Texas Christian is next at #37.

The TCU Daily Skiff, although by the looks of their website it looks like it publishes once a week, or four times per week (Tuesday - Friday).

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Who's No. 37? This school's student newspaper has a nautical reference in its title and publishes twice a week.

BG is next at #36.

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Who's No. 36? This team's coach has lost only one conference game in his head-coaching career.

Dino Babers coaching record
Eastern Illinois
2012: 7–5 (6–1)
2013: 12–2 (8–0)

2014 Preseason MAC Rankings
#36 BGSU
#39 NIU

#53 Toledo
#57 Ball State

#71 Ohio
#79 New York
#85 CentMich
#94 Akron
#107 Kent State
#117 WMU
#122 Miami
#126 EMU
#128 Massachusetts

2 MAC programs starting the season in the top 40, not bad considering that's the same number from the MWC

Michigan is next at #35.

Michigan President Mark Schlissel was born in Brooklyn, NY.

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Who's No. 35? This university's president was born in Brooklyn.

Brigham Young is next at #34.

Bronco Mendenhall is the only head football coach to never have a losing season at Brigham Young University.

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Who's No. 34? This team's coach is the only one in program history to have never had a losing season.

I THINK that Arizona is next at #33.

Arizona, North Carolina, and Texas A&M all fit the clue but Rivals specifically lists a "Top 20" for AZ, while listing a "Top 30" for NC and a "Top 100" for TX.

EDIT: Texas A&M is #33.

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Who's No. 33? This team inked five of its home state's 20 best players in February's recruiting class, according to Rivals.com.

I THINK that Virginia Tech is next at #32.

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Who's No. 32? This team went 2-2 last fall when its leading rusher earned more than 15 carries.

RB Trey Edmunds led the Hokies in rushing last season with 675 yards.

VT in games that Trey Edmunds had more than 15 carries
L 10-35: 20 Att, 132yds
W 15-10: 21 Att, 42yds
W 29-21: 22 Att, 110yds
L 24-27: 16 Att, 61yds

I THINK that Mississippi is next at #31.

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Who's No. 31? The first entry in Merriam-Webster's definition of this team's coach's last name spans seven words.

Mississippi head coach Hugh Freeze.

Freeze - intransitive verb:
1 a : to become congealed into ice by cold

Updating for you (are you on vacation or something?)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...y/8819991/

