rewind? That's why I don't think this gets any traction. If what you guys thnk is 100 percent true which I don't think is. You still have jack squat. So they didn't know exactly how it went down and they spun it in a favorable light?????? Holy shiitakes after what we went through under the last administration this is lollipops and candy canes. There is no scandal here. I'm telling you this will go absolutely nowhere. I looked up the websites today that were reporting on it. ALL of them tied to conservative sources. The Financial Times. The Wall Street journal. WND. Dobson Family. But keep on keeping on.......


Btw JMU is funnier than heck. I really enjoy his sense of humor. He's my political 180 but his postings really crack me up.


Kudos jmu

(05-01-2014 08:28 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Let's say it went down Exactly as you think. What difference does it make? Honestly. If they came out the very next day and said it was Al quadea and they put a 12 inch boner in our ass. What difference would it have made. Does it bring back the dead? Do we get a rewind? That's why I don't think this gets any traction. If what you guys thnk is 100 percent true which I don't think is. You still have jack squat. So they didn't know exactly how it went down and they spun it in a favorable light?????? Holy shiitakes after what we went through under the last administration this is lollipops and candy canes. There is no scandal here. I'm telling you this will go absolutely nowhere. I looked up the websites today that were reporting on it. ALL of them tied to conservative sources. The Financial Times. The Wall Street journal. WND. Dobson Family. But keep on keeping on.......


Btw JMU is funnier than heck. I really enjoy his sense of humor. He's my political 180 but his postings really crack me up.


Kudos jmu

Mach, why does it seem to surprise you that liberal sources aren't reporting this? And while nothing may have changed if the truth was told, it says a lot that they won't tell the truth. You can't sit there and tell me you think it's ok for the president to ignore a deadly raid on an embassy and then lie to us just to win an election, can you? This is the most transparent administration ever, remember?

It's like that gambling scene in Casablanca.

What there is gambling in here???


What they painted something in a positive light two weeks before the election???


Come on boys. His supporters are happy as hell they spun. Limited the damage. Obama won! You think his supporters care??????? Honestly????? The only people who are moved by this are people who didn't vote for him. I want to see a guy who voted for Obama that thinks this is a story of any significance. I want winners. I want stuff that is spun so my side wins. The ends justify the means. I want to win. You Better come with a hell of a lot more than a Benghazi spin story. That's why I think the right is desperate. They need to bloody Hillary. This does that.

But in the end.... A whole heap of nuttin

(05-01-2014 08:28 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Let's say it went down Exactly as you think. What difference does it make? Honestly. If they came out the very next day and said it was Al quadea and they put a 12 inch boner in our ass. What difference would it have made.

Quite possibly a different outcome for the 2012 elections. I don't know that it would, you don't know that it wouldn't, none of us will ever know. But Obama's team obviously thought there was enough risk to justify peddling a blatant lie. And his "GM alive and bin Laden dead" campaign mantra packs a lot less punch once it is clear that bin Laden is not al-Qaeda.

(05-01-2014 08:36 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  It's like that gambling scene in Casablanca.

What there is gambling in here???


What they painted something in a positive light two weeks before the election???


Come on boys. His supporters are happy as hell they spun. Limited the damage. Obama won! You think his supporters care??????? Honestly????? The only people who are moved by this are people who didn't vote for him. I want to see a guy who voted for Obama that thinks this is a story of any significance. I want winners. I want stuff that is spun so my side wins. The ends justify the means. I want to win. You Better come with a hell of a lot more than a Benghazi spin story. That's why I think the right is desperate. They need to bloody Hillary. This does that.

So what you're saying is that liberals will vote for their guy even if he is a liar who abandoned his people and let them die without even trying to save them? You're not making your side look good here.

Owl

I have no idea the internal poll numbers but Nate Silver had it as a landslide a month out. Romney Never was over 200 electoral votes. You are being dishonest with yourself if you think Romney ever had a chance. Cold fish

Steve you just contradicted yourself in two posts. We couldn't save the gour. That's a fact. Now if they spun it after the fact. Which you will never never ever prove. To his supporters that's not a big deal. This only resonates with his opponents. They will find raise off of it. They will Bloody hillary.

I'm on my iPhone. Sorry for the typos.

332-206

No it wasn't close and no this story even if what you think is 100 percent true does not change that. Romney was done after the 47 percent mantra.

That's part of the right narrative too. You're being spun if you think this Benghazi spin changes the election. It doesn't. Read Nate Silver from back then. He was dead nuts on through the whole thing.

(05-01-2014 08:38 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  But in the end.... A whole heap of nuttin

To who, try asking that of the families of the dead. It matters... and the fact you cannot admit it means you are dishonest and no better than the Zero's who has brought us here.

How does it change one thing for the families??????

Does it bring them back? And it says more about a side trying to make the deaths of four Heros political. That's all this theatre is.

The facts don't fit the narrative either because if they wanted to keep that bin laden dead gm alive they wouldn't have come out with a different story three days later. They would have kept it under wraps til after the elections.

Mr birther fast and furious Soaf. You've fallen for this type of shyt for 6 years. Look in the mirror.

(05-01-2014 08:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Owl

I have no idea the internal poll numbers but Nate Silver had it as a landslide a month out. Romney Never was over 200 electoral votes. You are being dishonest with yourself if you think Romney ever had a chance. Cold fish

But those numbers are with Benghazi not blowing up in Obama's face. How much would things have changed if they had? You don't know, I don't know, and Silver doesn't know.

I happen to think Obama would probably still have won. But I don't know that.

(05-01-2014 09:12 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  How does it change one thing for the families??????

The truth, something you and your cohorts are unconcerned about.

(05-01-2014 09:14 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Does it bring them back? And it says more about a side trying to make the deaths of four Heros political. That's all this theatre is.

this "theater" is about preventing the next four political murders by exposing those that were responsible for the last four.

it's about preventing the next four widows and orphans, and there is only one way to do it; expose the hateful, morally empty, cretinous bastards that sacrificed those four brave Americans on the alter of Barack Obama's naked political ambition.