(04-28-2014 03:05 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  The girlfriend who outed this guy has put herself at considerable risk.

#golddigger

(04-28-2014 03:05 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  The girlfriend who outed this guy has put herself at considerable risk.

Attractive, light skin folks have few problems.

Hell, if I could play a game every day at my current salary, I'd do it.

(04-28-2014 04:27 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 04:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:05 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  The girlfriend who outed this guy has put herself at considerable risk.

I would agree, If her name/identity were not already known to the public.

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I only have seen headlines for this story, but what I've seen goes something like this:

Girl invites her friends/colleagues to games. Includes Magic Johnson.
Girl makes public Clippers' owner's personal (and ostensibly private) opinions.
Current Headline says NBA may force Clippers owner to sell.
Current Headline says Clippers losing sponsors, ergo their value is worth less.
Current Headline says Magic should get shot at Clipper ownership.

That sort of collusion can get you jail time.

Okay, we were obviously talking about two drastically different things.

I thought your "considerable risk" comment was to imply that she might suffer some physical harm as a result of causing -- or appearing to cause -- damage to the Sterling reputation, and/or the Clippers' brand and business.

(04-28-2014 04:10 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:51 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:49 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  Who the heck cares? It's a bunch of overpaid blacks throwing a ball through the hoop because they were too stupid to get a real job.

Next.

Oh come on. If I could be an NBA player and earn millions of dollars for playing sports I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm sure many other around here would as well.

exactly.. get paid millions to play a kid's game? Who wouldn't if they had the ability?

I was a college athlete and quit for an internship because I wanted to contribute to society. Sorry.

There is a difference between "being a college athlete" and "being an NFL/NBA draft prospect"...

(04-29-2014 08:42 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  There is a difference between "being a college athlete" and "being an NFL/NBA draft prospect"...

Yep. I'm also guessing that Jerry was getting zero money (or very little) from the school in terms of scholarship money. If he were getting a full ride he would not have taken an internship and given up his full ride.

(04-29-2014 08:42 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 04:10 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:56 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:51 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:49 PM)Jerry Falwell Wrote:  Who the heck cares? It's a bunch of overpaid blacks throwing a ball through the hoop because they were too stupid to get a real job.

Next.

Oh come on. If I could be an NBA player and earn millions of dollars for playing sports I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm sure many other around here would as well.

exactly.. get paid millions to play a kid's game? Who wouldn't if they had the ability?

I was a college athlete and quit for an internship because I wanted to contribute to society. Sorry.

There is a difference between "being a college athlete" and "being an NFL/NBA draft prospect"...

And making the NBA is even harder than MLB or NFL due to how few roster spots there are.

(04-29-2014 09:10 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 08:42 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  There is a difference between "being a college athlete" and "being an NFL/NBA draft prospect"...

Yep. I'm also guessing that Jerry was getting zero money (or very little) from the school in terms of scholarship money. If he were getting a full ride he would not have taken an internship and given up his full ride.

I know a guy who dropped an NCAA full ride for his internship...

http://www.ubbullrun.com/2013/12/30/5256...nson-story

I'd like more details to that story. I'd say that is certainly not the norm either way.

(04-29-2014 09:32 AM)mlb Wrote:  I'd like more details to that story. I'd say that is certainly not the norm either way.

I was very involved in this and had conversations with the Johnson's. Conrad is the other senior editor over on Bull Run..

Here is a more detailed account -

http://www.ubbullrun.com/2013/7/18/45333...is-the-one

He is an African American with a bit of a liberal bent and I am a white guy who is more libertarian/conservative... We have some great back and forth on the site. This was one where we both agreed.

Basically he missed the post spring meeting to interview for his internship, he then told the coaches he had to miss the summer "voluntary" conditioning to be in Maryland for the job.

So UB yanked his scholarship... Easily the worst move I have seen from the AD in my lifetime. Rudy is now working for the company that he had interned with. He is a very bright kid and was an asset to the program.

I'm sure this will all die down after the punishment from the NBA is lobbied today (assuming it's harsh and not a slap on the wrist). I'd be shocked if it was light - the NBA can't afford to have major groups like CarMax, State Farm and others turning away.

Even if Magic and this woman somehow were colluding together on the blackmail, I doubt it will work out for him. If and when Sterling sells, Magic won't be able to be involved in the new ownership team because of the rumors of collusion. I'm sure there will be some major ownership ties that are minority-based, but not Magic most likely.

What are the Clippers going to do at their game tonight instead of running the CarMax ad. Run PSA's instead?