(04-29-2014 12:24 PM)TARDledo Wrote:  
THE COUNTDOWN

No. 23: Washington (Pac-12)
No. 24: Duke (ACC)
No. 25: Boise State (MWC)
No. 26: Arizona (Pac-12)
No. 27: North Carolina (ACC)
No. 28: Texas Tech (Big 12)
No. 29: Louisville (ACC)
No. 30: Central Florida (AAC)
No. 31: Mississippi (SEC)
No. 32: Virginia Tech (ACC)
No. 33: Texas A&M (SEC)
No. 34: Brigham Young (Independent)
No. 35: Michigan (Big Ten)
No. 36: BGSU (MAC)
No. 37: Texas Christian (Big 12)
No. 38: Houston (AAC)
No. 39: NIU (MAC)
No. 40: Louisiana-Lafayette (Sun Belt)
No. 41: Mississippi State (SEC)
No. 42: Northwestern (Big Ten)
No. 43: Missouri (SEC)
No. 44: Cincinnati (AAC)
No. 45: Texas (Big 12)
No. 46: Utah State (MWC)
No. 47: Arizona State (Pac-12)
No. 48: Navy (Independent to AAC in '15)
No. 49: Miami-FL (ACC)
No. 50: Oklahoma State (Big 12)
No. 51: Fresno State (MWC)
No. 52: Oregon State (Pac-12)
No. 53: Toledo (MAC)
No. 54: East Carolina (AAC)
No. 55: Georgia Tech (ACC)
No. 56: Penn State (Big Ten)
No. 57: Ball State (MAC)
No. 58: San Diego State (MWC)
No. 59: Pittsburgh (ACC)
No. 60: UT-San Antonio (CUSA)
No. 61: Washington State (Pac-12)
No. 62: Rice (CUSA)
No. 63: Arkansas State (Sun Belt)
No. 64: Maryland (Big Ten)
No. 65: North Texas (CUSA)
No. 66: Utah (Pac-12)
No. 67: Minnesota (Big Ten)
No. 68: Tennessee (SEC)
No. 69: Indiana (Big Ten)
No. 70: Middle Tennessee State (CUSA)
No. 71: Ohio (MAC)
No. 72: South Alabama (Sun Belt)
No. 73: Colorado State (MWC)
No. 74: Vanderbilt (SEC)
No. 75: Syracuse (ACC)
No. 76: San Jose State (MWC)
No. 77: Troy (Sun Belt)
No. 78: West Virginia (Big 12)
No. 79: NEW YORK (MAC)
No. 80: Louisiana Tech (CUSA)
No. 81: Boston College (ACC)
No. 82: Nevada (MWC)
No. 83: Tulsa (AAC)
No. 84: Illinois (Big Ten)
No. 85: Central Michigan (MAC)
No. 86: Temple (AAC)
No. 87: Louisiana-Monroe (Sun Belt)
No. 88: NC State (ACC)
No. 89: Arkansas (SEC)
No. 90: Western Kentucky (CUSA)
No. 91: Texas State (Sun Belt)
No. 92: South Florida (AAC)
No. 93: Connecticut (AAC)
No. 94: Akron (MAC)
No. 95: Virginia (ACC)
No. 96: West Tennessee State (AAC)
No. 97: Florida Atlantic (CUSA)
No. 98: Rutgers (Big Ten)
No. 99: Iowa State (Big 12)
No. 100: Southern Methodist (AAC)
No. 101: Colorado (Pac-12)
No. 102: Air Force (MWC)
No. 103: Wyoming (MWC)
No. 104: Kentucky (SEC)
No. 105: Wake Forest (ACC)
No. 106: Old Dominion (CUSA)
No. 107: Kent State (MAC)
No. 108: Purdue (Big Ten)
No. 109: Tulane (AAC)
No. 110: New Mexico (MWC)
No. 111: UNLV (MWC)
No. 112: Kansas (Big 12)
No. 113: Southern Mississippi (CUSA)
No. 114: UT-El Paso (CUSA)
No. 115: New Mexico State (Sun Belt)
No. 116: California (Pac-12)
No. 117: Western Michigan (MAC)
No. 118: Army (Independent)
No. 119: Appalachian State (Sun Belt)
No. 120: Alabama-Birmingham (CUSA)
No. 121: Idaho (Sun Belt)
No. 122: Miami (MAC)
No. 123: Hawaii (MWC)
No. 124: Georgia Southern (Sun Belt)
No. 125: Georgia State (Sun Belt)
No. 126: EMU (MAC)
No. 127: Florida International (CUSA)
No. 128: Massachusetts (MAC to Sun Belt in '15 or '16/Independent in '16)

***FUTURE FBS***
No. 129: UNC-Charlotte (FCS-Independent to CUSA in '15)

(08-14-2014 10:08 AM)nert Wrote:  Updating for you (are you on vacation or something?)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nca...y/8819991/

(04-29-2014 12:24 PM)TARDledo Wrote:  
THE COUNTDOWN
No. 19: Iowa (Big Ten)
No. 20: Marshall (CUSA)
No. 21: Wisconsin (Big Ten)
No. 22: Florida (SEC)
No. 23: Washington (Pac-12)
No. 24: Duke (ACC)
No. 25: Boise State (MWC)
No. 26: Arizona (Pac-12)
No. 27: North Carolina (ACC)
No. 28: Texas Tech (Big 12)
No. 29: Louisville (ACC)
No. 30: Central Florida (AAC)
No. 31: Mississippi (SEC)
No. 32: Virginia Tech (ACC)
No. 33: Texas A&M (SEC)
No. 34: Brigham Young (Independent)
No. 35: Michigan (Big Ten)
No. 36: BGSU (MAC)
No. 37: Texas Christian (Big 12)
No. 38: Houston (AAC)
No. 39: NIU (MAC)
No. 40: Louisiana-Lafayette (Sun Belt)
No. 41: Mississippi State (SEC)
No. 42: Northwestern (Big Ten)
No. 43: Missouri (SEC)
No. 44: Cincinnati (AAC)
No. 45: Texas (Big 12)
No. 46: Utah State (MWC)
No. 47: Arizona State (Pac-12)
No. 48: Navy (Independent to AAC in '15)
No. 49: Miami-FL (ACC)
No. 50: Oklahoma State (Big 12)
No. 51: Fresno State (MWC)
No. 52: Oregon State (Pac-12)
No. 53: Toledo (MAC)
No. 54: East Carolina (AAC)
No. 55: Georgia Tech (ACC)
No. 56: Penn State (Big Ten)
No. 57: Ball State (MAC)
No. 58: San Diego State (MWC)
No. 59: Pittsburgh (ACC)
No. 60: UT-San Antonio (CUSA)
No. 61: Washington State (Pac-12)
No. 62: Rice (CUSA)
No. 63: Arkansas State (Sun Belt)
No. 64: Maryland (Big Ten)
No. 65: North Texas (CUSA)
No. 66: Utah (Pac-12)
No. 67: Minnesota (Big Ten)
No. 68: Tennessee (SEC)
No. 69: Indiana (Big Ten)
No. 70: Middle Tennessee State (CUSA)
No. 71: Ohio (MAC)
No. 72: South Alabama (Sun Belt)
No. 73: Colorado State (MWC)
No. 74: Vanderbilt (SEC)
No. 75: Syracuse (ACC)
No. 76: San Jose State (MWC)
No. 77: Troy (Sun Belt)
No. 78: West Virginia (Big 12)
No. 79: NEW YORK (MAC)
No. 80: Louisiana Tech (CUSA)
No. 81: Boston College (ACC)
No. 82: Nevada (MWC)
No. 83: Tulsa (AAC)
No. 84: Illinois (Big Ten)
No. 85: Central Michigan (MAC)
No. 86: Temple (AAC)
No. 87: Louisiana-Monroe (Sun Belt)
No. 88: NC State (ACC)
No. 89: Arkansas (SEC)
No. 90: Western Kentucky (CUSA)
No. 91: Texas State (Sun Belt)
No. 92: South Florida (AAC)
No. 93: Connecticut (AAC)
No. 94: Akron (MAC)
No. 95: Virginia (ACC)
No. 96: West Tennessee State (AAC)
No. 97: Florida Atlantic (CUSA)
No. 98: Rutgers (Big Ten)
No. 99: Iowa State (Big 12)
No. 100: Southern Methodist (AAC)
No. 101: Colorado (Pac-12)
No. 102: Air Force (MWC)
No. 103: Wyoming (MWC)
No. 104: Kentucky (SEC)
No. 105: Wake Forest (ACC)
No. 106: Old Dominion (CUSA)
No. 107: Kent State (MAC)
No. 108: Purdue (Big Ten)
No. 109: Tulane (AAC)
No. 110: New Mexico (MWC)
No. 111: UNLV (MWC)
No. 112: Kansas (Big 12)
No. 113: Southern Mississippi (CUSA)
No. 114: UT-El Paso (CUSA)
No. 115: New Mexico State (Sun Belt)
No. 116: California (Pac-12)
No. 117: Western Michigan (MAC)
No. 118: Army (Independent)
No. 119: Appalachian State (Sun Belt)
No. 120: Alabama-Birmingham (CUSA)
No. 121: Idaho (Sun Belt)
No. 122: Miami (MAC)
No. 123: Hawaii (MWC)
No. 124: Georgia Southern (Sun Belt)
No. 125: Georgia State (Sun Belt)
No. 126: EMU (MAC)
No. 127: Florida International (CUSA)
No. 128: Massachusetts (MAC to Sun Belt in '15 or '16/Independent in '16)

***FUTURE FBS***
No. 129: UNC-Charlotte (FCS-Independent to CUSA in '15)

Marshall at 20 and UF at 21 make this guy's judgment 100% suspect.

Marshall may indeed have a quality team but playing the weak schedule they have and in a conference where the next highest ranked program in #60 they don't have a chance to show how good they might be.

(08-17-2014 11:17 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  Marshall at 20 and UF at 21 make this guy's judgment 100% suspect.

Texas Tech at 28? Yeah 100% suspect for sure.

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19 Non Entitled 5 teams are in the top 64 which is 30% of the total!