(04-29-2014 09:55 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  I'm sure this will all die down after the punishment from the NBA is lobbied today (assuming it's harsh and not a slap on the wrist). I'd be shocked if it was light - the NBA can't afford to have major groups like CarMax, State Farm and others turning away.

There is not a lot the NBA can do... They can fine him, they can insist he not attend games, and maybe make his players free agents but thats it...

Quote:Even if Magic and this woman somehow were colluding together on the blackmail, I doubt it will work out for him. If and when Sterling sells, Magic won't be able to be involved in the new ownership team because of the rumors of collusion. I'm sure there will be some major ownership ties that are minority-based, but not Magic most likely.

Its entirely possible that if collusion would prevent Johnson from owning a team you will see a franchise swap. It would not be the first time the Braves/Clippers were sold to a current owner so that a new guy can buy an existing team.

Quote:What are the Clippers going to do at their game tonight instead of running the CarMax ad. Run PSA's instead?

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is watching it on TV does it make a noise?

(04-29-2014 09:10 AM)mlb Wrote:  

(04-29-2014 08:42 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  There is a difference between "being a college athlete" and "being an NFL/NBA draft prospect"...

Yep. I'm also guessing that Jerry was getting zero money (or very little) from the school in terms of scholarship money. If he were getting a full ride he would not have taken an internship and given up his full ride.

Zero money indeed... a walk-on. But that doesn't mean I didn't have the opportunity to become pro.



Anyone else see this article?

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2014/04/2...s-scandal/

(key points quoted here)

Quote:Stiviano was born Maria Vanessa Perez in October 1982 in Los Angeles, but successfully petitioned to change her name to V. Stiviano in 2010. There’s no explanation for what the name means, but her stated reason in the court filing was, “Born from a rape case and having yet been fully accepted because of my race.”

In March, Sterling’s wife, Rochelle, sued Stiviano, claiming she had received more than $2.5 million in lavish gifts from the Clippers owner and they needed to be returned. A big piece of the suit involves a duplex Stiviano purchased in December for nearly $1.8 million with money that Rochelle Sterling claims Stiviano received from her husband. Stiviano’s name appears on the deed, and Rochelle Sterling is asking a judge to transfer the property to her and her husband.

In the filing, Rochelle Sterling accuses Stiviano of engaging “in conduct designed to target, befriend, seduce, and then entice, cajole, borrow from, cheat and/or receive as gifts transfers of wealth from wealthy older men whom she targets for such purpose.

Since then, the pair have been in a relationship and Stiviano has received a Ferrari, two Bentleys and a Range Rover from the Clippers’ owner, the lawsuit alleges. The vehicles are worth more than $500,000 according to the suit.

On Monday, a man who answered the phone at Nehoray’s law office wouldn’t identify himself and said the attorney would no longer comment on the audio or Stiviano’s case. He said the attorney was invoking the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, citing a statement issued by the Clippers accusing Stiviano of embezzlement.

(04-29-2014 09:41 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  Easily the worst move I have seen from the AD in my lifetime. Rudy is now working for the company that he had interned with. He is a very bright kid and was an asset to the program.

Disgusting. I'd imagine that eventually Outside the Lines will get hold of this and hammer UB.

(04-28-2014 04:27 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 04:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:05 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  The girlfriend who outed this guy has put herself at considerable risk.

I would agree, If her name/identity were not already known to the public.

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I only have seen headlines for this story, but what I've seen goes something like this:

Girl invites her friends/colleagues to games. Includes Magic Johnson.
Girl makes public Clippers' owner's personal (and ostensibly private) opinions.
Current Headline says NBA may force Clippers owner to sell.
Current Headline says Clippers losing sponsors, ergo their value is worth less.
Current Headline says Magic should get shot at Clipper ownership.

That sort of collusion can get you jail time.

I see someone else has made this connection. If I am DS...I hire a PI and do some digging into the relationship between this broad and Magic. Something looks fishy to me.

(04-29-2014 11:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 04:27 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 04:24 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-28-2014 03:05 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  The girlfriend who outed this guy has put herself at considerable risk.

I would agree, If her name/identity were not already known to the public.

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

I only have seen headlines for this story, but what I've seen goes something like this:

Girl invites her friends/colleagues to games. Includes Magic Johnson.
Girl makes public Clippers' owner's personal (and ostensibly private) opinions.
Current Headline says NBA may force Clippers owner to sell.
Current Headline says Clippers losing sponsors, ergo their value is worth less.
Current Headline says Magic should get shot at Clipper ownership.

That sort of collusion can get you jail time.

I see someone else has made this connection. If I am DS...I hire a PI and do some digging into the relationship between this broad and Magic. Something looks fishy to me.

Heard as much on the radio yesterday.... something is amuck.