Here are the Non Entitled 10 top teams by ranking
Marshall 20
Boise State 25
UCF 30
BYU 34
BGSU 36
Houston 38
NIU 39
LaLafayette 40
UT ST 46
Navy 48

Updating again

No. 10: Oklahoma (Big 12)
No. 11: Ohio State (Big Ten)
No. 12: LSU (SEC)
No. 13: USC (Pac-12)
No. 14: Georgia (SEC)
No. 15: Clemson (ACC)
No. 16: Nebraska (Big Ten)
No. 17: Kansas State (Big 12)
No. 18: Notre Dame (ACC)
No. 19: Iowa (Big Ten)
No. 20: Marshall (CUSA)
No. 21: Wisconsin (Big Ten)
No. 22: Florida (SEC)
No. 23: Washington (Pac-12)
No. 24: Duke (ACC)
No. 25: Boise State (MWC)
No. 26: Arizona (Pac-12)
No. 27: North Carolina (ACC)
No. 28: Texas Tech (Big 12)
No. 29: Louisville (ACC)
No. 30: Central Florida (AAC)
No. 31: Mississippi (SEC)
No. 32: Virginia Tech (ACC)
No. 33: Texas A&M (SEC)
No. 34: Brigham Young (Independent)
No. 35: Michigan (Big Ten)
No. 36: BGSU (MAC)
No. 37: Texas Christian (Big 12)
No. 38: Houston (AAC)
No. 39: NIU (MAC)
No. 40: Louisiana-Lafayette (Sun Belt)
No. 41: Mississippi State (SEC)
No. 42: Northwestern (Big Ten)
No. 43: Missouri (SEC)
No. 44: Cincinnati (AAC)
No. 45: Texas (Big 12)
No. 46: Utah State (MWC)
No. 47: Arizona State (Pac-12)
No. 48: Navy (Independent to AAC in '15)
No. 49: Miami-FL (ACC)
No. 50: Oklahoma State (Big 12)
No. 51: Fresno State (MWC)
No. 52: Oregon State (Pac-12)
No. 53: Toledo (MAC)
No. 54: East Carolina (AAC)
No. 55: Georgia Tech (ACC)
No. 56: Penn State (Big Ten)
No. 57: Ball State (MAC)
No. 58: San Diego State (MWC)
No. 59: Pittsburgh (ACC)
No. 60: UT-San Antonio (CUSA)
No. 61: Washington State (Pac-12)
No. 62: Rice (CUSA)
No. 63: Arkansas State (Sun Belt)
No. 64: Maryland (Big Ten)
No. 65: North Texas (CUSA)
No. 66: Utah (Pac-12)
No. 67: Minnesota (Big Ten)
No. 68: Tennessee (SEC)
No. 69: Indiana (Big Ten)
No. 70: Middle Tennessee State (CUSA)
No. 71: Ohio (MAC)
No. 72: South Alabama (Sun Belt)
No. 73: Colorado State (MWC)
No. 74: Vanderbilt (SEC)
No. 75: Syracuse (ACC)
No. 76: San Jose State (MWC)
No. 77: Troy (Sun Belt)
No. 78: West Virginia (Big 12)
No. 79: NEW YORK (MAC)
No. 80: Louisiana Tech (CUSA)
No. 81: Boston College (ACC)
No. 82: Nevada (MWC)
No. 83: Tulsa (AAC)
No. 84: Illinois (Big Ten)
No. 85: Central Michigan (MAC)
No. 86: Temple (AAC)
No. 87: Louisiana-Monroe (Sun Belt)
No. 88: NC State (ACC)
No. 89: Arkansas (SEC)
No. 90: Western Kentucky (CUSA)
No. 91: Texas State (Sun Belt)
No. 92: South Florida (AAC)
No. 93: Connecticut (AAC)
No. 94: Akron (MAC)
No. 95: Virginia (ACC)
No. 96: West Tennessee State (AAC)
No. 97: Florida Atlantic (CUSA)
No. 98: Rutgers (Big Ten)
No. 99: Iowa State (Big 12)
No. 100: Southern Methodist (AAC)
No. 101: Colorado (Pac-12)
No. 102: Air Force (MWC)
No. 103: Wyoming (MWC)
No. 104: Kentucky (SEC)
No. 105: Wake Forest (ACC)
No. 106: Old Dominion (CUSA)
No. 107: Kent State (MAC)
No. 108: Purdue (Big Ten)
No. 109: Tulane (AAC)
No. 110: New Mexico (MWC)
No. 111: UNLV (MWC)
No. 112: Kansas (Big 12)
No. 113: Southern Mississippi (CUSA)
No. 114: UT-El Paso (CUSA)
No. 115: New Mexico State (Sun Belt)
No. 116: California (Pac-12)
No. 117: Western Michigan (MAC)
No. 118: Army (Independent)
No. 119: Appalachian State (Sun Belt)
No. 120: Alabama-Birmingham (CUSA)
No. 121: Idaho (Sun Belt)
No. 122: Miami (MAC)
No. 123: Hawaii (MWC)
No. 124: Georgia Southern (Sun Belt)
No. 125: Georgia State (Sun Belt)
No. 126: EMU (MAC)
No. 127: Florida International (CUSA)
No. 128: Massachusetts (MAC to Sun Belt in '15 or '16/Independent in '16)

***FUTURE FBS***
No. 129: UNC-Charlotte (FCS-Independent to CUSA in '15)

(08-19-2014 02:27 PM)Policiious Wrote:  19 Non Entitled 5 teams are in the top 64 which is 30% of the total!

Here are the Non Entitled 10 top teams by ranking
Marshall 20
Boise State 25
UCF 30
BYU 34
BGSU 36
Houston 38
NIU 39
LaLafayette 40
UT ST 46
Navy 48

You missed Cincinnati at 44. Does anyone know if TARDledo is okay?

I want to see # 1 - 4.

If someone knows who is #1 do not post on social media, go to Vegas, bet the family farm, collect and retire rich.

P.S. This past March I bet on Oregon in Vegas to win the NC.

Last Labor Day week, I went and bet on FSU (after seeing their great performance over Pitt) and got I think it was 20:1 odds (FSU wasn't even the favorite in the ACC, believe it was Clemson). I bet against 'Bama.

This March I bet against FSU and went with Oregon at 8:1.

BTW, think I saw somewhere (Bovada.com?) that BG is 6:5 to win the MAC. That's pretty short odds especially as they would need to beat say NIU or UT in the MACC. Almost like saying they'll cake walk in the East and then it turns out to be a one-game season (MACC).

(08-23-2014 11:21 PM)banker Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 02:27 PM)Policiious Wrote:  19 Non Entitled 5 teams are in the top 64 which is 30% of the total!

Here are the Non Entitled 10 top teams by ranking
Marshall 20
Boise State 25
UCF 30
BYU 34
BGSU 36
Houston 38
NIU 39
LaLafayette 40
UT ST 46
Navy 48

You missed Cincinnati at 44. Does anyone know if TARDledo is okay?

Oops thanks for the catch, that's 11 out of the top 48, pretty strong showing from the leagues with far fewer resources

UPDATE
No. 1: Florida State (ACC)
No. 2: Alabama (SEC)
No. 3: Oregon (Pac-12)
No. 4: South Carolina (SEC)
No. 5: UCLA (Pac-12)
No. 6: Michigan State (Big Ten)
No. 7: Stanford (Pac-12)
No. 8: Baylor (Big 12)
No. 9: Auburn (SEC)
No. 10: Oklahoma (Big 12)
No. 11: Ohio State (Big Ten)
No. 12: LSU (SEC)
No. 13: USC (Pac-12)
No. 14: Georgia (SEC)
No. 15: Clemson (ACC)
No. 16: Nebraska (Big Ten)
No. 17: Kansas State (Big 12)
No. 18: Notre Dame (ACC)
No. 19: Iowa (Big Ten)
No. 20: Marshall (CUSA)
No. 21: Wisconsin (Big Ten)
No. 22: Florida (SEC)
No. 23: Washington (Pac-12)
No. 24: Duke (ACC)
No. 25: Boise State (MWC)
No. 26: Arizona (Pac-12)
No. 27: North Carolina (ACC)
No. 28: Texas Tech (Big 12)
No. 29: Louisville (ACC)
No. 30: Central Florida (AAC)
No. 31: Mississippi (SEC)
No. 32: Virginia Tech (ACC)
No. 33: Texas A&M (SEC)
No. 34: Brigham Young (Independent)
No. 35: Michigan (Big Ten)
No. 36: BGSU (MAC)
No. 37: Texas Christian (Big 12)
No. 38: Houston (AAC)
No. 39: NIU (MAC)
No. 40: Louisiana-Lafayette (Sun Belt)
No. 41: Mississippi State (SEC)
No. 42: Northwestern (Big Ten)
No. 43: Missouri (SEC)
No. 44: Cincinnati (AAC)
No. 45: Texas (Big 12)
No. 46: Utah State (MWC)
No. 47: Arizona State (Pac-12)
No. 48: Navy (Independent to AAC in '15)
No. 49: Miami-FL (ACC)
No. 50: Oklahoma State (Big 12)
No. 51: Fresno State (MWC)
No. 52: Oregon State (Pac-12)
No. 53: Toledo (MAC)
No. 54: East Carolina (AAC)
No. 55: Georgia Tech (ACC)
No. 56: Penn State (Big Ten)
No. 57: Ball State (MAC)
No. 58: San Diego State (MWC)
No. 59: Pittsburgh (ACC)
No. 60: UT-San Antonio (CUSA)
No. 61: Washington State (Pac-12)
No. 62: Rice (CUSA)
No. 63: Arkansas State (Sun Belt)
No. 64: Maryland (Big Ten)
No. 65: North Texas (CUSA)
No. 66: Utah (Pac-12)
No. 67: Minnesota (Big Ten)
No. 68: Tennessee (SEC)
No. 69: Indiana (Big Ten)
No. 70: Middle Tennessee State (CUSA)
No. 71: Ohio (MAC)
No. 72: South Alabama (Sun Belt)
No. 73: Colorado State (MWC)
No. 74: Vanderbilt (SEC)
No. 75: Syracuse (ACC)
No. 76: San Jose State (MWC)
No. 77: Troy (Sun Belt)
No. 78: West Virginia (Big 12)
No. 79: NEW YORK (MAC)
No. 80: Louisiana Tech (CUSA)
No. 81: Boston College (ACC)
No. 82: Nevada (MWC)
No. 83: Tulsa (AAC)
No. 84: Illinois (Big Ten)
No. 85: Central Michigan (MAC)
No. 86: Temple (AAC)
No. 87: Louisiana-Monroe (Sun Belt)
No. 88: NC State (ACC)
No. 89: Arkansas (SEC)
No. 90: Western Kentucky (CUSA)
No. 91: Texas State (Sun Belt)
No. 92: South Florida (AAC)
No. 93: Connecticut (AAC)
No. 94: Akron (MAC)
No. 95: Virginia (ACC)
No. 96: West Tennessee State (AAC)
No. 97: Florida Atlantic (CUSA)
No. 98: Rutgers (Big Ten)
No. 99: Iowa State (Big 12)
No. 100: Southern Methodist (AAC)
No. 101: Colorado (Pac-12)
No. 102: Air Force (MWC)
No. 103: Wyoming (MWC)
No. 104: Kentucky (SEC)
No. 105: Wake Forest (ACC)
No. 106: Old Dominion (CUSA)
No. 107: Kent State (MAC)
No. 108: Purdue (Big Ten)
No. 109: Tulane (AAC)
No. 110: New Mexico (MWC)
No. 111: UNLV (MWC)
No. 112: Kansas (Big 12)
No. 113: Southern Mississippi (CUSA)
No. 114: UT-El Paso (CUSA)
No. 115: New Mexico State (Sun Belt)
No. 116: California (Pac-12)
No. 117: Western Michigan (MAC)
No. 118: Army (Independent)
No. 119: Appalachian State (Sun Belt)
No. 120: Alabama-Birmingham (CUSA)
No. 121: Idaho (Sun Belt)
No. 122: Miami (MAC)
No. 123: Hawaii (MWC)
No. 124: Georgia Southern (Sun Belt)
No. 125: Georgia State (Sun Belt)
No. 126: EMU (MAC)
No. 127: Florida International (CUSA)
No. 128: Massachusetts (MAC to Sun Belt in '15 or '16/Independent in '16)

***FUTURE FBS***
No. 129: UNC-Charlotte (FCS-Independent to CUSA in '15)